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Old 10 February 2011, 22:11   #21
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Extras disk is correct.
However, "Say" would not make sense in WB 2.04 with a 2.04 Extras Disk because you will NOT find either of narrator.device, translator.library or speak-handler there!

Like this old post of alexh states, the speech synthesis stuff got pulled in 2.04 because of legal disputes and disagreement with the company that made it.
Only way out will be to copy the needed "driver" stuff off a 1.3 disk.
No this is all wrong, just checked my WB 2.04 disk - the main disk not extras. It contains:

narrator.device 37.7 22/05/91
speak-handler 37.4 21/02/91
translator.library 37.1 15/01/91

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Here is a little-known fact:
AMOS Professional came with a newer version of narrator.device and translator.library than Workbench 1.3.
(It may have been the build included with WB 2.0 - I've yet to compare them.)

When these updates are used with the original Workbench 1.3 Say utility, the speech quality is considerably better than the original.


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Yep, I just checked this out. Here's what's on the first AMOS Pro disk (AMOS-Professional10_1of6.adf) downloadable from here (6 in a zip):
http://www.back2roots.org/Tools/Dev/ (direct link to download)

In Devs:
narrator.device 65176 ----rw-d 04-Oct-92 18:24:57

In Libs:
translator.library 10592 ----rwed 04-Oct-92 18:25:52
Just checked these and they are not as new as the date stamp suggests.

narrator.device 32.8 30/11/1989
translator.library 33.2 24/06/1986

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No this is all wrong, just checked my WB 2.04 disk - the main disk not extras. It contains:

narrator.device 37.7 22/05/91
speak-handler 37.4 21/02/91
translator.library 37.1 15/01/91
Thanks. So I stand corrected!

Well it's because alexh usually knows his stuff, so if he already had checked for those files, it would be a tad pointless to recheck for them again. That's why I had trusted him on this
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Old 28 February 2011, 13:57   #23
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I have WB 2.05 and it has the Say program on the main WB disk. Twas the main use of the Amiga back when we had it in 1995.
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Old 28 February 2011, 14:04   #24
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I have WB 2.05 and it has the Say program on the main WB disk. Twas the main use of the Amiga back when we had it in 1995.
When you would have been 2 years old
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Old 28 February 2011, 14:27   #25
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Indeed :P
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Old 28 February 2011, 18:41   #26
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BTW, I was wondering if anyone out there has the last CBM version of say that according to the "Workbench Nostalgia" website, was found in the beta version of Workbench 2.1

It would be great if someone could Zone it

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Say was really good back in the early 90s. Every time I hear Stephen Hawking on tv it reminds me of Say.
I noticed same thing today. I think it's not similar but same voice. Can anyone confirm?
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I noticed same thing today. I think it's not similar but same voice. Can anyone confirm?
I can't confirm, but looking at the SoftVoice website I would think it is very likely:

http://www.text2speech.com/
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Old 08 February 2016, 15:19   #29
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Say! - How to quit

Hello! I've found this thread through Google. I used to spend ages getting Say to sing stuff on my school's old Amiga 500...

Having a huge nostalgia trip with UAE at the moment, and I've just rediscovered this old utility. I'm only missing one piece of information.

How do you quit? The Version on workbench 1.3 doesn't have a close button on either of the windows, and there's nothing on the top menu when I right-click.

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Was "Say" a later development of "Sam" for the C64 which in it's demo used to say...

"A Speech siintheesizr for the koomedoor sixty fur Kompuudr"

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Yes, the people who made SAM went to the Amiga to make SAY.
They also did other speech synths before SAM, but I can't recall which.

[edit] on the link above you can see the company who made it wand what else they made: http://www.text2speech.com/#aboutsv . Seems like the Mac speech synth was also the same.
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SAM was released also for Atari XE/XL computers [ Show youtube player ]
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I'll always remember The Art of Chess for hearing the Amiga speak for the first time. "Amiga move, white to play".

I also got very irritated with the Amiga version of Football Manager as the results were read out loud and it took ages!
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For those trying WB 1.3.3 (the latest A500 1.x from Commodore), these 3 files are absent and Say works with the files on WB 1.3 disks that still have the Microsoft Basic on them (1988).

WB 1.3.3 includes an FD1.3 folder that says "Basic FD files here!", and contains all the files in libs: PLUS translator.library. Except they all have the .fd suffix, which I don't know the use for. .fd means FastDir to me.
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