INCREDIBLE what some 14-year-olds had coded on the Amiga!

andreas · 09 September 2009, 17:25

Now this rocks, huh?
Just popped into my eye while browsing Youtube because of something else...

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Soft scrolling in hyperspeed as in Tearaway Thomas or Zool 2!!

Zetr0 · 09 September 2009, 18:46

its pretty impressive!

how long ago was this?

andreas · 09 September 2009, 19:00

well he reveals on his channel that he's 25, so it must have been 11 years ago (1998), i. e. a "post-heyday Amigan"

StingRay · 09 September 2009, 19:53

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Originally Posted by andreas

Now this rocks, huh?

Not really.

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Originally Posted by andreas

Soft scrolling in hyperspeed as in Tearaway Thomas or Zool 2!!

Yeah, almost... Only that that there is almost nothing on screen. And horizontal scrolling isn't exactly hard to achieve on Amiga. Definitely not bad for a 14 year old but nothing to write home about either.

andreas · 09 September 2009, 20:30

C'mon, give the guy a break.
I know it's not Turrican

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Originally Posted by StingRay

And horizontal scrolling isn't exactly hard to achieve on Amiga.

Maybe, but consider the helluva lot of commercial (!) games with rather jittery H-scrolling (beside those top-notch ones that scroll as smoothly as a baby's bottom)
Let alone the fact that the games I linked do not only scroll horizontally, but vertically too!

Retro1234 · 09 September 2009, 20:30

Just 14

considering how much work for Game design, Graphics ,Game Data and then the Engine
- Very impressive for anyone
Anyone contacted this Guy?

andreas · 09 September 2009, 20:42

Not me at least.

And I'll probably leave it that way for the time being, considering that he already got dozens of e-mails asking him for the game disk and he may already be annoyed by that

So I'm gonna leave it all to you guys. ^^

Photon · 09 September 2009, 21:12

What is impressive is to make a whole game and finish it! Even though 50fps scrolling was perfectly possible on the A1000, few games had it - partly due to the state of the art, partly due to 6-month contracts

and partly because many games had more stuff moving about on-screen.

But even if it's probably running on an AGA Amiga with accelerator, there's quite a bit of code and work to do such a thing... enemy handling, collision detection, level editing... and at an early age like 14, not very many have the necessary programming skills.

Sad that he won't release it, if he want to keep it to polish it before a proper release, he could at least release a "preview" - just in case the proper never gets completed

StingRay · 09 September 2009, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Photon

What is impressive is to make a whole game and finish it!

I wonder where you guys see the game here? All I see is some sort of horizontal scrolling demo that can hardly be called game IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Photon

Sad that he won't release it, if he want to keep it to polish it before a proper release, he could at least release a "preview" - just in case the proper never gets completed

I somehow doubt that he feels like "polishing" something he made more than a decade ago.

Jherek Carnelia · 09 September 2009, 23:43

Well I'm impressed.

I didn't have what it takes to do that at 14. Maybe he's done nothing since. So what?

At 14 that was an impressive achievement - nothing goundbreaking for sure - but it shows a maturity that many never achieve.

Well done, I say

Marcuz · 10 September 2009, 13:04

i like a lot the graphic (except the main sprite), the music and sounds and the scrolling. if it was a game too, with few tweaking, possibly, it would be very good a game, imho, no matter how if the programming was just of medium level and the feeling of ancient games.

as for retroplaying goes, that looks great.

extralife · 10 September 2009, 23:14

lol come on stingray! shooting down a 14 year old upcomming coder hero like that

u surely show no mercy

wilshy · 11 September 2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Photon

Sad that he won't release it,

Not really. While yes, mildly impressive that a 14 year old did something like this, it doesn't exactly look like a game we need on the Amiga.

Run run run, jump a couple of enemies, run run run. Zzzzzz.

Graham Humphrey · 11 September 2009, 17:03

I would quite like to play it just out of curiosity really. I think it's really very impressive how someone can put something together like that at such a young age. There can't be too many people who can do that at 14.

AB Positive · 11 September 2009, 17:33

Hell, I'm struggling to do even half of that at 27. Thumbs up my man!

twizzle · 12 September 2009, 00:38

from a 14yr old i`d say that was pretty impressive ,
the game play reminds me of titus the fox

Boom^ · 13 September 2009, 20:02

Thats really awesome. I made some games on the amiga too when i was 14 and that looks a lot better than what I managed to come up with!

Photon · 13 September 2009, 21:08

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Originally Posted by StingRay

I wonder where you guys see the game here? All I see is some sort of horizontal scrolling demo that can hardly be called game IMHO.

Well, he's done a very large part of all the things needed to do a "real" game, as I explained. Megaman series speedruns also look like demos since the expert just slips by enemies that took 5 extralives off a normal player.

The game has physics, ground (and walls and ... simply, map) detection, enemies with energy"meters", end of level bosses, powerups including 3 different kinds of protection (including the submarine in the water level) and hidden extralives, moving platforms, (ugly) bonus tally screens, event music... my point was that it takes patience to code that, rare in 14yo's, and much, much rarer in 37yo's

Only needs a little more variation, nice graphics and polish to be a Megaman, Sonic, Metroid... take your pick. It already has more gameplay than SOTB

and the majority of the platformers for Amiga were pretty fucking drab...

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Originally Posted by StingRay

I somehow doubt that he feels like "polishing" something he made more than a decade ago.

He says he works in the game industry today and doesn't have the energy to code in the evenings, so he probably won't. But you say it like he would be insane to want to code Amiga again

or at least throw out everything he coded back then, since he is much better at coding assembler nowadays when his brain is older and he's coded modern games in high level languages...? pf.

Now, as a reality check, he seems to have a decent beefy AGA Amiga, and it still... umm doesn't look and sound so good, it even stutters at times. So if you accuse him of not coding so great when he was 14, well...

I still maintain (see topic) it's strong by a 14yo to have the stamina, he probably drew, edited, converted all the (ok crappish) graphics himself on top of the coding, and he didn't go to a proper workplace with colleagues helping him, but probably spent evenings and holidays in his bedroom because he was turned on by his Amiga.

If he used a finished framework with level editors etc, it would be tons easier ofc. I'm assuming assembler now.

8bitbubsy · 13 September 2009, 23:07

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Originally Posted by StingRay

I wonder where you guys see the game here? All I see is some sort of horizontal scrolling demo that can hardly be called game IMHO.

Gah! What do you call pong? A 1 bit graphics depth, one bitplane DEMO with a bouncing and filled rectangle?
Actually, that game looked fun! The levels could've been longer, but this is really impressive considering his age when he made it. Fine, the graphics was a bit lame, but it takes much to be a hero in gfx, sfx AND coding...
No need to be arrogant StingRay, you might be good in programming (

), but that just due to your addictiveness to the Amiga

TCD · 13 September 2009, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Photon

Only needs a little more variation, nice graphics and polish to be a Megaman, Sonic, Metroid... take your pick. It already has more gameplay than SOTB

and the majority of the platformers for Amiga were pretty fucking drab...

TBH it looks quite mediocre

Surely a really nice effort for a 14/15 year old 'one man show', but nothing I'd drool over.

09 September 2009, 17:25	#1
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09 September 2009, 18:46	#2
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	its pretty impressive! how long ago was this?

09 September 2009, 19:00	#3
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	well he reveals on his channel that he's 25, so it must have been 11 years ago (1998), i. e. a "post-heyday Amigan"

09 September 2009, 20:30	#6
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Just 14 considering how much work for Game design, Graphics ,Game Data and then the Engine - Very impressive for anyone Anyone contacted this Guy?

09 September 2009, 20:42	#7
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Not me at least. And I'll probably leave it that way for the time being, considering that he already got dozens of e-mails asking him for the game disk and he may already be annoyed by that So I'm gonna leave it all to you guys. ^^

09 September 2009, 21:12	#8
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	What is impressive is to make a whole game and finish it! Even though 50fps scrolling was perfectly possible on the A1000, few games had it - partly due to the state of the art, partly due to 6-month contracts and partly because many games had more stuff moving about on-screen. But even if it's probably running on an AGA Amiga with accelerator, there's quite a bit of code and work to do such a thing... enemy handling, collision detection, level editing... and at an early age like 14, not very many have the necessary programming skills. Sad that he won't release it, if he want to keep it to polish it before a proper release, he could at least release a "preview" - just in case the proper never gets completed

09 September 2009, 23:43	#10
Jherek Carnelia Dazed and Confused Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: portsmouth/uk Posts: 242	Well I'm impressed. I didn't have what it takes to do that at 14. Maybe he's done nothing since. So what? At 14 that was an impressive achievement - nothing goundbreaking for sure - but it shows a maturity that many never achieve. Well done, I say

10 September 2009, 13:04	#11
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	i like a lot the graphic (except the main sprite), the music and sounds and the scrolling. if it was a game too, with few tweaking, possibly, it would be very good a game, imho, no matter how if the programming was just of medium level and the feeling of ancient games. as for retroplaying goes, that looks great.

10 September 2009, 23:14	#12
extralife Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: denmark Posts: 268	lol come on stingray! shooting down a 14 year old upcomming coder hero like that u surely show no mercy

11 September 2009, 17:03	#14
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I would quite like to play it just out of curiosity really. I think it's really very impressive how someone can put something together like that at such a young age. There can't be too many people who can do that at 14.

11 September 2009, 17:33	#15
AB Positive kachou ON! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Hampshire, US Posts: 192	Hell, I'm struggling to do even half of that at 27. Thumbs up my man!

12 September 2009, 00:38	#16
twizzle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: taunton.som.uk Age: 73 Posts: 681	from a 14yr old i`d say that was pretty impressive , the game play reminds me of titus the fox

13 September 2009, 20:02	#17
Boom^ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Estepona, Spain Posts: 38	Thats really awesome. I made some games on the amiga too when i was 14 and that looks a lot better than what I managed to come up with!

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