English Amiga Board Amiga Lore


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Misc > MarketPlace

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 24 November 2012, 00:17   #1
Amigan123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 93
Lightbulb Amiga USB Mouse Adapter

Hi all, I am thinking of making and supplying a USB mouse to Amiga DB9 mouse adapter.

The price if I make at least 20 of them should be approx 10 + postage!

Just wondered if there would be any demand for it, and what would be most popular.

A USB or PS/2 version ?
Amigan123 is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
Old 24 November 2012, 08:18   #2
Cymru
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dorathea/AT
Posts: 371
A working version of both would be great

A working version of both would be great as USB mice are quite popular and the devices being sold at twice your price point do not work. PS/2 mice are still available and a lot of people like them -- their interfaces are simpler as well.
Cymru is offline  
Old 24 November 2012, 08:30   #3
Arnie
R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16

Arnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Leicester/UK
Age: 59
Posts: 3,861
USB 4 me, as long as it can use true USB mice.
Arnie is offline  
Old 24 November 2012, 15:11   #4
Amigan123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 93
Thanks for the feedback, I am currently testing a prototype, I think it should work with most PC USB mice but will have to test a few brands of mice to make sure its all good.

I will post more details when I have done some testing.
Amigan123 is offline  
Old 24 November 2012, 15:19   #5
Bamiga2002
BlizzardPPC'less

Bamiga2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Finland
Age: 40
Posts: 3,211
Send a message via MSN to Bamiga2002
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amigan123 View Post
Just wondered if there would be any demand for it, and what would be most popular.

A USB or PS/2 version ?
USB! Demand? Gimme one now!
Bamiga2002 is offline  
Old 24 November 2012, 15:21   #6
Arnie
R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16

Arnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Leicester/UK
Age: 59
Posts: 3,861
OK, put me down for 2

EDIT: Just a thought, could you make one with a fly lead like the Amiga 1200 1D4 board?

Last edited by Arnie; 14 February 2013 at 22:44.
Arnie is offline  
Old 02 December 2012, 22:24   #7
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 414
I'm interested in a USB one. Will these come with a case?
Nostromo is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 07:21   #8
Amigan123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 93
Prototype Adapter

Thanks for the replies, and comments

Firstly it will NOT work with ALL usb mice as there are two types of usb mice made for PC's some with PS2 support, these usually come supplied with a USB to PS2 adapter it will work with these as they support the PS/2 protocol.

eg
http://www.ebuyer.com/129828-logitec...FanItAodE30AGg

Other usb mice actually need a real USB controller and drivers to work, so will not work with my adapter.

Any PS2 Mouse will work, I may make a dual ps2/usb version but will have to work out the costs.

Most modern wireless USB's will probably not work as these require a real usb port.

My prototype is working on my Amiga

I tested a Genius PS/2 Ball Mouse made in the 90's and also a USB Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse and they work fine.

The adapter is made to a strict budget so there is no fancy case, this does means that it will fit the Amiga A600 Mouse
port that has no clearance on the left side to allow for a hooded connector.

I will be covered in heat shrink and look neat though, I promise it wont look like a flux capacitor is connected to your Amiga

Last edited by Amigan123; 03 December 2012 at 07:33.
Amigan123 is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 08:31   #9
johnim
Amibay Mod/Staff

johnim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: birmingham uk
Age: 41
Posts: 1,024
hi does your adapter work with the scroll wheel
johnim is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 09:41   #10
cosmicfrog
The 1 who ribbits
cosmicfrog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: leek, Staffs, UK
Age: 50
Posts: 3,555
Send a message via MSN to cosmicfrog
If I can afford one I`ll have one, got support staffordshire

also wot john said scrolly wheel is a must really, the only reason I brought a new mouse was cos of that lovely inervation
cosmicfrog is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 11:55   #11
Methanoid
Retired Quartex Sysop
Methanoid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Roman Verulamium
Age: 51
Posts: 1,607
Hardware pr0n pix please
Methanoid is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 12:53   #12
Retroplay
Lemon Curry ?

Retroplay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denmark
Posts: 2,915
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amigan123 View Post
I promise it wont look like a flux capacitor is connected to your Amiga
A time travelling Amiga.

Retroplay is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 13:31   #13
Amigan123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 93
Lightbulb Photo of Budget Model v1.0 Adapter


At the moment this model is a budget adapter with support
for 2 button PS/2 compatible USB mice and no scroll wheel.

Basically will allow you to use a more modern PC mouse on an Amiga and will also work with the Amiga 600 port.
Amigan123 is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 14:55   #14
Mrs Beanbag
Glastonbridge Software
Mrs Beanbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Edinburgh/Scotland
Posts: 2,202
neat. count me in.
Mrs Beanbag is offline  
Old 03 December 2012, 23:46   #15
cosmicfrog
The 1 who ribbits
cosmicfrog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: leek, Staffs, UK
Age: 50
Posts: 3,555
Send a message via MSN to cosmicfrog
budget adapter \o/ heheh thats me, actual went though my mouse collection today and came across some pc serial mice, now I much rather see a scroll wheel implemented but was thinking it cant be that hard to use a pc serial mouse, know there are drivers to connect em to the serial port but thats no fun and next to useless
cosmicfrog is offline  
Old 08 December 2012, 11:55   #16
Amigan123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 93
Lightbulb New Design in Progress

After trying out the prototype, I fear the trailing cable design will be a weak link and may cause issues during usage.

My new design will have the usb socket on the board and will all be encapsulated in epoxy to make it more robust.

Due to the Epoxy and larger circuit board the price might end up being approx 12 + postage, would this be acceptable?

I am currently waiting on some supplies to test out.

I decided to see if any modern mice still support the PS/2 protocol over usb, so purchased the cheapest mouse I could find in my local Home Bargains store a cheap chinese made optical usb mouse for 1.99

To my surprise it did work fine, so maybe some other cheap mice will work as it seem some do support PS/2!

I suspect most modern wireless mice wont and they use USB protocol with no PS/2 fallback.

Again its 2 button only and no scroll support, but hopefully will be useful for
people who need an easy replacement option for there Amiga, instead of trying to source an original, also the optical ones are a lot smoother than the old ball type.

The adpter also supports Amiga boot menu by "holding down both mouse buttons on reset"

Last edited by Amigan123; 08 December 2012 at 12:11.
Amigan123 is offline  
Old 08 December 2012, 13:08   #17
johnim
Amibay Mod/Staff

johnim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: birmingham uk
Age: 41
Posts: 1,024
that will be great mate
johnim is offline  
Old 09 December 2012, 19:03   #18
hooverphonique
ex. demoscener "Bigmama"
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Fyn / Denmark
Posts: 694
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnim View Post
hi does your adapter work with the scroll wheel
scroll wheel won't work for adapters that connect to the amiga mouse port..
hooverphonique is offline  
Old 10 December 2012, 09:22   #19
Methanoid
Retired Quartex Sysop
Methanoid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Roman Verulamium
Age: 51
Posts: 1,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amigan123 View Post
After trying out the prototype, I fear the trailing cable design will be a weak link and may cause issues during usage.

My new design will have the usb socket on the board and will all be encapsulated in epoxy to make it more robust.

Due to the Epoxy and larger circuit board the price might end up being approx 12 + postage, would this be acceptable?
Price sounds fine. I suspect this will look a lot like the boards sold by the Polish guy and resold by the Irish eBayer, shown below

Methanoid is offline  
Old 10 December 2012, 10:01   #20
robinsonb5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Norfolk, UK
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by hooverphonique View Post
scroll wheel won't work for adapters that connect to the amiga mouse port..
It can be done - it just requires some multiplexing trickery in the C firmware and a driver on the Amiga.
robinsonb5 is online now  
AdSense AdSense  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
USB Mouse Adapter not working on A1200 clebin support.Hardware 5 29 May 2012 12:31
PS2/usb mouse adapter Jerry support.Hardware 9 08 May 2012 10:25
need drivers for usb mouse adapter... cdskagen support.Hardware 16 25 August 2010 00:57
Amiga Adapter - Connect Ps2 / Usb Mouse Brosol MarketPlace 0 16 February 2010 07:06
new hardware suggestion: USB to serial mouse adapter gizmomelb support.Hardware 15 22 December 2006 01:24

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 13:35.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Page generated in 0.33821 seconds with 12 queries