a typical german amiga meeting

[Ratte]

I think it is the same everywhere, people are sitting around and build there own turbocards, didnt you?

[Ratte]

pictures by boingmax and tommysammy


http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...69%26page%3D21



Jens came in for a short aca500-testrun on the a1000-rejuvenator (fullecs).

[Lord Aga]

So very cool
Thanks for the pics Ratte !

[Ratte]

Workshop cpu-card "protein" for A500/2000
68000/68010 @ 7 & 14 MHz
8 MB FastMem
Clockport
IDE (A600 compatible)

1020 Dhrystones / A600 factor = 1.92 / SysInfo-rating: Excellent!


concept by botfixer
pcb-design by crasbe

[Loedown]

That single picture poses so many questions.

If that card was put into an A2000 with GVP '030 Combo and you disable the accelerator will it still work? Does the IDE port give a standard access to 2 devices ( master / slave )? How does one go about updating the firmware ( if that is indeed the correct term for FPGA ) or is it flashing the core?

What price is being mooted?

What's the availability of the card?

Is it available as a kit or assembled or both?

I promise you will have the slobbering hordes after you Ratte

[Jope]

If you have something in the A2000 CPU slot, then boards that fit under the 68000 are usually disabled when the CPU slot accelerator is active.

[Loedown]

Originally Posted by Jope

If you have something in the A2000 CPU slot, then boards that fit under the 68000 are usually disabled when the CPU slot accelerator is active.

The GVP boards have a fallback to 68000 mode and there's no 68000 on the GVP card itself, it also stops you from having access to the GVP SCSI interface which is further evidence of that.

[Retrofan]

Here there is a radio interview about the protein turbocard, but my german is very very poor :

http://www.podcastdirectory.com/epis...-22707072.html

[Loedown]

Mine is even worse, does anyone have contact details for Botfixer?

[Retrofan]

You can find him at A1k if you register there. This is his thread with google translator:

Thread: http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10612

Google translator: http://translate.google.com/translat...rotein&act=url

[Jope]

Originally Posted by Loedown

The GVP boards have a fallback to 68000 mode and there's no 68000 on the GVP card itself, it also stops you from having access to the GVP SCSI interface which is further evidence of that.

Yep.. So basically it's having the GVP turbo active = no cpu socket turbo / ide or GVP off = cpu socket turbo / ide is visible. There might be some surprises though in case some parts of the GVP card are still visible in the address space.

Originally Posted by Loedown

That single picture poses so many questions.

If that card was put into an A2000 with GVP '030 Combo and you disable the accelerator will it still work? Does the IDE port give a standard access to 2 devices ( master / slave )? How does one go about updating the firmware ( if that is indeed the correct term for FPGA ) or is it flashing the core?

What price is being mooted?

What's the availability of the card?

Is it available as a kit or assembled or both?

I promise you will have the slobbering hordes after you Ratte

As one of the crazy soldering men, I have the Protein now and try to answer:
Price: 60 Euro for all parts including programmer adapter.
Availability: Some kind of GNU Public License. Schematics will soon be available, but botfixer wanted to have some knowledge transferrers first. You can reprogram each CPLD (Logic, RAM, IDE) with the adapter. That's why the seminar took place in Krefeld.
Master/Slave possible, like in an A600. I have some problems with scsi.device 43.45 (booted only once), but 40.12 works well. You will have to solder your own one. A2000 works, don't know if it works with deactivated GVP.
No slobbering, please, try to solder your own baby.

[TroelsDK]

Very cool!

[Loedown]

Originally Posted by commodor

As one of the crazy soldering men, I have the Protein now and try to answer:
Price: 60 Euro for all parts including programmer adapter.
Availability: Some kind of GNU Public License. Schematics will soon be available, but botfixer wanted to have some knowledge transferrers first. You can reprogram each CPLD (Logic, RAM, IDE) with the adapter. That's why the seminar took place in Krefeld.
Master/Slave possible, like in an A600. I have some problems with scsi.device 43.45 (booted only once), but 40.12 works well. You will have to solder your own one. A2000 works, don't know if it works with deactivated GVP.
No slobbering, please, try to solder your own baby.

Thanks Commodor for all the answers. The only other question I would ask is about the programmer for the CPLD, is it some form of USB programmer or serial / parallel? I would be happy to test this card on my A2000 and see if it does actually work in harmony with an installed GVP, mine has the full compliment of ram on the card so that would be even more interesting.

I see there are 3 CPLD on the card, does this mean that each CPLD is responsible for one function, one for Logic, one for Ram and one for IDE?

Please tell Botfixer that it looks like an awesome card.

[Loedown]

Originally Posted by Jope

Yep.. So basically it's having the GVP turbo active = no cpu socket turbo / ide or GVP off = cpu socket turbo / ide is visible. There might be some surprises though in case some parts of the GVP card are still visible in the address space.

The card does appear to vanish completely when disabled, CPU and Ram, but I understand what you mean.

[Retrofan]

I love the photos and although I don't have the hardware to use it I would have liked to be there. I thought german meetings were always with beer, sausages and listening polkas... (no complain about the first two) . Nice meeting, nice solution, "make it yourself".... and Internal

[Ratte]

my favorit picture ... amiga meeting or schoolboys



Some people came from far far away ... record 900 km (one way)!!!

Here is a little review by botfixer (ms-translated):
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...ostcount%3D441

btw. the pcb is designed by crasbe a 15year old schoolboy, he joined the a1k-community in 2011.

[Ratte]

@Leodown: the programmer is par.port

[Ratte]

more new pictures:
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.ph...&postcount=452

attached:
botfixer doing some electronic lessons

bubbob42 (boards.library) soldering ...
(btw. the card is doing autoconfig and "surprise" is supported by boards.lib)

some other ?known? visitors:
mr.vince (kryoflux), boingmax & mcfly (boingsworld-podcast), jens schoenfeld (individual computers), boing4000 (minimig-supporter), kronos (mos-coder/steamdraw), axel knabe (mos,reseller), kneteknut (hd-floppyfix)

Originally Posted by Loedown

The only other question I would ask is about the programmer for the CPLD, is it some form of USB programmer or serial / parallel? I would be happy to test this card on my A2000 and see if it does actually work in harmony with an installed GVP, mine has the full compliment of ram on the card so that would be even more interesting.

I see there are 3 CPLD on the card, does this mean that each CPLD is responsible for one function, one for Logic, one for Ram and one for IDE?

The programmer is parallel. There was a small bug on the programmer board, but it was easy to fix by changing line 3 and 4 of the cable. The CPLDs are seperate, because one purpose of the protein is also to learn how a turboboard works. It is possible to put everything in one CPLD, but then everything is more complicated.

In an A500 the protein does not work properly with other extensions. We tested Action Replay and the AlfaData Controller. Nothing works with the protein, maybe only in fallback-mode. Today I got master and slave CF-card working. CF.device works properly. It was hard to set it up!