SPS Question

Kyon · 16 February 2009, 14:41

SPS dumped acorn sensible soccer or it is possible ?

IFW · 16 February 2009, 16:26

What do you mean exactly?

If you mean whether it is possible to dump it: yes, in fact we have a dump the 1992-3 SE version, unfortunately the second disk is modified though.

As whether an ipf will be available: surely yes, once an unmodified disk will be submitted.

Kyon · 16 February 2009, 23:38

But i said not amiga version . i said acorn archimedes version ipfs

Interceptor · 17 February 2009, 12:01

let me just clarify this: yes its possible to dump archimedes disks.

as IFW said, the acorn achimiedes version of 92-93 season edition has already been dumped, and the second disk was found to be modified.

no archimedes IPF have been released yet, and when we start doing so this game wont be until we get another dump of it.

IFW · 17 February 2009, 15:30

Hi Kyon,

Indeed I meant the archimedes version

Cheers

Kyon · 17 February 2009, 17:23

Umm would you upload this ipfs for me ?

killergorilla · 17 February 2009, 17:25

There is no IPF...

Kyon · 17 February 2009, 18:18

Maybe he will upload it another site and send link to me via pm

TCD · 17 February 2009, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFW

As whether an ipf will be available: surely yes, once an unmodified disk will be submitted.

Like KG said, there is no IPF that IFW could send you Kyon

The SPS team needs a good second disk first before they make an IPF.

Kyon · 17 February 2009, 18:47

umm why modified disks bad ?

dlfrsilver · 17 February 2009, 18:59

because that's not the way they were sold at first........ Hence a good unmodified disk 2.

Galahad/FLT · 17 February 2009, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyon

umm why modified disks bad ?

SPS will only release a working IPF of a game IF it hasn't been modified in any way. They want to preserve the games as they were intended from the day they were sold.

I think only 1 or 2 exceptions have been made (Crackdown for one as it wasn't mastered correctly in the first place), but I think their feelings are, if they keep making exceptions, then the SPS catalogue will no longer be considered the de facto resource as a games repository.

IFW · 17 February 2009, 19:28

Galahad is right, we want to keep IPFs that way.
As for Crackdown: the mastering error could be corrected luckily as it was a semi-trivial error. You can call that lucky...

Kyon · 17 February 2009, 19:36

I see many many ipfs for amiga swos . they are correctly mastered ?

IFW · 17 February 2009, 22:14

Sure they are, mastering/duplication errors are not too common (but did happen).
So is the archimedes version; the problem is that the disk content itself got modified by whoever was using the disk.

Kyon · 17 February 2009, 22:53

but did happen ? why ?

Interceptor · 17 February 2009, 23:07

most likely the highscores or custom team names were written to the disk by the user, this makes the disk no longer in 'original' condition.

now, you started this by asking if acorn sensible soccer was dumped or was possible, the answer is "YES" its possible and has already been dumped once. but the dump is bad because the disk was modified.

before an 'IPF' is possible, it must be dumped again with another copy.

i can not see how i can explain this better.

Kyon · 17 February 2009, 23:19

i will use modified version because that is better than nothing and if you dumped later
unmodified version i will change it

Interceptor · 17 February 2009, 23:28

1) SPS does not release modified disks.

2) which emulator would you use it on?

Kyon · 18 February 2009, 05:58

I using WinUAE

16 February 2009, 14:41	#1
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16 February 2009, 16:26	#2
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	What do you mean exactly? If you mean whether it is possible to dump it: yes, in fact we have a dump the 1992-3 SE version, unfortunately the second disk is modified though. As whether an ipf will be available: surely yes, once an unmodified disk will be submitted.

16 February 2009, 23:38	#3
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	But i said not amiga version . i said acorn archimedes version ipfs

17 February 2009, 12:01	#4
Interceptor Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 414	let me just clarify this: yes its possible to dump archimedes disks. as IFW said, the acorn achimiedes version of 92-93 season edition has already been dumped, and the second disk was found to be modified. no archimedes IPF have been released yet, and when we start doing so this game wont be until we get another dump of it.

17 February 2009, 15:30	#5
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Hi Kyon, Indeed I meant the archimedes version Cheers

17 February 2009, 17:23	#6
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	Umm would you upload this ipfs for me ?

17 February 2009, 17:25	#7
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	There is no IPF...

17 February 2009, 18:18	#8
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	Maybe he will upload it another site and send link to me via pm

17 February 2009, 18:47	#10
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	umm why modified disks bad ?

17 February 2009, 18:59	#11
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	because that's not the way they were sold at first........ Hence a good unmodified disk 2.

17 February 2009, 19:28	#13
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Galahad is right, we want to keep IPFs that way. As for Crackdown: the mastering error could be corrected luckily as it was a semi-trivial error. You can call that lucky...

17 February 2009, 19:36	#14
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	I see many many ipfs for amiga swos . they are correctly mastered ?

17 February 2009, 22:14	#15
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Sure they are, mastering/duplication errors are not too common (but did happen). So is the archimedes version; the problem is that the disk content itself got modified by whoever was using the disk.

17 February 2009, 22:53	#16
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	but did happen ? why ?

17 February 2009, 23:07	#17
Interceptor Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 414	most likely the highscores or custom team names were written to the disk by the user, this makes the disk no longer in 'original' condition. now, you started this by asking if acorn sensible soccer was dumped or was possible, the answer is "YES" its possible and has already been dumped once. but the dump is bad because the disk was modified. before an 'IPF' is possible, it must be dumped again with another copy. i can not see how i can explain this better.

17 February 2009, 23:19	#18
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	i will use modified version because that is better than nothing and if you dumped later unmodified version i will change it

17 February 2009, 23:28	#19
Interceptor Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 414	1) SPS does not release modified disks. 2) which emulator would you use it on?

18 February 2009, 05:58	#20
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	I using WinUAE

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