Aaaahhhhhh What The Hell Do I Do.

leytond · 31 January 2009, 19:00

well as you may have guesed i am a what they call newb PMSL,
always had a pc never been without one, untill a bright spark said to me HEY TRY THIS AMIGA,
what the hell have i done ,
it is driving me insane.
nearly 2 weaks just to setup a cdrom drive, and things dont get any better,
i have to use a shell,????
the only shells i know of are on the see shore,

HELP.
oohh i have a
,
amiga 1200, apollo1200 8meg, 3.1 roms. os3.1. 80 gig hard drive. and now a liteon dvd cd rom, 17" lcd tv.

is this any good and if so why wont it do anythig,
looks good though. even if it is over 10 years old, oohhh and the motherboard is a rev 1d, what ever that means.

ppill · 31 January 2009, 19:17

Well... what do you want to use the Amiga for? Games?

pjhutch · 31 January 2009, 19:17

When you first boot an amiga, with no floppy or hard disk, it will ask you to insert a disk (usually a bootable floppy disk). The Disk you need is either a game disk or something called Workbench which is Amiga's Operating System (some of it is on a ROM called Kickstart - more advanced than a PC's BIOS rom).

Sounds like you need a Workbench disk, you can get Workbench 3.1 disks and even Workbench 3.9 which is on CDROM (NB: you cannot boot from CDs on the A1200 btw).

More info try my web site:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html

r0jaws · 31 January 2009, 19:44

What is it you are trying to do?

Where would you like to pick up from?
Was the help on A.org HERE no use to you?

Why don't you try installing Vista on it?

leytond · 31 January 2009, 19:46

will it work with vista on it, someone told me it wouldnt work because its an amiga,

TCD · 31 January 2009, 19:55

Erm leytond? What are you planning to do with your A1200?

Oh and no, Vista wont work on it...

leytond · 31 January 2009, 20:00

well i planed to build it into a tower then gave that idia up , have you seen how hard that is, i want to get it working realy, ive solved the lha problem out and got the cd rom going (after nearly 2 weaks) it has os 3.1 on it, but it dosnt seem to do much and talk about basic, is there a media player on , i cant find it if there is,
amiga.org helped me sort out a load of things,
ill say this for it, dam it is fast at booting but that seems to be it,
help would be great.

TCD · 31 January 2009, 20:05

Do you try to use it as your main machine or just for games? It's a bit hard to see how we can help you atm

leytond · 31 January 2009, 20:09

well i wanted to use as my main machine but it wont even connect to my internet,
dont know what ill do with that.
to tell ya the truth i dont think ill be able to do a great deal with it, will i,
what can i use it for ????.
it cant burn cds or dvds, it cant go on the internet,
will it play games and what sort , and were can i get them from, its not like a 360 or a pc is it.
i need help with this,

Retro-Nerd · 31 January 2009, 20:10

Firstable, the Amiga 1200 is an ancient computer from the 90s. If you are searching for a replacement of Windows or Linux, forget it. You can play some old games or watch computer demos, that's all.

Yes, you can use this machine with Amiga OS 3.9 for internet or multimedia stuff, but even the cheapest PC is far superior.

Trolled enough?

leytond · 31 January 2009, 20:11

so it can play movies then, how dose it do this i cant find a media player anyware.

Yoto · 31 January 2009, 20:13

Your joking right?!
Media Player....????
Why dont you use WinUAE instead, no offense mate, it´s better to run a few experiments on WinUAE before you try anything on a real amiga!
Also try this link please!
http://guide.abime.net/home.htm

r0jaws · 31 January 2009, 20:14

Have a browse through the many Amiga based forums and websites and they will give you an idea what this classic can do.

If you think its going to compete with your modern PC you are going to be very disappointed.
There is absolutely no point in making any further comparisons to modern hardware and software it just makes you sound like a windows fanboy posting to wind up the forum members.

If, however, you want to have some retro fun, crack on.

You have persevered so far and installed and managed to get running some things so you must be interested.

TCD · 31 January 2009, 20:14

I almost thought so leytond

Like Retro said you should not use it as a replacement for a PC or Mac when you're not used to it. The main reason is indeed to play old Amiga games on it. I'm sure you can sell it for a reasonable price if you're not into using it as a game machine

leytond · 31 January 2009, 20:17

first is WinUAE an emulator,
i have a real amiga 1200. ????
is it worth setting this amiga up, if i can get software for it,??

leytond · 31 January 2009, 20:20

yes i am very interested but all i get is , ( well sell it then)
i wouldnt have bought the dam dinosoure if i wasnt interested in it,
just thought i might get some help along the way (SORRY)

DoogUK · 31 January 2009, 20:25

BTW, amiga's CAN burn cd's

TCD · 31 January 2009, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by leytond

yes i am very interested but all i get is , ( well sell it then)
i wouldnt have bought the dam dinosoure if i wasnt interested in it,
just thought i might get some help along the way (SORRY)

Either you use it as a retro game computer (get some games and start playing) or you start asking questions like 'How can I play AVI movies with my A1200'. Just make sure you don't expect the machine to replace a modern computer and that you have some spare time and money

Yoto · 31 January 2009, 20:29

Yes laytond WinUAE is an Emulator, that can be used to set things up and then transfer them to a REAL Amiga, the reverse is also an option.
You can connect your amiga HD to your PC and use it under WinUAE.
This will make possible to backup your Workbench and try different configurations until you find the one that better suits you.
By the way it may be just my impression but you forgot to mention what´s the real problem your having here.
In order to help you we need some solid input first...

r0jaws · 31 January 2009, 20:30

The thing is, you appear to have bought an old piece of hardware expecting it to work as a modern PC and then have arrived on 2 forums asking for help with no clear idea what you want or what help you expect to be given.

If you want it to work as your primary computer system, browsing the internet (in more than a limited capacity) and playing modern games and hardware then selling it is the best idea because it will ever do these things.

You will not, without tremendous expense and difficulty be able to get it to do anything a modern rig can do for a fraction of the cost, so ask yourself, why do I want it?

If you are looking at it as a piece of equipment of it's time, want to play some classic games, run a few demos, experiment with the hardware and generally fool around with it, then it'll do that.

If i'ts for modern work then selling it is your best bet as the money you get will probably buy you something that will do what you want.

The Amiga as it is now, is primarily a hobbyists and enthusiasts computer, if you are neither, there doesn't seem much point TBH.

31 January 2009, 19:00	#1
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	Aaaahhhhhh What The Hell Do I Do. well as you may have guesed i am a what they call newb PMSL, always had a pc never been without one, untill a bright spark said to me HEY TRY THIS AMIGA, what the hell have i done , it is driving me insane. nearly 2 weaks just to setup a cdrom drive, and things dont get any better, i have to use a shell,???? the only shells i know of are on the see shore, HELP. oohh i have a , amiga 1200, apollo1200 8meg, 3.1 roms. os3.1. 80 gig hard drive. and now a liteon dvd cd rom, 17" lcd tv. is this any good and if so why wont it do anythig, looks good though. even if it is over 10 years old, oohhh and the motherboard is a rev 1d, what ever that means.

31 January 2009, 19:17	#3
pjhutch Peter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sowerby Bridge,UK Age: 57 Posts: 102	Something missing? When you first boot an amiga, with no floppy or hard disk, it will ask you to insert a disk (usually a bootable floppy disk). The Disk you need is either a game disk or something called Workbench which is Amiga's Operating System (some of it is on a ROM called Kickstart - more advanced than a PC's BIOS rom). Sounds like you need a Workbench disk, you can get Workbench 3.1 disks and even Workbench 3.9 which is on CDROM (NB: you cannot boot from CDs on the A1200 btw). More info try my web site: http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html

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31 January 2009, 19:17	#2
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	Well... what do you want to use the Amiga for? Games?

31 January 2009, 19:44	#4
r0jaws Amibay fanboi Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire Age: 49 Posts: 154	What is it you are trying to do? Where would you like to pick up from? Was the help on A.org HERE no use to you? Why don't you try installing Vista on it?

31 January 2009, 19:46	#5
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	will it work with vista on it, someone told me it wouldnt work because its an amiga,

31 January 2009, 19:55	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	Erm leytond? What are you planning to do with your A1200? Oh and no, Vista wont work on it...

31 January 2009, 20:00	#7
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	well i planed to build it into a tower then gave that idia up , have you seen how hard that is, i want to get it working realy, ive solved the lha problem out and got the cd rom going (after nearly 2 weaks) it has os 3.1 on it, but it dosnt seem to do much and talk about basic, is there a media player on , i cant find it if there is, amiga.org helped me sort out a load of things, ill say this for it, dam it is fast at booting but that seems to be it, help would be great.

31 January 2009, 20:05	#8
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	Do you try to use it as your main machine or just for games? It's a bit hard to see how we can help you atm

31 January 2009, 20:09	#9
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	well i wanted to use as my main machine but it wont even connect to my internet, dont know what ill do with that. to tell ya the truth i dont think ill be able to do a great deal with it, will i, what can i use it for ????. it cant burn cds or dvds, it cant go on the internet, will it play games and what sort , and were can i get them from, its not like a 360 or a pc is it. i need help with this,

31 January 2009, 20:10	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	Firstable, the Amiga 1200 is an ancient computer from the 90s. If you are searching for a replacement of Windows or Linux, forget it. You can play some old games or watch computer demos, that's all. Yes, you can use this machine with Amiga OS 3.9 for internet or multimedia stuff, but even the cheapest PC is far superior. Trolled enough?

31 January 2009, 20:11	#11
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	so it can play movies then, how dose it do this i cant find a media player anyware.

31 January 2009, 20:13	#12
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 48 Posts: 572	Your joking right?! Media Player....???? Why dont you use WinUAE instead, no offense mate, it´s better to run a few experiments on WinUAE before you try anything on a real amiga! Also try this link please! http://guide.abime.net/home.htm

31 January 2009, 20:14	#13
r0jaws Amibay fanboi Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire Age: 49 Posts: 154	Have a browse through the many Amiga based forums and websites and they will give you an idea what this classic can do. If you think its going to compete with your modern PC you are going to be very disappointed. There is absolutely no point in making any further comparisons to modern hardware and software it just makes you sound like a windows fanboy posting to wind up the forum members. If, however, you want to have some retro fun, crack on. You have persevered so far and installed and managed to get running some things so you must be interested.

31 January 2009, 20:14	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	I almost thought so leytond Like Retro said you should not use it as a replacement for a PC or Mac when you're not used to it. The main reason is indeed to play old Amiga games on it. I'm sure you can sell it for a reasonable price if you're not into using it as a game machine

31 January 2009, 20:17	#15
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	first is WinUAE an emulator, i have a real amiga 1200. ???? is it worth setting this amiga up, if i can get software for it,??

31 January 2009, 20:20	#16
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 55 Posts: 700	yes i am very interested but all i get is , ( well sell it then) i wouldnt have bought the dam dinosoure if i wasnt interested in it, just thought i might get some help along the way (SORRY)

31 January 2009, 20:25	#17
DoogUK Doogster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,069	BTW, amiga's CAN burn cd's

31 January 2009, 20:29	#19
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 48 Posts: 572	Yes laytond WinUAE is an Emulator, that can be used to set things up and then transfer them to a REAL Amiga, the reverse is also an option. You can connect your amiga HD to your PC and use it under WinUAE. This will make possible to backup your Workbench and try different configurations until you find the one that better suits you. By the way it may be just my impression but you forgot to mention what´s the real problem your having here. In order to help you we need some solid input first...

31 January 2009, 20:30	#20
r0jaws Amibay fanboi Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire Age: 49 Posts: 154	The thing is, you appear to have bought an old piece of hardware expecting it to work as a modern PC and then have arrived on 2 forums asking for help with no clear idea what you want or what help you expect to be given. If you want it to work as your primary computer system, browsing the internet (in more than a limited capacity) and playing modern games and hardware then selling it is the best idea because it will ever do these things. You will not, without tremendous expense and difficulty be able to get it to do anything a modern rig can do for a fraction of the cost, so ask yourself, why do I want it? If you are looking at it as a piece of equipment of it's time, want to play some classic games, run a few demos, experiment with the hardware and generally fool around with it, then it'll do that. If i'ts for modern work then selling it is your best bet as the money you get will probably buy you something that will do what you want. The Amiga as it is now, is primarily a hobbyists and enthusiasts computer, if you are neither, there doesn't seem much point TBH.

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