Amiga OS 3.5 install problems

AliasXZ · 30 April 2008, 22:40

Hey

I just ran the 3.1 install off the 3,5 cd, went through fine, next is the pre-install, i try torun it and press proceed but absoloutley nothing happens, is there a known issue with installing os 3.5?

cheers for help

EDIT

since the preinstall doesnt work, does anyone know the files the preinstall copies?? (it isnt many)

Maybe I could put them over manually then run the full installer?

thomas · 30 April 2008, 23:45

OS 3.5 needs Kickstart 3.1. "Nothing" usually happens if your Amiga only has Kick 3.0.

Manual installation won't help, 3.5 does not run with Kickstart 3.0.

AliasXZ · 01 May 2008, 00:07

sorry i forgot to say:

my a1200 is an escom with 3.1 as far as i know

how would i check?

EDIT

they are 3.0.... sorry thought i had 3.1 as this is an escom 1200... nevermind, bought them off amigakit

TheCorfiot · 01 May 2008, 11:06

@Alias

Glad to see you are getting there one step at a time, If you have the 3.1 ROM image, you can get your HD setup via WinUAE with OS3.5 as mentioned in a previous thread ready to pop into your A1200 when your ROMS arrive.
Install any other utilities such as WHDLoad with WinUAE as well without having to transfer to floppy.

musashi5150 · 01 May 2008, 11:40

You've got an Escom A1200 with kick 3.0?? I've never seen that before... maybe a previous owner swapped the chips out

TheCorfiot · 01 May 2008, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

You've got an Escom A1200 with kick 3.0?? I've never seen that before... maybe a previous owner swapped the chips out

Yeah I wondered that but didn't want to say...

AliasXZ · 01 May 2008, 15:53

well thats the thing, I have the escom reinstallation (all copies) disks, but that doesn't mean it is an escom 1200, maybe it's an original one and someone lost the original 1200 floppies and copied the escom ones off someone else??

I take it the badge underneath would of been different on the later escoms? IE not saying commodore but Escom? (maybe not)

installing through UAE isn't really an option for me, my Linux machine wont recognise the drive because of the RDB, I was going to use amigafdisk and fill it with zero's, but I like messing around so it'll be wiring up my cdrom and installing my network adapter

Graham Humphrey · 01 May 2008, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliasXZ

I take it the badge underneath would of been different on the later escoms? IE not saying commodore but Escom? (maybe not)

I'd assume that if it doesn't say Commodore on it it's not a Commodore machine...

musashi5150 · 02 May 2008, 09:25

The badge on the top will be the 'new style' AMiGA logo in black and red if it's an Escom shell. As Graham said if there is a C= logo on the top then it isn't.

AliasXZ · 02 May 2008, 19:02

ok... after the pre-install the display is messed up?

Very weird stuff! Anyone know whats wrong?
I literally rebooted after the pre-install

TheCorfiot · 02 May 2008, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliasXZ

ok... after the pre-install the display is messed up?

Very weird stuff! Anyone know whats wrong?
I literally rebooted after the pre-install

Expand a little, In what way messed up

AliasXZ · 02 May 2008, 19:34

sorry

it boots I think, but I cant see it, white lines moving up the screen as if the tv isnt tuned in properly, but it isn't going through an RF, its through the yellow comp port, I tried editing my startup-seq with SKIPROMMODULES scsi.device but I kept getting "not enough arguments"

EDIT

Just formatted back to 3.0, updated to 3.1, then did preinstalled 3.5 and its done same thing again this is really weird, anyone else ever seen this before? heres a pic:

here

appologies for slow load time and thanks for any help

EDIT

I noticed on startup the Amiga crashes (flashing power light, one flash? not a crash?) then restarts, then i get the above, maybe its the 3.1 roms i installed?

TheCorfiot · 02 May 2008, 21:40

& WB3.1 Installed runs fine....

Wierd I have not seen that before, Do you have an accelerator fitted which may need it's firmware upgraded,

You do have FastRAM installed if so how? standalone or with an Accelerator..

Sorry can't be more help at the moment.

AliasXZ · 02 May 2008, 21:44

yup, 3.1 went through fine
I have the blizzard mk3 installed with 16mb fastram, i tried removing it, same thing happened.

Its really strange, i plugged the ami into my LCD, i could see workbench but it was very messed up, like a half and half view while at the same time looking as if it wasn't tuned in

TheCorfiot · 02 May 2008, 22:00

OK just to be sure, Connect you Accelerator, and boot the ami from WB3.1 Floppy.

Access the HD and look for the DEVS folder, inside that folder should be a folder called Monitors, make sure the only file in there is the "PAL" monitor type, if not copy it over from the 3.1 storage floppy /Monitors.
Then Reboot OS3.5

Thats all that comes to mind at the moment.

Good luck

twizzle · 02 May 2008, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliasXZ

I tried editing my startup-seq with SKIPROMMODULES scsi.device but I kept getting "not enough arguments"

I noticed on startup the Amiga crashes (flashing power light, one flash? not a crash?) then restarts, then i get the above, maybe its the 3.1 roms i installed?

hi
in your startup sequence, it should look like this if you have a fast ata with OS3.5

C:SetPatch QUIET SKIPROMUPDATES scsi.device
C:CheckLMB
IF WARN
SYS:Prefs/ATA3Prefs
ENDIF
C:ATA3.driver QUIET

did you make sure that your 3.1 roms are fitted correctly ?
391774-01 top
391773-01 bottom and you have 2 vacant holes on your left ?

AliasXZ · 02 May 2008, 23:10

the kickstarts seem to be in fine
im gona try this tomorrow, got a right headache with it tbh

EDIT

Im beginning to think my Amiga has some sort of fault, didthe update to 3.1 and the same thing has happened...
I'm gona test with using 3.0 for now and see how things go

thanks for replies

EDIT

Ive got myself another CF card, so Im gona try the install tonight...

AliasXZ · 29 June 2008, 19:51

sorry for reviving an old thread but i got os35 working
Booted from workbench31 disk then deleted every monitor in Devs/Monitors except PAL, now boots up fine

alphonsus · 29 June 2008, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliasXZ

sorry
I noticed on startup the Amiga crashes (flashing power light, one flash? not a crash?) then restarts, then i get the above, maybe its the 3.1 roms i installed?

This is normal under 3.5/3.9. It happens when setpatch loads the ROMupdate file and ptches kickstart.

30 June 2008, 06:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliasXZ

sorry for reviving an old thread but i got os35 working
Booted from workbench31 disk then deleted every monitor in Devs/Monitors except PAL, now boots up fine

I was gonna add, try removing all the monitor modes from DEVS/MONITORS and reboot. I had this problem with MUI on my a1200 as it runs through the RGB-SCART and MUI registration screen loads in DBL-PAL MODE.

Also if the monitor modes are availble, some applications will utilise them, like MUI. However, if your display output is unable to support the resolution you'd best remove the availability of them.

"There's a mushroom in my bedroom, there's a mushrom in my lounge, there's a mushroom in my bathroom, and a lovely fragrance in the air!"

30 April 2008, 22:40	#1
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	Amiga OS 3.5 install problems Hey I just ran the 3.1 install off the 3,5 cd, went through fine, next is the pre-install, i try torun it and press proceed but absoloutley nothing happens, is there a known issue with installing os 3.5? cheers for help EDIT since the preinstall doesnt work, does anyone know the files the preinstall copies?? (it isnt many) Maybe I could put them over manually then run the full installer? Last edited by AliasXZ; 30 April 2008 at 23:08.

01 May 2008, 00:07	#3
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	sorry i forgot to say: my a1200 is an escom with 3.1 as far as i know how would i check? EDIT they are 3.0.... sorry thought i had 3.1 as this is an escom 1200... nevermind, bought them off amigakit Last edited by AliasXZ; 01 May 2008 at 00:12.

02 May 2008, 19:34	#12
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	sorry it boots I think, but I cant see it, white lines moving up the screen as if the tv isnt tuned in properly, but it isn't going through an RF, its through the yellow comp port, I tried editing my startup-seq with SKIPROMMODULES scsi.device but I kept getting "not enough arguments" EDIT Just formatted back to 3.0, updated to 3.1, then did preinstalled 3.5 and its done same thing again this is really weird, anyone else ever seen this before? heres a pic: here appologies for slow load time and thanks for any help EDIT I noticed on startup the Amiga crashes (flashing power light, one flash? not a crash?) then restarts, then i get the above, maybe its the 3.1 roms i installed? Last edited by AliasXZ; 02 May 2008 at 20:32.

02 May 2008, 23:10	#17
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	the kickstarts seem to be in fine im gona try this tomorrow, got a right headache with it tbh EDIT Im beginning to think my Amiga has some sort of fault, didthe update to 3.1 and the same thing has happened... I'm gona test with using 3.0 for now and see how things go thanks for replies EDIT Ive got myself another CF card, so Im gona try the install tonight... Last edited by AliasXZ; 08 May 2008 at 11:17.

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30 April 2008, 23:45	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,002	OS 3.5 needs Kickstart 3.1. "Nothing" usually happens if your Amiga only has Kick 3.0. Manual installation won't help, 3.5 does not run with Kickstart 3.0.

01 May 2008, 11:06	#4
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	@Alias Glad to see you are getting there one step at a time, If you have the 3.1 ROM image, you can get your HD setup via WinUAE with OS3.5 as mentioned in a previous thread ready to pop into your A1200 when your ROMS arrive. Install any other utilities such as WHDLoad with WinUAE as well without having to transfer to floppy.

01 May 2008, 11:40	#5
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	You've got an Escom A1200 with kick 3.0?? I've never seen that before... maybe a previous owner swapped the chips out

01 May 2008, 15:53	#7
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	well thats the thing, I have the escom reinstallation (all copies) disks, but that doesn't mean it is an escom 1200, maybe it's an original one and someone lost the original 1200 floppies and copied the escom ones off someone else?? I take it the badge underneath would of been different on the later escoms? IE not saying commodore but Escom? (maybe not) installing through UAE isn't really an option for me, my Linux machine wont recognise the drive because of the RDB, I was going to use amigafdisk and fill it with zero's, but I like messing around so it'll be wiring up my cdrom and installing my network adapter

02 May 2008, 09:25	#9
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	The badge on the top will be the 'new style' AMiGA logo in black and red if it's an Escom shell. As Graham said if there is a C= logo on the top then it isn't.

02 May 2008, 19:02	#10
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	ok... after the pre-install the display is messed up? Very weird stuff! Anyone know whats wrong? I literally rebooted after the pre-install

02 May 2008, 21:40	#13
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	& WB3.1 Installed runs fine.... Wierd I have not seen that before, Do you have an accelerator fitted which may need it's firmware upgraded, You do have FastRAM installed if so how? standalone or with an Accelerator.. Sorry can't be more help at the moment.

02 May 2008, 21:44	#14
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	yup, 3.1 went through fine I have the blizzard mk3 installed with 16mb fastram, i tried removing it, same thing happened. Its really strange, i plugged the ami into my LCD, i could see workbench but it was very messed up, like a half and half view while at the same time looking as if it wasn't tuned in

02 May 2008, 22:00	#15
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	OK just to be sure, Connect you Accelerator, and boot the ami from WB3.1 Floppy. Access the HD and look for the DEVS folder, inside that folder should be a folder called Monitors, make sure the only file in there is the "PAL" monitor type, if not copy it over from the 3.1 storage floppy /Monitors. Then Reboot OS3.5 Thats all that comes to mind at the moment. Good luck

29 June 2008, 19:51	#18
AliasXZ Guru meditator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, Huddersfield Age: 39 Posts: 166	sorry for reviving an old thread but i got os35 working Booted from workbench31 disk then deleted every monitor in Devs/Monitors except PAL, now boots up fine

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