English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > abime.net - Hall Of Light > HOL suggestions and feedback

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 04 November 2017, 19:01   #1
Tsak
Registered User

Tsak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Athens
Posts: 223
Recently released games missing from HOL

As the title suggests, I've noticed several games from 2016 & 2017 are missing from HOL. Here's a list:

2016

Blake Stone
Catacomb 3D
Giana Sisters S.E.
Hexen II: Hammer of Thyrion
Project Lila
Reshoot
Retro Wars (the Spanish release, English one is due to be released in a few days as far as I know)
Time Gal

2017

Amiinvaders
CannonBall
Killer Bees
Lumberjack
Paralel worlds (beta? 2017?)
Space Hippies
OpenBOR
With Fire and Sword: Spiders
Zodes

Some entries from this year's AmiGameJam:

Bridge Strike (not sure if a special version just for this jam was released)
The last starfighter
BrusLii
Max Knight Xmas Edition

As a plus to the above, I guess most games from this site https://artishq.wordpress.com/ should also be added since those are indeed playable on classic Amigas (even if only on high end ones).

Last edited by Tsak; 04 November 2017 at 22:42.
Tsak is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
Old 04 November 2017, 22:35   #2
DamienD
Global Moderator

DamienD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: London / Sydney
Age: 41
Posts: 9,578
...then I guess people need to take an active roll themselves i.e. provide screenshots / information to the HOL team; who like the EAB moderation team; are very under-resourced

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
<snip>

Easter Egg

<snip>
This is definitely on HOL: >>> Clicky <<<
DamienD is offline  
Old 04 November 2017, 22:43   #3
Tsak
Registered User

Tsak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Athens
Posts: 223
Right, missed that
Tsak is offline  
Old 05 November 2017, 17:16   #4
hipoonios
Amiga Hardcore Gamer

hipoonios's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sweden
Age: 39
Posts: 1,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
As the title suggests, I've noticed several games from 2016 & 2017 are missing from HOL. Here's a list:
Nice list

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
Max Knight Xmas Edition
Not sure if this is worth a separate entry. The X-Mas Edition was released one year earlier and is the demo version of the full game. The X-Mas Edition has 12 levels and most of them are also in the full game. So updated the entry with a mention that there is a X-Mas Edition and also uploaded some screenshots.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
Giana Sisters S.E.
I think this qualify as a hack and what I've heard is hacks banned from HOL. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
Retro Wars (the Spanish release, English one is due to be released in a few days as far as I know)
Paralel worlds (beta? 2017?)
Space Hippies
Let's wait for the full games

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
Project Lila
Reshoot
Catacomb 3D
These would be added long ago if digital downloads was available!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
As a plus to the above, I guess most games from this site https://artishq.wordpress.com/ should also be added since those are indeed playable on classic Amigas (even if only on high end ones).
Personally, I do not think these should be added. There are hundreds of these (Linux?/SDL) ports and are not really Amiga games IMHO.

Have no comments for the other games for now.
hipoonios is offline  
Old 05 November 2017, 17:36   #5
Gzegzolka
Registered User

 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Warszawa / Polska
Posts: 1,002
Giana SE could be mentioned in comments section, I think it is worth to be there.
Tyrian and Cave Story ports or not, those are now amiga games, even if they were first made for pc. Same story is fan version of Metal Slug.
Gzegzolka is offline  
Old 05 November 2017, 21:09   #6
Tsak
Registered User

Tsak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Athens
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipoonios View Post
I think this qualify as a hack and what I've heard is hacks banned from HOL. Correct me if I'm wrong.
No, it's a hack indeed.
Didn't know those are excluded from HOL.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hipoonios View Post
Let's wait for the full games
The Spanish version of Retro Wars is already released (for about a year now).

Quote:
Originally Posted by hipoonios View Post
Personally, I do not think these should be added. There are hundreds of these (Linux?/SDL) ports and are not really Amiga games IMHO.
Well, this is from HOL fundamentals:
"Some Open Source conversions (e.g. Doom) and games playable through interpreters (e.g. ScummVM or Exult) are listed. These are considered 'native' Amiga games."

So, I don't see why not. You cannot run literally every SDL game out there. Most games listed at that site, someone sat down and made sure they could run on Amiga.
Tsak is offline  
Old 06 November 2017, 00:19   #7
DamienD
Global Moderator

DamienD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: London / Sydney
Age: 41
Posts: 9,578
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipoonios View Post
I think this qualify as a hack and what I've heard is hacks banned from HOL. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
No, it's a hack indeed.
Didn't know those are excluded from HOL.
...well then, please tell me what New Year Lemmings 1991/92 is doing on HOL?

Look at the "Notes" section for the above entry


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Regarding Max Knight...

You guys seemed to have missed that I used compression techniques to get the "full intro" onto the .ADF version from the hard drive files; see here...

You should link to that in the "Notes" section
DamienD is offline  
Old 06 November 2017, 20:56   #8
hipoonios
Amiga Hardcore Gamer

hipoonios's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sweden
Age: 39
Posts: 1,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gzegzolka View Post
Giana SE could be mentioned in comments section, I think it is worth to be there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
No, it's a hack indeed.
Didn't know those are excluded from HOL.
I would like to make an exception and include some info and screens of the S.E. version. But DrBong mention in this thread that they have thrown out many hacks from HOLs early days. So guess the answer is no. I think a mention in the comments section could be added though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
Well, this is from HOL fundamentals:
"Some Open Source conversions (e.g. Doom) and games playable through interpreters (e.g. ScummVM or Exult) are listed. These are considered 'native' Amiga games."

So, I don't see why not. You cannot run literally every SDL game out there. Most games listed at that site, someone sat down and made sure they could run on Amiga.
I know there are a few ports already in HOL. But all these are special in some way and does not need 68060, SDL, AHI and graphics card to run (which most SDL ports does). But again, this is my personal opinion. Better someone from the main team give their view on the matter. CodyJarrett, DrBong are you reading?

There are 140+ more SDL ports on Aminet
hipoonios is offline  
Old 06 November 2017, 23:21   #9
DamienD
Global Moderator

DamienD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: London / Sydney
Age: 41
Posts: 9,578
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipoonios View Post
I would like to make an exception and include some info and screens of the S.E. version. But DrBong mention in this thread that they have thrown out many hacks from HOLs early days. So guess the answer is no. I think a mention in the comments section could be added though.
...but the difference is that it's a new / modern day / high quality "overhaul" (not really a "hack") of a classic Amiga game that every man and his dog knows

Really, it should be considered a new game IMHO.

Anyway, don't listen to Carlo; what does he know??? I'll sort him out; oh antipodean / Vegemite munching brother
DamienD is offline  
Old 06 November 2017, 23:48   #10
BippyM
Global Moderator

BippyM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nottingham, UK
Age: 42
Posts: 8,620
With regards to lemmings.. That isn't hack,wasn't it created by DMA design? Surely that constitutes a release and not a hack.
BippyM is offline  
Old 07 November 2017, 00:07   #11
DamienD
Global Moderator

DamienD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: London / Sydney
Age: 41
Posts: 9,578
No, New Year Lemmings 1991/92 is a hack by "Gastion / FLT". Nothing to do with Psygnosis / DMA...

Read the HOL notes Bipstar
DamienD is offline  
Old 07 November 2017, 00:12   #12
BippyM
Global Moderator

BippyM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Nottingham, UK
Age: 42
Posts: 8,620
Too much EAB on my phone lol.. Brain is frazzled

Quote:
Originally Posted by DamienD View Post
No, New Year Lemmings 1991/92 is a hack by "Gastion / FLT". Nothing to do with Psygnosis / DMA...

Read the HOL notes Bipstar
BippyM is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2 games missing on HOL in the zone ExiE HOL contributions 30 07 December 2016 09:11
List Games Missing in the HOL Here! CodyJarrett HOL data problems 108 16 November 2015 18:24
missing game in HOL jpmaverick HOL contributions 5 28 April 2004 15:55

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 13:19.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Page generated in 0.18229 seconds with 13 queries