SPS (CAPS) miss list - Page 17

haynor666 · 29 January 2019, 08:25

List updated but fix dat still it's not.

For a Vulcan games I've made also raw dumps several years ago but we all know why IPF has not been released so far.

BarryB · 29 January 2019, 12:10

Seems bizarre that 'non duplicated' games are not considered preserving as IPF just because they were 'copied' not 'professionally' duplicated, but if that's how the game was distributed originally then it should be preserved!

DamienD · 29 January 2019, 13:18

Agreed

Tweeky · 29 January 2019, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Dump of Insects in Space sent to Denis and Official IPF InsectsInSpace_829.zip now in The Zone!

Thanks Denis

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Burnout sent as well. The disks are not duplicated and unmodified.

Thanks both

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Agreed

+1

BarryB · 29 January 2019, 18:20

At least we have 'temporary' IPF's from Denis, unfortunatley those can't be shared until they are made 'official' by IFW or whoever OK's the dumps for preservation as IPF!

Supamax · 30 January 2019, 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Your timekeeper copy is unmodified but it's not duplicated.

Hi Denis,
what do you mean with "not duplicated"?

dlfrsilver · 30 January 2019, 07:55

Not mastered with an industrial machine.

DamienD · 30 January 2019, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Not mastered with an industrial machine.

So what? As BarryB has said; that's how the games were originally distributed by the publisher / developer; there's no getting around this.

SPS team need to change their rules and allow games that fit this criiteria

It's absolute madness currently...

BarryB · 30 January 2019, 12:34

@Denis: Did you say once that you analyser only recognises dumps from 'Trace' machines as being duplicated and that a disk 'could' have been duplicated commercially but on another system that's not supported in the analyser yet? That's why disks sometimes shows as 'not duplicated' like most Dinamic releases?

I think you've mentioned your analyser does show if a disk has been 'copied' on a consumer drive so is this the case with Timekeepers, copied on an Amiga then boxed and sold?

@DamienD: I guess this is why most commercial shareware/licenceware disks will never make it as 'official IPF?

Don_Adan · 30 January 2019, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

So what? As BarryB has said; that's how the games were originally distributed by the publisher / developer; there's no getting around this.

SPS team need to change their rules and allow games that fit this criiteria

It's absolute madness currently...

Right this is not PRESERVATION, but only PSEUDOPRESERVATION. In Poland perhaps all (or maybe almost all) games/programs was copied only. Even with trackdisk protections.

Arnie · 30 January 2019, 13:49

Seems strange to me that only one Vulcan game was accepted by the SPS team. And it was the second in the series.

Don_Adan · 30 January 2019, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Seems strange to me that only one Vulcan game was accepted by the SPS team. And it was the second in the series.

More strange for me is why Snow Bros was preserved? Was not mastered with industrial machine. Cant be official IPF, because break the rules. Yes, it was master copy. But copied Amiga DOS games without trackdisk protection are also master copy. All unmodified Amiga DOS games are master copy.

BarryB · 30 January 2019, 15:31

Problem is we have no idea what 'state' the current SPS team are at, have they created more official IPF's since the last update (if so which platform and titles) but haven't yet updated their online Games database or is the project just stagnating?

We need some transparency and honesty about what state SPS is in, they keep saying it's a 'hobby' project and only 'pro' licences fund development but then propose plans for new Draft format, IPF scripting, a new DTC Studio but still no clear timeline for those to happen after years of their announcement

DrBong · 31 January 2019, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Hi guys, i need a fresh dump of Time Bandit v1.0 or original retail release

I don't know that there was ever a Time Bandit V1.x release for the Amiga, as there only appear to be V2.0/2.1 releases for the ST (which probably formed the basis for the Amiga port). Anyway, I have Time Bandit V2.2/2.22 [UK releases] that I can dump for you.

Let me know if you're interested!

dlfrsilver · 31 January 2019, 17:57

fire them up

DrBong · 03 February 2019, 20:57

@All
Here's a quick one that knocks the number of MIA releases down to 30 - IPF of SpaceJob_1431.....in the Zone. Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBong

Anyway, I have Time Bandit V2.2/2.22 [UK releases] that I can dump for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

fire them up

Denis, any news yet on the raw dumps for Time Bandit?

DamienD · 03 February 2019, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Dump of Insects in Space sent to Denis and Official IPF InsectsInSpace_829.zip now in The Zone!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBong

@All
Here's a quick one that knocks the number of MIA releases down to 30 - IPF of SpaceJob_1431.....in the Zone. Enjoy!

Thanks guys

...now uploaded to the EAB File Server under the directory /Commodore_Amiga/TOSEC/[not in TOSEC] IPFs - Official.

dlfrsilver · 04 February 2019, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBong

@All
Here's a quick one that knocks the number of MIA releases down to 30 - IPF of SpaceJob_1431.....in the Zone. Enjoy!

Denis, any news yet on the raw dumps for Time Bandit?

Mix of modified/weak or fuzzy sector/Atari ST hybrid disk format.

Thank you Steve Bak.

BarryB · 04 February 2019, 01:38

Denis, did I ever send you my v2.22 of Time Bandit? Seems mine has no protection track and only Krazy Kev on the high score, so might be an unmodified copy!

Arnie · 08 February 2019, 21:54

Final Fight US Gold [1329].

I have this as an IPF but it's start screen is different to HOL and another screen says:

Final Fight (TM) (c) 1991 Capcom USA Inc.

Is the US Gold version available as an IPF?

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29 January 2019, 08:25	#321
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,748	List updated but fix dat still it's not. For a Vulcan games I've made also raw dumps several years ago but we all know why IPF has not been released so far.

29 January 2019, 12:10	#322
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,678	Seems bizarre that 'non duplicated' games are not considered preserving as IPF just because they were 'copied' not 'professionally' duplicated, but if that's how the game was distributed originally then it should be preserved!

29 January 2019, 13:18	#323
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Agreed

29 January 2019, 18:20	#325
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,678	At least we have 'temporary' IPF's from Denis, unfortunatley those can't be shared until they are made 'official' by IFW or whoever OK's the dumps for preservation as IPF!

30 January 2019, 07:55	#327
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Not mastered with an industrial machine.

30 January 2019, 12:34	#329
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,678	@Denis: Did you say once that you analyser only recognises dumps from 'Trace' machines as being duplicated and that a disk 'could' have been duplicated commercially but on another system that's not supported in the analyser yet? That's why disks sometimes shows as 'not duplicated' like most Dinamic releases? I think you've mentioned your analyser does show if a disk has been 'copied' on a consumer drive so is this the case with Timekeepers, copied on an Amiga then boxed and sold? @DamienD: I guess this is why most commercial shareware/licenceware disks will never make it as 'official IPF?

30 January 2019, 13:49	#331
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Seems strange to me that only one Vulcan game was accepted by the SPS team. And it was the second in the series.

30 January 2019, 15:31	#333
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,678	Problem is we have no idea what 'state' the current SPS team are at, have they created more official IPF's since the last update (if so which platform and titles) but haven't yet updated their online Games database or is the project just stagnating? We need some transparency and honesty about what state SPS is in, they keep saying it's a 'hobby' project and only 'pro' licences fund development but then propose plans for new Draft format, IPF scripting, a new DTC Studio but still no clear timeline for those to happen after years of their announcement

31 January 2019, 17:57	#335
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	fire them up

04 February 2019, 01:38	#339
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,678	Denis, did I ever send you my v2.22 of Time Bandit? Seems mine has no protection track and only Krazy Kev on the high score, so might be an unmodified copy!

08 February 2019, 21:54	#340
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Final Fight US Gold [1329]. I have this as an IPF but it's start screen is different to HOL and another screen says: Final Fight (TM) (c) 1991 Capcom USA Inc. Is the US Gold version available as an IPF?

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