Gods with sfx & audio tracks - Page 3

Amigajay · 18 September 2018, 23:11

Ill make a new iso tomorrow using isocd and add the intro and post it here and see if that makes a difference or not.

turrican3 · 19 September 2018, 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

And no, I'm not going to replace the intro music by some custom music. Just because the track is perfectly synchronized with the credits visual. Also, this is more work to remove the music play, that would require an option to use cd tracks or not, and I've got more important stuff to do, sorry.

No problem,
I understand that making it run on a real cd32 is well more important.

Thanks for the reply.
I hope it will work on the real thing.

AMIGASYSTEM · 19 September 2018, 12:15

I tried to recreate the ISO with MasterISO also added the "Rock Ridge" extension, but I have not tested the CD on a real CD32 works

jotd · 19 September 2018, 13:51

@AMIGASYSTEM: don't use MasterISO it sucks and fails to work with RN loader. It works with WHDload CDs or OS-compliant games, but not with games using this particular hardware routine. Only ISOCD allows to make working discs.

@Amigajay: good idea. Toni is not replying, maybe it means: "shut up and try it

" I can't wait for the results (and I'll refund each burned CD by adapting one game by wasted CD

)

AMIGASYSTEM · 19 September 2018, 14:52

Thanks for the info jotd, technically i do not know what "RN loader", i have always created my compilations for my two CD32 and I have never had problems, all the CDs burned with my Yamaha SCSI burner have worked perfectly and never thrown a CD.

Amigajay · 19 September 2018, 15:21

I've made a quick new iso using isocd and adding the cdxl intro on Earok's previous disc from a couple of years ago

Tested on quickstart cd32 with and without fastram on winuae 4.01 without problems, of course we need to test on real hw which is the point of a new iso build using isocd instead.

I'm decorating the house atm so i cant until the weekend, but the build is here for anyone who likes to live dangerously!

https://mega.nz/#!Fc9UhYAY!yjjdBf6X5...7UcoungAca0t1w

Mrz · 19 September 2018, 17:06

ISOCD is the best and easy tool to create isos for the cd32
you can choose there the boot files: cd32.tm or CDTV.tm
I recommend always use CDTV.tm because the iso boot faster in the CD32 and is compatible with CDTV

jotd · 19 September 2018, 18:15

CDTV.TM will work with this setup. AFAIR don't use it when you're relying on AGA being set by the system. CD32 ROM disables the caches & AGA IIRC.

@Amigajay the suspense is unbearable

AMIGASYSTEM · 19 September 2018, 18:33

@Mrz
Excluding the problem "RN loader", even MasteISO allows you to choose CDTV.TM or CDTV.TM, it can also add extensions Rock Ridge end Joiliet and make the CD compatible on any platform.

jotd · 19 September 2018, 20:09

yes, the OS can read those discs, but CDs created with ISOCD can be read by OS and RN loader. So this is unusable for CD32load

Mrz · 19 September 2018, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

CDTV.TM will work with this setup. AFAIR don't use it when you're relying on AGA being set by the system. CD32 ROM disables the caches & AGA IIRC.

right, CTDV.tm turns off caches+aga but I think you could activate them if you add "setpatch" in the startup-sequence

jotd · 19 September 2018, 20:52

yes, you can reenable it. It's designed so CDTV titles (which may not be 680EC20/AGA compatible) work with CD32.

TjLaZer · 20 September 2018, 07:28

I get the red screen of death on real NTSC CD32.

wairnair · 25 September 2018, 10:06

Tried it under macOs 10.3, FS-UAE, stock cd32 settings (2MB chip only).
Title comes up with music, crashes while loading first level. Leaves a greenish bar on the bottom of screen.

jotd · 25 September 2018, 16:51

FS-UAE isn't ready to support CD audio + CD data fully. Only recent WinUAE allow to make it work.

wairnair · 26 September 2018, 10:24

cd audio does actually work nicely for Shadow Fighter, but I've certainly not a lot of experience with fs-uae to comment in general. will give it a shot under Windows as well. thanks for your time putting the disc together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

FS-UAE isn't ready to support CD audio + CD data fully. Only recent WinUAE allow to make it work.

jotd · 26 September 2018, 13:58

Shadow Fighter uses ROM CD playing routines. That would explain a lot.

Toni Wilen · 26 September 2018, 14:16

CD routines in all existing CD32 games do work fine, this is the only special case, it uses Akiko non-DMA feature that enables very simple way to play CDs.

Fix should be almost as simple as copying winuae's akiko.cpp over fs-uae's version and recompiling.

jotd · 04 November 2018, 23:07

Check dropbox link again: tested on real unexpanded hardware and works like a charm

Amigajay · 04 November 2018, 23:19

Great work JOTD!

19 September 2018, 12:15	#43
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	I tried to recreate the ISO with MasterISO also added the "Rock Ridge" extension, but I have not tested the CD on a real CD32 works Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 04 November 2018 at 23:09.

19 September 2018, 18:33	#49
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	@Mrz Excluding the problem "RN loader", even MasteISO allows you to choose CDTV.TM or CDTV.TM, it can also add extensions Rock Ridge end Joiliet and make the CD compatible on any platform. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 21 September 2018 at 08:14.

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18 September 2018, 23:11	#41
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,881	Ill make a new iso tomorrow using isocd and add the intro and post it here and see if that makes a difference or not.

19 September 2018, 13:51	#44
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	@AMIGASYSTEM: don't use MasterISO it sucks and fails to work with RN loader. It works with WHDload CDs or OS-compliant games, but not with games using this particular hardware routine. Only ISOCD allows to make working discs. @Amigajay: good idea. Toni is not replying, maybe it means: "shut up and try it " I can't wait for the results (and I'll refund each burned CD by adapting one game by wasted CD )

19 September 2018, 14:52	#45
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Thanks for the info jotd, technically i do not know what "RN loader", i have always created my compilations for my two CD32 and I have never had problems, all the CDs burned with my Yamaha SCSI burner have worked perfectly and never thrown a CD.

19 September 2018, 15:21	#46
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,881	I've made a quick new iso using isocd and adding the cdxl intro on Earok's previous disc from a couple of years ago Tested on quickstart cd32 with and without fastram on winuae 4.01 without problems, of course we need to test on real hw which is the point of a new iso build using isocd instead. I'm decorating the house atm so i cant until the weekend, but the build is here for anyone who likes to live dangerously! https://mega.nz/#!Fc9UhYAY!yjjdBf6X5...7UcoungAca0t1w

19 September 2018, 17:06	#47
Mrz Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: I Posts: 338	ISOCD is the best and easy tool to create isos for the cd32 you can choose there the boot files: cd32.tm or CDTV.tm I recommend always use CDTV.tm because the iso boot faster in the CD32 and is compatible with CDTV

19 September 2018, 18:15	#48
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	CDTV.TM will work with this setup. AFAIR don't use it when you're relying on AGA being set by the system. CD32 ROM disables the caches & AGA IIRC. @Amigajay the suspense is unbearable

19 September 2018, 20:09	#50
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	yes, the OS can read those discs, but CDs created with ISOCD can be read by OS and RN loader. So this is unusable for CD32load

19 September 2018, 20:52	#52
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	yes, you can reenable it. It's designed so CDTV titles (which may not be 680EC20/AGA compatible) work with CD32.

20 September 2018, 07:28	#53
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	I get the red screen of death on real NTSC CD32.

25 September 2018, 10:06	#54
wairnair Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Budapest Posts: 355	Tried it under macOs 10.3, FS-UAE, stock cd32 settings (2MB chip only). Title comes up with music, crashes while loading first level. Leaves a greenish bar on the bottom of screen.

25 September 2018, 16:51	#55
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	FS-UAE isn't ready to support CD audio + CD data fully. Only recent WinUAE allow to make it work.

26 September 2018, 13:58	#57
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	Shadow Fighter uses ROM CD playing routines. That would explain a lot.

26 September 2018, 14:16	#58
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	CD routines in all existing CD32 games do work fine, this is the only special case, it uses Akiko non-DMA feature that enables very simple way to play CDs. Fix should be almost as simple as copying winuae's akiko.cpp over fs-uae's version and recompiling.

04 November 2018, 23:07	#59
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	Check dropbox link again: tested on real unexpanded hardware and works like a charm

04 November 2018, 23:19	#60
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,881	Great work JOTD!

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