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Old 14 November 2019, 21:23   #3461
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I don't think so. I am not at my Amiga atm, but I think MemSpace0 is the config block of the PCI-PPC bridge and is only addressed by the PPC.

Heretic II seems to be just a bit too big for the K1/M1. You could run the WB in 640x480 with no background pictures and close all open stuff like AmiDock.

Are you trying minigl or software? What resolution are you trying the game in? I thought the K1/M1 was unstable for you?

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sorry Hedeon, few simple questions (I'm hacking a lot these days)

Is It useful to CacheInhibit the MemSpace0 of the K1/M1 address ? (It's 1Mb space)

Is there a way to play Heretic II ppc game (It requires 64Mb) with K1/M1 cards ? The K1/M1 address about 58Mb (not full 64Mb) and I can't play the game (I only see the movies of the game, but if I select new game or tutorial game It quit ... or give not enought memory, or "dll_output recursive shutdown")

I'm using 128Mb on onboard cpu 68k board in A4000

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Old 14 November 2019, 21:55   #3462
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Oh, It might be that when an ATI is detected only 128MB is used. It really should depend on how much room there is in the 512MB zorro window of the Mediator, so a pciinfo output could help. Or try with a voodoo3.


Hi Hedeon,

First off thanks for the support.

So I tried the Voodoo again which I found out why it was giving me the “can’t initiate VGA memory”. This was because I had set VoodooINT=Yes and not No

Once done I have a spinning gear with the Warp3D woohoo

Show info shows 186mb on the sonnet so there must be memory conflict with the ATI cards
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Old 15 November 2019, 02:23   #3463
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Hi Hedeon,

First off thanks for the support.

So I tried the Voodoo again which I found out why it was giving me the “can’t initiate VGA memory”. This was because I had set VoodooINT=Yes and not No

Once done I have a spinning gear with the Warp3D woohoo
That's odd as a while ago, VoodooINT should have been on otherwise benchmarks were much lower and it was a bit more crashy.

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Is there a way to play Heretic II ppc game (It requires 64Mb) with K1/M1 cards ? The K1/M1 address about 58Mb (not full 64Mb) and I can't play the game (I only see the movies of the game, but if I select new game or tutorial game It quit ... or give not enought memory, or "dll_output recursive shutdown")

thanks
Heretic 2 has some variables you could try reducing, I think there was GLTexturecache, Mtexbuffer, and I think a sound buffer setting, GL_TextureCache I think was more related to GFX RAM so that would probably not help.

Off-topic, Apocalypse SysSpeed:
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Old 15 November 2019, 11:07   #3464
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In what resolution? Full screen or window? "little freze screen" means that it stutters or does it freeze completely? What is your mediator voodoomem setting?

I checked every configurations, but allways has a problem.
This problem is visible especialy in fast track in rapier level.
I have this problem in fulle game, and in demo, with sound end without sound.
Is is look like little freze, sometime textures are disappeir in this time.
This stuttering is not regular. Normally, game are very smooth, but time to time show this stuttering.
Please someone with Ragnarok and Wipeout 2097, to check the game on rapier level. Is game is smooth all time?
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Old 15 November 2019, 11:40   #3465
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Off-topic, Apocalypse SysSpeed:
Ah yes, that $110 dollar 450MHz G4 card with 128MB RAM.
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Old 16 November 2019, 02:52   #3466
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I checked every configurations, but allways has a problem.
This problem is visible especialy in fast track in rapier level.
I have this problem in fulle game, and in demo, with sound end without sound.
Is is look like little freze, sometime textures are disappeir in this time.
This stuttering is not regular. Normally, game are very smooth, but time to time show this stuttering.
Please someone with Ragnarok and Wipeout 2097, to check the game on rapier level. Is game is smooth all time?
I tried the two rapier levels and they seem fine. In the options when launching the game I have the buffer on max, doublebuffer enabled, frame limiter 60, AHI Audio. I only played two races but I didn't notice any stuttering, if anything it ran too fast. That's at 640x480x16bit w/Ragnarok+Voodoo 3000ish. Haven't used this system in a while so it has old Sonnetlib 426.
The Apocalypse system runs smooth sort of but seems to be have dramatic shifts in how fast it's updating the screen. But this system has a lot of non standard configuration items at the moment. *Edit* had some bad configuration settings on this system, not really any stuttering to see though.
You might try reducing the framerate cap to say 45 or 30 and see if that helps at all.

Off-topic, updated the Dosbox thread with some performance considerations for Apocalypse. Short version it runs Dosbox quite well.

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Old 18 November 2019, 21:33   #3467
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I tried the two rapier levels and they seem fine. In the options when launching the game I have the buffer on max, doublebuffer enabled, frame limiter 60, AHI Audio. I only played two races but I didn't notice any stuttering, if anything it ran too fast. That's at 640x480x16bit w/Ragnarok+Voodoo 3000ish. Haven't used this system in a while so it has old Sonnetlib 426.
The Apocalypse system runs smooth sort of but seems to be have dramatic shifts in how fast it's updating the screen. But this system has a lot of non standard configuration items at the moment. *Edit* had some bad configuration settings on this system, not really any stuttering to see though.
You might try reducing the framerate cap to say 45 or 30 and see if that helps at all.

Off-topic, updated the Dosbox thread with some performance considerations for Apocalypse. Short version it runs Dosbox quite well.

BIG thanks for your tests.
I have set triple buffers (higher frame rate than double buffer), and AHI Paula 8bit DMA (frame rate about 50~60 FPS),in your setup, you had probably about 40 FPS, and in your config seems to have less frequency of this bug, but still exist.
After long time playing, I saw, that this bug exist in not perfect regular frequency (unlike in PayBack WOS in Sonnet).
This bug seems to be assigned to corectly places in track (like near finish lines, several turns on the track etc).
In my opinion you probably have this problem too (happens, that in one loop, I have not any bug, but another time, I have more stuttering in one loop).
Our configs have one big diffrent: MMU libs/Oxypather.
I don't use MMUlibs, but I use Oxypather.
I will try MMUlibs to test it.
Thanks again for your tests.


Off-topic:
Any chance to update thread DosBox and share new version?
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Old 19 November 2019, 01:51   #3468
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BIG thanks for your tests.
I have set triple buffers (higher frame rate than double buffer), and AHI Paula 8bit DMA (frame rate about 50~60 FPS),in your setup, you had probably about 40 FPS, and in your config seems to have less frequency of this bug, but still exist.
After long time playing, I saw, that this bug exist in not perfect regular frequency (unlike in PayBack WOS in Sonnet).
This bug seems to be assigned to corectly places in track (like near finish lines, several turns on the track etc).
In my opinion you probably have this problem too (happens, that in one loop, I have not any bug, but another time, I have more stuttering in one loop).
Our configs have one big diffrent: MMU libs/Oxypather.
I don't use MMUlibs, but I use Oxypather.
I will try MMUlibs to test it.
Thanks again for your tests.


Off-topic:
Any chance to update thread DosBox and share new version?
Are you saying that that it's stopping down to a dead freeze, like 1fps or that it goes down to say 10-20 FPS during the slowdowns? You are using triplebuffer vs doublebuffer like me have you tried doublebuffer?

The newest version of Dosbox is up there, I don't really have anything else to fix other than joystick support.
https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p...&postcount=100
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Are you saying that that it's stopping down to a dead freeze, like 1fps or that it goes down to say 10-20 FPS during the slowdowns? You are using triplebuffer vs doublebuffer like me have you tried doublebuffer?

The newest version of Dosbox is up there, I don't really have anything else to fix other than joystick support.
https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p...&postcount=100

Please look on this videos:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/15dH...ew?usp=sharing


On this video is visible one situation of bug before end of video.


And this one:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/15VW...ew?usp=sharing


On this video is more (sorry for my third hand).


Thanks for DosBox
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Old 20 November 2019, 04:41   #3470
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Ah yes, that $110 dollar 450MHz G4 card with 128MB RAM. And 2MB of L2 cache rated for 250MHz.

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Old 20 November 2019, 14:29   #3471
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Library only supports 1 MB of L2 cache currently. I guess I should revisit this. The 2MB recognition code was checked on a Sonnet G4. The IBM size test code I used resulted in a reported size of 0x1ff400 or something similar so I decided to deactivate that part.
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This should be easy to upgrade to 256MB, takes only 15 minutes™. And library already supports it. 512MB could also work but we don't have a reference to know it works on this particular card.

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Old 22 November 2019, 23:20   #3473
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So I noticed on the Github SonnetAmiga site it states that the Mediator TX is not supported.... is this still the case

If so is it only the sonnet or all PPC cards?
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So I noticed on the Github SonnetAmiga site it states that the Mediator TX is not supported.... is this still the case

If so is it only the sonnet or all PPC cards?
All A1200 Mediators basically are not supported on any PPC board. Some people have reported various levels of dissatisfaction and maybe one guy was only slightly disgruntled with the A1200 stability. So it's not supported but might work in certain situations where PCI Audio is used over AHI (not Paula).
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All A1200 Mediators basically are not supported on any PPC board. Some people have reported various levels of dissatisfaction and maybe one guy was only slightly disgruntled with the A1200 stability. So it's not supported but might work in certain situations where PCI Audio is used over AHI (not Paula).


Ok well I’ll give it ago someday and report back how I get on
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Old 25 November 2019, 00:50   #3476
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PowerPC Exception - Sonnet

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I'm guessing 70400000 is the start of your PPC memory?

You really should consider installing the MMULib, don't forget to set P5Init in your MMU-Configuration. Without showconfig, muscan and pciinfo there's not enough information to go on.
Hi guys,

I tested Sonnet again, I installed MMULib, it seems worked fine but now sometimes working sometimes not. I do not know where might be o problem. Here are my configuration files:

PCIINFO Befor Init PPC:

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Electronics
DeviceID: $35
DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
ClassCode: $c0310
RevisionID: $41
InterruptPin: 1
SubsystemVendorID: $1033
SubsystemID: $35
MemSpace0: $60000000 - $60000fff

Pci Device 2:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Electronics
DeviceID: $35
DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
ClassCode: $c0310
RevisionID: $41
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $1033
SubsystemID: $35
MemSpace0: $60100000 - $60100fff

Pci Device 3:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Electronics
DeviceID: $e0
DeviceName: uPD720100A USB 2.0 Host Controller
ClassCode: $c0320
RevisionID: $2
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
SubsystemID: $89e
MemSpace0: $60200000 - $602000ff

Pci Device 4:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
DeviceID: $5
DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $57
MemSpace0: $62000000 - $63ffffff
MemSpace1: $64000000 - $65ffffff
IOSpace2: $40c06000 - $40c060ff
RomSpace: $60300000 - $6030ffff

Pci Device 5:
VendorID: $1274
VendorName: Ensoniq
DeviceID: $1371
DeviceName: ES 1373 AudioPCI
ClassCode: $40100
RevisionID: $8
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $1274
SubsystemID: $1371
IOSpace0: $40c06100 - $40c0613f

Pci Device 6:
VendorID: $1057
VendorName: Motorola
DeviceID: $4
DeviceName: MPC107 PCI Bridge/Memory Controller for PPC
ClassCode: $e0001
RevisionID: $12
InterruptPin: 4
SubsystemVendorID: $0
SubsystemID: $0
MemSpace1: $60400000 - $60400fff

Pci Device 7:
VendorID: $10ec
VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor
DeviceID: $8029
DeviceName: RTL8029(as)pci ethernet nic windot XPse
ClassCode: $20000
RevisionID: $0
InterruptPin: 1
SubsystemVendorID: $10ec
SubsystemID: $8029
IOSpace0: $40c06200 - $40c0621f

ShowConfig Befor InitPPC:

PROCESSOR: CPU 68060/68060fpu/68060mmu
CUSTOM CHIPS: AA PAL Alice (id=$0023), AA Lisa (id=$00F8)
VERS: Kickstart version 40.68, Exec version 40.10, Disk version 45.5
RAM: Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $8000000-$FF7FFFF (127.5 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $7000000-$7FFFFFF (16.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $2005 (FAST), at $64C00000-$64CFFFFF (1.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $703 (CHIP), at $8000-$1FFFFF (~2.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $2 (CHIP), at $4000-$7FFF (64 K)
BOARDS:
Board + ROM (HD?) (unidentified): Prod=10676/1($29B4/$1) (@$E90000 64K)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/33($89E/$21)
(@$40000000, size 16meg, subsize same)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/161($89E/$A1)
(@$60000000, size 512meg, subsize same)
Board + ROM (HD?) (phase 5): Prod=8512/100($2140/$64) (@$F01060 128K)




PCIINFO After Init PPC:

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Electronics
DeviceID: $35
DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
ClassCode: $c0310
RevisionID: $41
InterruptPin: 1
SubsystemVendorID: $1033
SubsystemID: $35
MemSpace0: $60000000 - $60000fff

Pci Device 2:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Electronics
DeviceID: $35
DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
ClassCode: $c0310
RevisionID: $41
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $1033
SubsystemID: $35
MemSpace0: $60100000 - $60100fff

Pci Device 3:
VendorID: $1033
VendorName: NEC Electronics
DeviceID: $e0
DeviceName: uPD720100A USB 2.0 Host Controller
ClassCode: $c0320
RevisionID: $2
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
SubsystemID: $89e
MemSpace0: $60200000 - $602000ff

Pci Device 4:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
DeviceID: $5
DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $57
MemSpace0: $62000000 - $63ffffff
MemSpace1: $64000000 - $65ffffff
IOSpace2: $40c06000 - $40c060ff
RomSpace: $60300000 - $6030ffff

Pci Device 5:
VendorID: $1274
VendorName: Ensoniq
DeviceID: $1371
DeviceName: ES 1373 AudioPCI
ClassCode: $40100
RevisionID: $8
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $1274
SubsystemID: $1371
IOSpace0: $40c06100 - $40c0613f

Pci Device 6:
VendorID: $1057
VendorName: Motorola
DeviceID: $4
DeviceName: MPC107 PCI Bridge/Memory Controller for PPC
ClassCode: $e0001
RevisionID: $12
InterruptPin: 4
SubsystemVendorID: $0
SubsystemID: $0
MemSpace0: $70000000 - $7bffffff
MemSpace1: $60400000 - $60400fff

Pci Device 7:
VendorID: $10ec
VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor
DeviceID: $8029
DeviceName: RTL8029(as)pci ethernet nic windot XPse
ClassCode: $20000
RevisionID: $0
InterruptPin: 1
SubsystemVendorID: $10ec
SubsystemID: $8029
IOSpace0: $40c06200 - $40c0621f


ShowConfig After InitPPC - PowerPC Exception:

PROCESSOR: CPU 68060/68060fpu/68060mmu
CUSTOM CHIPS: AA PAL Alice (id=$0023), AA Lisa (id=$00F8)
VERS: Kickstart version 40.68, Exec version 40.10, Disk version 45.5
RAM: Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $8000000-$FF7FFFF (127.5 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $7000000-$7FFFFFF (16.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $2005 (FAST), at $70480000-$7BEFFFFF (186.5 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $703 (CHIP), at $8000-$1FFFFF (~2.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $2005 (FAST), at $64C00000-$64CFFFFF (1.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $2 (CHIP), at $4000-$7FFF (64 K)
BOARDS:
Board + ROM (HD?) (unidentified): Prod=10676/1($29B4/$1) (@$E90000 64K)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/33($89E/$21)
(@$40000000, size 16meg, subsize same)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/161($89E/$A1)
(@$60000000, size 512meg, subsize same)
Board + ROM (HD?) (phase 5): Prod=8512/100($2140/$64) (@$F01060 128K)

MuScan:

MuScan 46.1 (02.07.2016) © THOR

68060 MMU detected.
MMU page size is 0x1000 bytes.

Memory map:
0x00000000 - 0x001FFFFF CacheInhibit Imprecise NonSerial
0x00200000 - 0x00BBFFFF Blank
0x00BC0000 - 0x00BFFFFF CacheInhibit I/O space
0x00C00000 - 0x00D7FFFF Blank
0x00D80000 - 0x00DFFFFF CacheInhibit I/O space
0x00E00000 - 0x00E8FFFF Blank
0x00E90000 - 0x00E9FFFF CacheInhibit I/O space
0x00EA0000 - 0x00EFFFFF Blank
0x00F00000 - 0x00F00FFF CacheInhibit
0x00F01000 - 0x00F21FFF CacheInhibit I/O space
0x00F22000 - 0x00F7FFFF CacheInhibit
0x00F80000 - 0x00FFFFFF ROM CopyBack Remapped to 0x0FEBC000
0x01000000 - 0x06FFFFFF Blank
0x07000000 - 0x0801FFFF CopyBack
0x08020000 - 0x08022FFF CacheInhibit
0x08023000 - 0x0FEBBFFF CopyBack
0x0FEBC000 - 0x0FF3BFFF ROM CopyBack
0x0FF3C000 - 0x0FF7FFFF CopyBack
0x0FF80000 - 0x0FFFFFFF CacheInhibit
0x10000000 - 0x3FFFFFFF Blank
0x40000000 - 0x40FFFFFF CacheInhibit I/O space
0x41000000 - 0x5FFFFFFF Blank
0x60000000 - 0x7FFFFFFF CacheInhibit I/O space
0x80000000 - 0xFFEFFFFF Blank
0xFFF00000 - 0xFFF7FFFF CacheInhibit
0xFFF80000 - 0xFFFFFFFF Blank

MMU Configuration file:

;*************************************************************************
;** MMU Configuration file **
;** **
;** this file is read on startup by the mmu.library and used to modify **
;** the pre-calculated or scanned MMU table **
;** **
;** © 1999-2018 THOR Software, Thomas Richter **
;*************************************************************************

; the current version of the MMU library knows four commands that can
; be used in this file:
; CLEARTTX clears all or parts of the transparent translation registers
; ADDMEM adds memory to the exec free list pool. BE WARNED, this command
; does NOT modify the MMU tables, this must be done manually with
; SETCACHEMODE
; SETCACHEMODE defines the MMU tables.
; DESCRIPTORCACHEINHIBIT defines whether the data cache should be disabled
; for the MMU descriptors. It's usually OFF meaning the cache will remain
; enabled. This is fine for the mmu.library, but certain hacks might require
; an ON argument here. Note that this means more work for the library.

ClearTTx ;ignore all TTX registers if any. We don't need them

;DescriptorCacheInhibit ON ;make access to MMU descriptors cache inhibited

;Board specific setup follows here,
;generated by BuildMMUConfig 1.10 © 29.07.2000 THOR-Software

;General memory setup follows.
;The following lines are a compatibility kludge for some P5 boards
;which enable the MMU prior to the 68040/68060 library and leave
;the memory in CACHEINHIBIT state. You may remove the following
;lines on all other machines most likely.

;Memory setup end.

;P5 fixes follow here:
;If you do not own a P5 board, you may remove the following lines
;
;Several P5 boards build a private MMU setup on boot
;using a kludge called the BOOT-MMU-Port. To run this
;kludge, the following external command is run from
;LIBS:mmu/ as all other external commands
;
;This command installs also other P5 relevant MMU settings
;Hence, for P5 boards, please keep it in place even if
;you *DO NOT* see the BOOT-MMU-Port.
;
P5Init

;ACA fixes follow here:
;If you do not own an ACA board, you may remove the following lines
;
;This command installs ACA relevant MMU settings
;Hence, for older ACA boards, please keep it in place.
;
;ACAInit

Here are some examples of PowerPC Exceptions:

Task name: '' Task address: 00000000
Exception: Machine Check

SRR0: 70400000 SRR1: 0004F030 MSR: 00002030 HID0: 0000C0A4
PVR: 00088302 DAR: 00000000 DSISR: 00000000 SDR1: 0BF0000F
DEC: 000514E5 TBU: 00000000 TBL: 00151915 XER: 00000000
CR: 40000000 FPSCR: 00000000 LR: FFF03648 CTR: 00000004

R0-R3: 00051615 7047FEC0 00000000 7BEFFA88 IBAT0: 0000003E 00000002
R4-R7: BD00009E 00100000 FFF03FDC 30000000 IBAT1: 640003FF C4000002
R8-R11: 17D78400 1DCD6500 FFF03648 FFF03020 IBAT2: 7020003F 00200002
R12-R15: 08000000 7047FFDC FFF03020 0BF0000F IBAT3: 00000000 00000000
R16-R19: 000001FF 70400000 7C000000 0C000000 DBAT0: 0000003E 00000002
R20-R23: 00000000 00000002 FFF043DC 0C000000 DBAT1: 640003FF C4000042
R24-R27: 64000000 70000008 F0060000 00000000 DBAT2: 7020003F 00200022
R28-R31: 494E4954 FFF03004 00100000 70400000 DBAT3: 00000000 00000000


Task name: '' Task address: 00000000
Exception: Machine Check

SRR0: 70400000 SRR1: 0004F030 MSR: 00002030 HID0: 0000C0A4
PVR: 00088302 DAR: 00000000 DSISR: 00000000 SDR1: 0BF0000F
DEC: 000514E4 TBU: 00000000 TBL: 00153DFF XER: 00000000
CR: 40000000 FPSCR: 00000000 LR: FFF03648 CTR: 00000004

R0-R3: 00051615 7047FEC0 00000000 7BEFFA88 IBAT0: 0000003E 00000002
R4-R7: BD00009E 00100000 FFF03FDC 30000000 IBAT1: 640003FF C4000002
R8-R11: 17D78400 1DCD6500 FFF03648 FFF03020 IBAT2: 7020003F 00200002
R12-R15: 08000000 7047FFDC FFF03020 0BF0000F IBAT3: 00000000 00000000
R16-R19: 000001FF 70400000 7C000000 0C000000 DBAT0: 0000003E 00000002
R20-R23: 00000000 00000002 FFF043DC 0C000000 DBAT1: 640003FF C4000042
R24-R27: 64000000 70000008 F0060000 00000000 DBAT2: 7020003F 00200022
R28-R31: 494E4954 FFF03004 00100000 70400000 DBAT3: 00000000 00000000


Task name: '' Task address: 00000000
Exception: Machine Check

SRR0: 70400000 SRR1: 0004F030 MSR: 00002030 HID0: 0000C0A4
PVR: 00088302 DAR: 00000000 DSISR: 00000000 SDR1: 0BF0000F
DEC: 000514E4 TBU: 00000000 TBL: 00156AAF XER: 00000000
CR: 40000000 FPSCR: 00000000 LR: FFF03648 CTR: 00000004

R0-R3: 00051615 7047FEC0 00000000 7BEFFA88 IBAT0: 0000003E 00000002
R4-R7: BD00009E 00100000 FFF03FDC 30000000 IBAT1: 640003FF C4000002
R8-R11: 17D78400 1DCD6500 FFF03648 FFF03020 IBAT2: 7020003F 00200002
R12-R15: 08000000 7047FFDC FFF03020 0BF0000F IBAT3: 00000000 00000000
R16-R19: 000001FF 70400000 7C000000 0C000000 DBAT0: 0000003E 00000002
R20-R23: 00000000 00000002 FFF043DC 0C000000 DBAT1: 640003FF C4000042
R24-R27: 64000000 70000008 F0060000 00000000 DBAT2: 7020003F 00200022
R28-R31: 494E4954 FFF03004 00100000 70400000 DBAT3: 00000000 00000000


Here is listing of my all board inside A4000:

showboards 2.12 (18.12.16)
using boards.library V3.42
=======================================================================================================================================================================
You are running Kickstart V45.57
=======================================================================================================================================================================
Board 1: USB 2.0 Host Controller (OHCI compliant)
Made by: NEC Corporation

Product ID: 53 / $0035 Manufacturer ID: 4147 / $1033
Address: $60000000 Size: 4k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 00 00 00 10 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 2: USB 2.0 Host Controller (OHCI compliant)
Made by: NEC Corporation

Product ID: 53 / $0035 Manufacturer ID: 4147 / $1033
Address: $60100000 Size: 4k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 00 00 00 10 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 3: USB 2.0 Host Controller
Made by: NEC Corporation

Product ID: 224 / $00E0 Manufacturer ID: 4147 / $1033
Address: $60200000 Size: 4k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 00 00 00 10 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 4: Voodoo 3
Made by: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.

Product ID: 5 / $0005 Manufacturer ID: 4634 / $121A
Address: $62000000 Size: 512k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 00 00 00 12 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 5: ES1371 / ES1373-A/B
Made by: Ensoniq

Product ID: 4977 / $1371 Manufacturer ID: 4724 / $1274
Address: $40C06100 Size: 4k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 00 00 00 12 74 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 6: Unknown Prod.ID #4
Made by: Unknown Man.ID #4183

Product ID: 4 / $0004 Manufacturer ID: 4626 / $1212
Address: $00000000 Size: 0k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 04 00 00 12 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 7: Realtek 8029 A/B/C/D
Made by: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.

Product ID: 32809 / $8029 Manufacturer ID: 4332 / $10EC
Address: $40C06200 Size: 4k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board can be shut up.
Board is a PCI card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $00 00 00 00 10 EC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 8: FrameMachine
Made by: Electronic Design

Product ID: 1 / $0001 Manufacturer ID: 10676 / $29B4
Address: $00E90000 Size: 64k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board needs a driver to claim it.
Board has ROM.
Board cannot be shut up.
Board is a Zorro III card.
Serial: 3840206052 / $E4E4E4E4

Expansion ROM data: $D1 01 40 00 29 B4 E4 E4 E4 E4 00 80 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 9: MEDIATOR PCI 4000 (PCI/Z III bridge)
Made by: ELBOX-Computer

Product ID: 33 / $0021 Manufacturer ID: 2206 / $089E
Address: $40000000 Size: 16M

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board needs a driver to claim it.
Next board sits on this one.
Board can be shut up.
Board is a Zorro III card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $88 21 20 00 08 9E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 10: opt. space for MEDIATOR PCI 4000 memory
Made by: ELBOX-Computer

Product ID: 161 / $00A1 Manufacturer ID: 2206 / $089E
Address: $60000000 Size: 512M

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board needs a driver to claim it.
Board can be shut up.
Board is a Zorro III card.
Serial: 0 / $0

Expansion ROM data: $85 A1 20 00 08 9E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Board 11: CyberStorm PPC/MK III SCSI
Made by: Phase 5 Digital Products

Product ID: 100 / $0064 Manufacturer ID: 8512 / $2140
Address: $00F01060 Size: 128k

Decoding of board's type & flags:

Board has ROM.
Board can be shut up.
Board is a Zorro III card.
Serial: 232063088 / $DD50070

Expansion ROM data: $D2 64 00 FF 21 40 0D D5 00 70 00 04 00 00 00 00


Please have a look on this and check, thanks!


Regards,

Joe
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Old 25 November 2019, 10:57   #3477
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I am guessing faulty memory. The PPC is initialized correctly, but this is done while using VGA memory. After all is set up, it jumps to PPC memory to the idle task and then immediately fails with a Machine Check failure which is indicative of a HW error. Memory being either the on-board memory sticks or cache memory.

Have never seen machine check exceptions, i must admit.

Edit:

From the manual:

Assertion of TEA during a data bus transaction, assertion of MCP, or an
address, data, or L2 bus parity error.

TEA being Transfer Error Acknowledge.

Last edited by Hedeon; 25 November 2019 at 11:31. Reason: Added excerpt of mpc750 manual
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Old 25 November 2019, 13:27   #3478
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PowerPC Exception - Sonnet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedeon View Post
I am guessing faulty memory. The PPC is initialized correctly, but this is done while using VGA memory. After all is set up, it jumps to PPC memory to the idle task and then immediately fails with a Machine Check failure which is indicative of a HW error. Memory being either the on-board memory sticks or cache memory.

Have never seen machine check exceptions, i must admit.

Edit:

From the manual:

Assertion of TEA during a data bus transaction, assertion of MCP, or an
address, data, or L2 bus parity error.

TEA being Transfer Error Acknowledge.



Hi Hedeon,


thanks for respond, memory I think is ok, Jack3D also tested this memory and worked fine. Also with my MK II worked fine, only sometimes was there PowerPC Exception.


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Joe
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Old 25 November 2019, 14:21   #3479
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New PCI library

We have a new pci.library from ELBOX, here:
http://elbox.com/downloads_mediator.html


Someone tested it with "sonnet.library"?
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Old 25 November 2019, 23:49   #3480
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Hi Hedeon,
thanks for respond, memory I think is ok, Jack3D also tested this memory and worked fine. Also with my MK II worked fine, only sometimes was there PowerPC Exception.

Regards,

Joe
Hi Joe,
Have you tried setting envarc:sonnet/SetCMemDiv=5 (slowest setting)? Others have mentioned in the past that regardless of what was supposed to be on the board, they needed to set this to slowest to be stable. Unfortunately I upgraded both of my Sonnets to 250MHz so I can't really test this any more (other than crashing it by setting it too fast).
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