SFS Help

Macca · 10 June 2007, 11:36

Sorry for the recent spate of posts I do apologise but this is the last question - honest!

I've basically followed Killer G's guide to format my drive with SFS.

I have a 30GB hard drive. I now have two partitions (System and Work) which are both 4GB.

Is there any way to access the rest of the drive or is that it? If so how?

I'd ideally like to keep my system drive as it is now configured but the second partition can be destroyed.

Cheers,

M.

thomas · 10 June 2007, 12:49

I don't know where "Killer G's guide to format my drive with SFS" is or what it says.

If it describes which software to install in order to use more than 4GB, then I don't see your problem. If you can use 8GB, you can use 30GB as well. Just make sure that the drive geometry is correct.

If the guide does not tell how to use more than 4GB, then you cannot even use your Work partition. All partitions must fit into the first 4GB of the drive.

Macca · 10 June 2007, 13:23

Link to KG's guide:

http://wiki.abime.net/amiga:killergo...winuae_realhdd

Basically a guide to setup a real HD on WinUAE and obviously vice versa.

I am using SFS now so shouldn't that take away the limitations?

M.

thomas · 10 June 2007, 16:44

Quote:

I am using SFS now so shouldn't that take away the limitations?

No, it doesn't. Not alone. SFS can use disks bigger than 4GB if (and only if) the HDD driver supports them. Uaehf.device does, scsi.device (the original IDE driver of the Amiga) doesn't. You need both, a new file system (like SFS) *and* a new HDD driver. For example IDEfix, OS3.5+ or the beta updates from os.amigaworld.de.

Macca · 10 June 2007, 19:31

I do have IDEFix installed - do I need to change something somewhere? Or will IDEFix patch it?

M.

thomas · 10 June 2007, 20:20

Make sure that the boot partition is within the first 4GB of the HDD. Change the call of IDEfix in startup-sequence from C:IDEfix for C:LoadIDE RESET. Run Check4GB from Aminet, it will tell you if everything is correct.

Macca · 10 June 2007, 22:01

Currently have two 4GB partitions so hopefully should be okay!

I may not need the rest of the space but it might be useful just in case - thanks for the advice I'll snag that util now.

Macca · 10 June 2007, 23:36

Just ran the check and it says everything is okay.

Two partitions exactly the same size yet it says one is over the 4GB limit..

So I guess I'm okay for the time being!

M.

Peter · 10 June 2007, 23:50

I have just bought a FastATA MKIII for my Tower project - I have an 80 GIG IDE drive that I am hoping to install... watch this space for a few more questions me thinks...

Macca · 11 June 2007, 08:14

Aye it is confusing.

From experience my advice would be to set it up and format it in an Amiga (using SFS or whatever). If you need to transfer files from a PC I'd do so and put them all on floppies (SFS and IDEFix easily fit on two floppies).

The reason why I say this is that if you use Vista and WinUAE to do it then everytime you try and get SFS to format it will error.

M.

Toni Wilen · 11 June 2007, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca

The reason why I say this is that if you use Vista and WinUAE to do it then everytime you try and get SFS to format it will error.

Ok. Jumping to conclusions and not answering to any of my questions in that other thread. right.

Macca · 11 June 2007, 10:55

Hi Toni

As I had gotten it working I never answered all the questions.

To answer them (and I may as well do it here so that other thread can be closed). Yes following the instructions down to the letter. It wouldn't let me format it on Windows Vista using the latest version of WinUAE however it did let me format it on the same verison of WinUAE on Windows XP so I can only conclude it's the OS that's different.

Yes I have partitioned drives before - but never more than the 4GB limit.

M.

Toni Wilen · 11 June 2007, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca

it wouldn't let me format it on Windows Vista using the latest version of WinUAE however it did let me format it on the same verison of WinUAE on Windows XP so I can only conclude it's the OS that's different.

OS is different, yes. "Full" administrator privileges are needed for direct access (right click on icon, select "run as administrator" and accept UAC prompt if enabled)

Note that 64-bit Vista may not allow direct write access at all without extra drivers (I haven't confirmed but at least boot drive is supposed to be protected)

Perhaps select harddrive dialog should include better messages than "no drives found"-style message.. (even if drives were detected but access was denied)

Macca · 11 June 2007, 21:36

Hi again mate.

The different OS's seem to handle it completley differently.

In Vista I have full access (UAC is disabled by the way) and running as Administrator. Even when it was formatted in Workbench it still said it couldn't access the drive (unless I used the switch). In XP it is just there.

Don't know why though. Definately don't think its down to permissions though.

M.

10 June 2007, 11:36	#1
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	SFS Help Sorry for the recent spate of posts I do apologise but this is the last question - honest! I've basically followed Killer G's guide to format my drive with SFS. I have a 30GB hard drive. I now have two partitions (System and Work) which are both 4GB. Is there any way to access the rest of the drive or is that it? If so how? I'd ideally like to keep my system drive as it is now configured but the second partition can be destroyed. Cheers, M.

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10 June 2007, 12:49	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,999	I don't know where "Killer G's guide to format my drive with SFS" is or what it says. If it describes which software to install in order to use more than 4GB, then I don't see your problem. If you can use 8GB, you can use 30GB as well. Just make sure that the drive geometry is correct. If the guide does not tell how to use more than 4GB, then you cannot even use your Work partition. All partitions must fit into the first 4GB of the drive.

10 June 2007, 13:23	#3
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Link to KG's guide: http://wiki.abime.net/amiga:killergo...winuae_realhdd Basically a guide to setup a real HD on WinUAE and obviously vice versa. I am using SFS now so shouldn't that take away the limitations? M.

10 June 2007, 19:31	#5
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	I do have IDEFix installed - do I need to change something somewhere? Or will IDEFix patch it? M.

10 June 2007, 20:20	#6
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,999	Make sure that the boot partition is within the first 4GB of the HDD. Change the call of IDEfix in startup-sequence from C:IDEfix for C:LoadIDE RESET. Run Check4GB from Aminet, it will tell you if everything is correct.

10 June 2007, 22:01	#7
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Currently have two 4GB partitions so hopefully should be okay! I may not need the rest of the space but it might be useful just in case - thanks for the advice I'll snag that util now.

10 June 2007, 23:36	#8
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Just ran the check and it says everything is okay. Two partitions exactly the same size yet it says one is over the 4GB limit.. So I guess I'm okay for the time being! M.

10 June 2007, 23:50	#9
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	I have just bought a FastATA MKIII for my Tower project - I have an 80 GIG IDE drive that I am hoping to install... watch this space for a few more questions me thinks...

11 June 2007, 08:14	#10
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Aye it is confusing. From experience my advice would be to set it up and format it in an Amiga (using SFS or whatever). If you need to transfer files from a PC I'd do so and put them all on floppies (SFS and IDEFix easily fit on two floppies). The reason why I say this is that if you use Vista and WinUAE to do it then everytime you try and get SFS to format it will error. M.

11 June 2007, 10:55	#12
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Hi Toni As I had gotten it working I never answered all the questions. To answer them (and I may as well do it here so that other thread can be closed). Yes following the instructions down to the letter. It wouldn't let me format it on Windows Vista using the latest version of WinUAE however it did let me format it on the same verison of WinUAE on Windows XP so I can only conclude it's the OS that's different. Yes I have partitioned drives before - but never more than the 4GB limit. M.

11 June 2007, 21:36	#14
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Hi again mate. The different OS's seem to handle it completley differently. In Vista I have full access (UAC is disabled by the way) and running as Administrator. Even when it was formatted in Workbench it still said it couldn't access the drive (unless I used the switch). In XP it is just there. Don't know why though. Definately don't think its down to permissions though. M.

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