Kara Fonts?

Photon · 18 February 2006, 00:56

About 1988 there came a disk or disks with multicolor fonts made by a woman I think, which became classic and were used in a multitude of demos. I think they were called Kara Fonts. Does anyone have this disk or disks and if so, could you upload it/them to the Zone?

I have the urge to use them in another retro-demo, you see.

Photon · 18 February 2006, 19:07

Google really IS my friend!

Found out that Kara died a year ago

She also left her legacy on Cloanto. Found the Kara files at ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/biz/cloan/

Can someone advise on how to get the font characters into an Amiga-readable picture?

I'm having no luck with DPaint4 (it loads the font, changes the palette but you can't put characters on the screen with the A icon). And Colortype won't even start, gurus (I'm emulating an A500 Kick 1.3, tried Kick 2.0, 68020 CPU, more ram etc). Is that program made for Amiga, and which configuration in that case?

Photon · 18 February 2006, 19:17

Read this in the colorfonts readme:

"Publication or distribution of any part of this archive without the
prior written license from Cloanto constitutes acceptance of a licensing
contract and fee to be determined by Cloanto, at a cost in no case lower
than USD 10000.00, payable to Cloanto immediately upon publication or
distribution."

Am I in trouble if I use these fonts?

Why, in that case, do they put the file on a publically accessible ftp server on the internet?

BippyM · 19 February 2006, 02:35

DPaint allows you to use the fonts so just use that and type all the chars

Photon · 19 February 2006, 12:53

If you read above you would have seen that I tried that and it didn't work. You only get like 1 of 3 bitplanes, some of the fonts don't show at all. Remember these are multicolor fonts and not Emerald 10. Tried with both Dpaint 3 and 4.

BippyM · 19 February 2006, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

If you read above you would have seen that I tried that and it didn't work. You only get like 1 of 3 bitplanes, some of the fonts don't show at all. Remember these are multicolor fonts and not Emerald 10. Tried with both Dpaint 3 and 4.

I distinctly remember using Kara fonts with DPaint yrs ago (cannot remember which version).

One version actually ships with some kara fonts!

I'll have a look later if I get time

Photon · 19 February 2006, 22:39

Hmm, weird that I get these errors then. If I had DPaint 2 I'd try them with that, but I don't. Looked it over and everything seems correctly installed, Fonts: is assigned correctly and I've tried starting DPaint both from harddisk and from the boot disk it came on.

It's funny because it all "seems" to work, it lists them, I select one and Show it, only get one bitplane of it, it changes the palette (sometimes), and when I type with it one bitplane comes out. I'm using 32 colors in 320x256.

Btw wasn't there more than one Dpaint 3 version? Maybe I have the wrong one? I have v3.14.

BippyM · 20 February 2006, 03:00

Try a newer version of Dpaint (like 5 maybe) and I'll put DPaint 2 in the zone for ya

Photon · 20 February 2006, 13:32

Is there really a Dpaint 5?

In any case, I tried it with DPaint 2. You have to do it a bit differently there. You load a font dir into a menu and select the font in the menu. Except when I do that, when I am to select a font the screen goes black and when I release the button, the font hasn't changed and there is menu garbage left on the screen.

Photon · 20 February 2006, 13:49

Managed to get a proper-looking menu by dividing the fonts dir into two. Apparently DP2 couldn't handle more fonts than fitted in the menu. Now they are selectable and I can type with them.

BUT STILL ONLY ONE BITPLANE! None of the fonts are multicolor.

And when I selected my third font, I got "task held".

I'm doomed... *sniffle* :'(

BippyM · 20 February 2006, 21:11

Send me some Kara fonts (can't be assed to look) and I'll have a play

Photon · 20 February 2006, 22:13

That's mighty nice of you!

Download link in the 2nd post from the top. I refuse to "distribute" Kara fonts after reading that legalese with USD 10000 penalty (see above)

BippyM · 20 February 2006, 22:17

Use PPaint - tested and works fine

You'll have to load the correct colour palette after loading the font

Photon · 20 February 2006, 23:59

Great! What config are you emulating it under? Mine gurus when starting PPaint :'(

Edit: Got it working with an AGA/68020/2MChip only config. It launched in 640x256, 8 colors. Changed to Lores PAL, 32 colors. Loaded the font palette.

And guess what? STILL ONLY ONE BITPLANE!!

Sigh. Hand me a razor.

BippyM · 21 February 2006, 01:59

Just for you photon

adolescent · 21 February 2006, 02:51

DPaint IV came with sample Kara fonts (on Art Disk #1). So, that one is sure to work.

Photon · 21 February 2006, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Just for you photon

That's a mighty hi res picture there. Is it on a real Amiga or emulated? If emulated, which config?? I have no link from PC to Amiga, so right now I can just emulate.

I'm getting nervous. Maybe it wasn't Kara who made the classic fonts I meant... I uploaded Megaforce Megademo to the Zone, can someone take a look at for example the font used in the loading picture and tell me who made it and where I can get it. Haven't found this font in the collection yet, you see.

BippyM · 21 February 2006, 23:25

It's an emulated OS3.9 setup with picasso96 screenmode

Here is the config and PPaint works

Also I ripped the font from megaforce.. not sure if it is the one your after tho!

Solid Snake · 10 November 2008, 17:56

I have had no success in registering and no luck contacting the administrator of AF.

Has anyone downloaded this file already?

http://www.amigafuture.de/downloads....tail&df_id=679

If so, can you please PM a link where I can download it. Thanks.

zipper · 11 November 2008, 10:03

Coming soon - at least I'm trying to upload. Ok, here, 452 MB:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QSD46DKE

18 February 2006, 19:07	#2
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Google really IS my friend! Found out that Kara died a year ago She also left her legacy on Cloanto. Found the Kara files at ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/biz/cloan/ Can someone advise on how to get the font characters into an Amiga-readable picture? I'm having no luck with DPaint4 (it loads the font, changes the palette but you can't put characters on the screen with the A icon). And Colortype won't even start, gurus (I'm emulating an A500 Kick 1.3, tried Kick 2.0, 68020 CPU, more ram etc). Is that program made for Amiga, and which configuration in that case? Last edited by Photon; 18 February 2006 at 19:13.

20 February 2006, 22:17	#13
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Use PPaint - tested and works fine You'll have to load the correct colour palette after loading the font Last edited by BippyM; 20 February 2006 at 22:24.

20 February 2006, 23:59	#14
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Great! What config are you emulating it under? Mine gurus when starting PPaint :'( Edit: Got it working with an AGA/68020/2MChip only config. It launched in 640x256, 8 colors. Changed to Lores PAL, 32 colors. Loaded the font palette. And guess what? STILL ONLY ONE BITPLANE!! Sigh. Hand me a razor. Last edited by Photon; 21 February 2006 at 00:09.

21 February 2006, 01:59	#15
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Just for you photon Last edited by BippyM; 02 November 2008 at 13:50.

21 February 2006, 23:25	#18
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	It's an emulated OS3.9 setup with picasso96 screenmode Here is the config and PPaint works Also I ripped the font from megaforce.. not sure if it is the one your after tho! Last edited by BippyM; 02 November 2008 at 13:50.

18 February 2006, 00:56	#1
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Kara Fonts? About 1988 there came a disk or disks with multicolor fonts made by a woman I think, which became classic and were used in a multitude of demos. I think they were called Kara Fonts. Does anyone have this disk or disks and if so, could you upload it/them to the Zone? I have the urge to use them in another retro-demo, you see.

18 February 2006, 19:17	#3
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Read this in the colorfonts readme: "Publication or distribution of any part of this archive without the prior written license from Cloanto constitutes acceptance of a licensing contract and fee to be determined by Cloanto, at a cost in no case lower than USD 10000.00, payable to Cloanto immediately upon publication or distribution." Am I in trouble if I use these fonts? Why, in that case, do they put the file on a publically accessible ftp server on the internet?

19 February 2006, 02:35	#4
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	DPaint allows you to use the fonts so just use that and type all the chars

19 February 2006, 12:53	#5
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	If you read above you would have seen that I tried that and it didn't work. You only get like 1 of 3 bitplanes, some of the fonts don't show at all. Remember these are multicolor fonts and not Emerald 10. Tried with both Dpaint 3 and 4.

19 February 2006, 22:39	#7
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Hmm, weird that I get these errors then. If I had DPaint 2 I'd try them with that, but I don't. Looked it over and everything seems correctly installed, Fonts: is assigned correctly and I've tried starting DPaint both from harddisk and from the boot disk it came on. It's funny because it all "seems" to work, it lists them, I select one and Show it, only get one bitplane of it, it changes the palette (sometimes), and when I type with it one bitplane comes out. I'm using 32 colors in 320x256. Btw wasn't there more than one Dpaint 3 version? Maybe I have the wrong one? I have v3.14.

20 February 2006, 03:00	#8
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Try a newer version of Dpaint (like 5 maybe) and I'll put DPaint 2 in the zone for ya

20 February 2006, 13:32	#9
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Is there really a Dpaint 5? In any case, I tried it with DPaint 2. You have to do it a bit differently there. You load a font dir into a menu and select the font in the menu. Except when I do that, when I am to select a font the screen goes black and when I release the button, the font hasn't changed and there is menu garbage left on the screen.

20 February 2006, 13:49	#10
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Managed to get a proper-looking menu by dividing the fonts dir into two. Apparently DP2 couldn't handle more fonts than fitted in the menu. Now they are selectable and I can type with them. BUT STILL ONLY ONE BITPLANE! None of the fonts are multicolor. And when I selected my third font, I got "task held". I'm doomed... sniffle :'(

20 February 2006, 21:11	#11
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Send me some Kara fonts (can't be assed to look) and I'll have a play

20 February 2006, 22:13	#12
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	That's mighty nice of you! Download link in the 2nd post from the top. I refuse to "distribute" Kara fonts after reading that legalese with USD 10000 penalty (see above)

21 February 2006, 02:51	#16
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	DPaint IV came with sample Kara fonts (on Art Disk #1). So, that one is sure to work.

10 November 2008, 17:56	#19
Solid Snake Wonderful World Of Amiga Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 359	Kara Collection CD I have had no success in registering and no luck contacting the administrator of AF. Has anyone downloaded this file already? http://www.amigafuture.de/downloads....tail&df_id=679 If so, can you please PM a link where I can download it. Thanks.

11 November 2008, 10:03	#20
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	Coming soon - at least I'm trying to upload. Ok, here, 452 MB: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QSD46DKE Last edited by zipper; 11 November 2008 at 11:01.

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