Legacy RPG demo - Page 4

BSzili · 20 February 2020, 22:31

It's interesting indeed. Thinking back I should have been smarter early on, to have some leverage, but back then I was all to happy to work on the port. I also feel kind of bad for raining on people's parade here, so I'll probably stick for more technical topics until 2021

manossg · 20 February 2020, 23:00

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Originally Posted by BSzili

It's interesting indeed. Thinking back I should have been smarter early on, to have some leverage, but back then I was all to happy to work on the port. I also feel kind of bad for raining on people's parade here, so I'll probably stick for more technical topics until 2021

With the quality of your work, I believe you should just do your own, original stuff.

DamienD · 20 February 2020, 23:24

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Originally Posted by manossg

With the quality of your work, I believe you should just do your own, original stuff.

BSzili is porting existing games to the Amiga from various other systems; which indeed takes some skill.

...but creating your own games; i.e. the engine / graphics / soundfx / music etc. is in a totally different league.

I'm not saying BSzili couldn't do this; but it's a way longer process.

manossg · 20 February 2020, 23:38

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Originally Posted by DamienD

BSzili is porting existing games to the Amiga from various other systems; which indeed takes some skill.

...but creating your own games; i.e. the engine / graphics / soundfx / music etc. is in a totally different league.

I'm not saying BSzili couldn't do this; but it's a way longer process.

I didn't mean that he would have to undertake everything himself, but team up with other talented amiga people. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Pyromania · 21 February 2020, 00:17

BSzili games would rock!

BSzili · 21 February 2020, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

BSzili is porting existing games to the Amiga from various other systems; which indeed takes some skill.

...but creating your own games; i.e. the engine / graphics / soundfx / music etc. is in a totally different league.

I'm not saying BSzili couldn't do this; but it's a way longer process.

That is very true, doing your own game from scratch takes orders of magnitude more time, and I'm not very skilled at low-level hardware programming. I also just like to take apart other people's stuff, and learn from it. That being said one day I'll definitely make a perspective puzzle game similar to Fez, which is one of my all time favorites.

Enough off topic from me, back to Legacy. For those who are hopelessly lost, I uploaded an online map for the game, it's in the FAQ of the first post. I still recommend to take your time, since the demo is not very long

Solo Kazuki · 21 February 2020, 08:12

Since i finished demo i just peek on maps for demo (level 1) and found that on Dungeon of N'Gora map button to switch off fireball trap is not present. It's north-west from pressure plate on wall in first niche to north.

BSzili · 21 February 2020, 08:35

Hmm, could you show the square on the map, where it's supposed to be? I'll check it with the map editor too.
edit: Ok, I think I've found it. Is it this one?

Solo Kazuki · 21 February 2020, 09:48

Yep, that one. You may not leave anything on plate to deactivate trap.

BSzili · 21 February 2020, 10:01

Thanks, I added it to the map. Let me know if you find anything missing/incorrect.

BSzili · 24 February 2020, 11:04

Kazuki gave me the idea of cross referencing these maps with the map editor, so I added a bunch of missing items to "Level 1", which corresponds to the playable city in the demo.

Solo Kazuki · 17 September 2020, 13:11

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Originally Posted by BSzili

Don't ask me, but if I were you I'd keep my expectations low.

Some time has passed and still nothing more is known. Could You ask Inked Pixel Software if they fit in Q4 of 2020? Thanks a lot in advance.

BSzili · 17 September 2020, 22:29

I'm no longer in contact with them, but you can try to ask via their Facebook page or website.

Solo Kazuki · 31 December 2020, 09:29

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Originally Posted by BSzili

I'm no longer in contact with them, but you can try to ask via their Facebook page or website.

Because You were sceptic, game is not released in this year. It's Your fault!

But seriously, that's not good sign about Legacy release delaying. I know You're not involved in game case now, but maybe You can try to ask about release again? Maybe something changed since last time?

Hope game didn't go to GTW...

BSzili · 31 December 2020, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Because You were sceptic, game is not released in this year. It's Your fault!

But seriously, that's not good sign about Legacy release delaying. I know You're not involved in game case now, but maybe You can try to ask about release again? Maybe something changed since last time?

Hope game didn't go to GTW...

I wasn't skeptical as much as realistic based on my past experience with them. As I said, the rights of the Amgia version already changed hands by the time I did the port, so this wasn't the case of "a new hope", just another announcement from the owners of the Amiga version. This is why I tried to warn people not to get their hopes up.

I honestly don't see the point of asking them about the release. If you would like you can ask (I can give you more direct contacts in a PM), but I'm 99% sure there was no work done on the game, as I still have access to the source repository.

I hope now you understand why I wanted to purchase the rights so I can release the full version of the Amiga port. In the end I offered them all the revenue too, but alas they didn't accept. At least I could release a limited demo, so it's not completely GTW

astuermer · 15 August 2022, 02:28

From what I read the game has been announced back in 2020… ??
Is it already available to buy?

I created some level sets back in 2007 at Handango for Legacy.
Wondered if they work on this version too.

BSzili · 15 August 2022, 06:22

It was first announced in 2018, but I can hardly imagine any work has been done on getting it finally published. The "new" announcement was a reaction of me publishing the demo as a parting gift.
All the PDA expansions are technically compatible, but I don't think you can play them in the demo because you can't leave the first city.

astuermer · 15 August 2022, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSzili

It was first announced in 2018, but I can hardly imagine any work has been done on getting it finally published. The "new" announcement was a reaction of me publishing the demo as a parting gift.
All the PDA expansions are technically compatible, but I don't think you can play them in the demo because you can't leave the first city.

Is there an updated demo link?
The one in your first post seems to be dead.
I wanted to try my old expansion for the game.
Thanks

TCD · 15 August 2022, 11:25

Download in the first post works for me. I've uploaded it to the zone.

astuermer · 15 August 2022, 11:30

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Originally Posted by TCD

Download in the first post works for me. I've uploaded it to the zone.

Thank you!

Btw download from first post always gives me „invalid certificate“ on Chrome / Windows 11.

21 February 2020, 08:35	#68
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	Hmm, could you show the square on the map, where it's supposed to be? I'll check it with the map editor too. edit: Ok, I think I've found it. Is it this one? Last edited by BSzili; 21 February 2020 at 08:56.

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20 February 2020, 22:31	#61
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	It's interesting indeed. Thinking back I should have been smarter early on, to have some leverage, but back then I was all to happy to work on the port. I also feel kind of bad for raining on people's parade here, so I'll probably stick for more technical topics until 2021

21 February 2020, 00:17	#65
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	BSzili games would rock!

21 February 2020, 08:12	#67
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	Since i finished demo i just peek on maps for demo (level 1) and found that on Dungeon of N'Gora map button to switch off fireball trap is not present. It's north-west from pressure plate on wall in first niche to north.

21 February 2020, 09:48	#69
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	Yep, that one. You may not leave anything on plate to deactivate trap.

21 February 2020, 10:01	#70
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	Thanks, I added it to the map. Let me know if you find anything missing/incorrect.

24 February 2020, 11:04	#71
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	Kazuki gave me the idea of cross referencing these maps with the map editor, so I added a bunch of missing items to "Level 1", which corresponds to the playable city in the demo.

17 September 2020, 22:29	#73
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	I'm no longer in contact with them, but you can try to ask via their Facebook page or website.

15 August 2022, 02:28	#76
astuermer Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austria Age: 45 Posts: 117	From what I read the game has been announced back in 2020… ?? Is it already available to buy? I created some level sets back in 2007 at Handango for Legacy. Wondered if they work on this version too.

15 August 2022, 06:22	#77
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	It was first announced in 2018, but I can hardly imagine any work has been done on getting it finally published. The "new" announcement was a reaction of me publishing the demo as a parting gift. All the PDA expansions are technically compatible, but I don't think you can play them in the demo because you can't leave the first city.

15 August 2022, 11:25	#79
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Download in the first post works for me. I've uploaded it to the zone.

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