28 July 2020, 19:01 | #1 |
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A600+Furia : WB ok, reset loops when opening anything else. Ok with NoFastMem
Recapped A600 + Furia Accelerator
1MB Chip RAM expansion IDE to SD adapter ClassicWB on a 16GB SD I have a problem with the above setup, was previously working ok. Workbench will load ok and I can open various workbench tools, prefs etc. ok. When I try and load a proper program, or WHDload game, or MOD file the machine will reset and then be stuck in a reset loop. It will then not reboot the SD for a few minutes with the power off If I disable fast RAM (NoFastMem) then it will work as expected, but mega slow of course.
So what could be up with it and why does turning the fast RAM off work? |
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29 July 2020, 10:16 | #3 |
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Thanks. I will check this later today.
If that is the case, I wonder why the NoFastMem stops it from crashing. |
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It's an A600 rev 1.5 board
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Was an A600 NTSC version made? I don't think I have ever come across one.
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Fpu on Cache on IDE speedup off Map ROM off And the problem still happens When it resets and gets stuck in a reset loop it won't boot to workbench again for a minute with the power off |
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Try set Cache to off.
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Since your A600 is working just fine without the Furia maybe try to clean the pins of the 68000 CPU with some isoprop. Then re-seat the Furia |
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Try it without the Workench - just to be sure.
1) Turn on the A600 and hold both Mouse buttons until you get the "Early Startup Screen" . 2) Choose the option "boot with no startup-sequence" 3) type into the CLI FuriaTune Cache On ShadowRom AddMem 4) make a assigns like assign Env: ram: that should be enough for testing 5) now try stuff *fingers cross* try native DOS stuff first , like some game that has a native install like Lionheart for example. When that works... try WHDload. and if that all works there is something in youre Workbench Startup-Sequence that causes the FastMem Problems/reboots loops. Maybe a tool/utility or a RomUpdate. (what worbench are you using ?) Anyway, try it without the workbench, just to be sure it. To isolate/find the problem. Greetings, Torti |
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@CDTV1991
My recommendation-> Select the jumper RAMWAIT to the open position, in the botom left corner. Good luck... |
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Thanks for the advice so far, appreciated. I am using a ClassicWB pack
I tried the no startup sequence method and managed to open Dopus and PPaint ok, but when I try more programs after than it will report an error then reset and get stuck in the reset loop, or just reset. After that I need to turn it off and leave it off for a few minutes or else it will still be stuck in a reset loop. I have also tried the No CPU cache and RAM jumper suggestions. Same problems unfortunately. I have cleaned the CPU and Furia connection too. Quite puzzling |
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Hmmm.
Ok, that´s a tuff one. Please try to disconnect the CF Reader and use Floppies or a Gotek. (or another CF/SD reader and card if you have one) You see, The Furia is quiet stubborn with some Reader/Card combinations so you have to see if this is the cause of the problem. I had once a CF CardReader and CF Card that did the same thing to my setup. (as you said, a few things work, then error and endless loops) Thats why i suggest this. Please try the methode above, just to be sure; so you can find the root of the problem more easily. Last edited by Torti-the-Smurf; 31 July 2020 at 21:35. Reason: forgot something |
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Just to rule it out that is something wrong with youre Fast-Ram
(i am pretty sure it has something to do with youre reader/card combi) But, just in case. Use SysTest and run the Memory test. Let it run for a while. |
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Thanks for the ongoing advice
No change to the SD card since it worked last and it ran well for a year before, with light use. I gave up on CF cards with the Furia very soon after I had it. It can boot games from floppies ok Workbench won't boot without the Furia, perhaps this version of ClassicWB needs an 020 or something? It is looking very likely that this is a RAM problem. I can still load programs and games (slowly) with the NoFastMem active. When I start workbench and start opening up various workbench items, it is using up RAM and the more I do the closer to crashing it gets. When I try and open a larger program or game it will crash straight away, then get stuck in the reset loop So its got to be a RAM, but if the Chip RAM is on the main board and on the expansion card (so 2MB total) and the 8MB is on the Furia, where is the problem? Is RAM ever a problem on Furias? I will give the SysTest a try tomorrow. Will transfer it over via WinUAE. |
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Doesn't the Furia have more than 8M, like 9.5M or something? I seem to recall you could enable or disable that extra bit and I think my machine had an issue with it.
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Systest reports am error when testing the 8.0mb fast RAM and the same error on the 1.5mb slow RAM.
So does this suggest that it's a Furia hardware problem or could it be something else? If it is a Furia hardware problem is the likely to be repairable? The CPU part of the Furia seems to be working fine |
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Oh sh.t
Well, at least you know whats the problem now. i´m sorry for you. please get a refund. The Furia is really awesome. I love that little beast. I mean, my Amiga boots in 2 seconds (with PFS) and with PeterK´s Icon Library its so Snappy, that´s crazy. My Dream 16-Bit Amiga |
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If this is a RAM issue on the Furia board, then I have lots of questions to work out what I do next:
If anyone can help with any of these questions then it would be greatly appreciated Thanks Last edited by CDTV1991; 01 August 2020 at 17:40. |
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