Worst Amiga model ever - Page 5

Mequa · 16 July 2011, 10:05

I went with CDTV simply because it was an abysmal marketing failure. Much too soon and much too underpowered for a useful "multimedia appliance". (CDXL video was much worse than VHS. MPEG1 VCD later reached a par.)
Refusing to call "Commodore CDTV" an Amiga didn't help much either.

At least CD32 sold slightly better (if not much)!

lordofchaos · 16 July 2011, 11:31

Looking at commodores business strategy in retrospect one has to wonder what the hell were they thinking with all these badly conceived half baked measures of upgrading and rebranding, don`t get me wrong I’m not bashing the wonderful machines we have grown to love but still one has to wonder what they were putting in their coffee at the time...

Paul_s · 16 July 2011, 14:32

I could never understand the 1500, 2500 or 3500. Surely they should have all been '+' editions as they were upgrading what was already there... which the 500+ was in mucho respects (the 500+ is a cool machine).

Anyway, the 4000 we eventually got should have been called the 2999!

Skope · 16 July 2011, 14:39

Well the 3500 was only the prototype name of the 3000T and was never officially released.

desiv · 16 July 2011, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skope

Well the 3500 was only the prototype name of the 3000T and was never officially released.

In that case, I'd like to change my vote..
You need to add specifically the 3500..
Because, the worst Amiga ever is obviously the Amiga that was never released..

desiv

Skope · 16 July 2011, 21:21

Haha touché

Maren · 16 July 2011, 23:11

"Worst" is not a word I'd feel comfortable using when describing any Amiga. Well. maybe that piece of crap that looked like a vacuum cleaner

humble worm · 16 July 2011, 23:50

CD32 looks like a tomb for a hamster family but I love it!

A600 is a bit like an old candy in new paper

Avanze · 17 July 2011, 01:20

A500+ was bothersome with a few of the older games, but A600 sucked.

AmigaFriend · 17 July 2011, 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maren

"Worst" is not a word I'd feel comfortable using when describing any Amiga. Well. maybe that piece of crap that looked like a vacuum cleaner

If THAT would happen to come out to the public, would get my vote in this poll.

NovaCoder · 17 July 2011, 06:47

Worse for Commodore or worst for a technical view or aesthetic view?

Anyway I'll vote for the A2000 this time, what a tank compared to the sleek A1000

I don't know why people voted for the 500, best Amiga ever (for the time and market) and kept the company in the black for years longer than it would have been otherwise.

ImmortalA1000 · 19 July 2011, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

I'm gonna go with the A1000 and its 256K RAM and Kickstart 1.2.

Runner up will be the A600 due poor expandability, can't even put some fastmem in it, though I like its case size and design more than any other Amiga. I wish the A1200 looked like that.

Except the A500 looks horrible, cheap and nasty components and build quality, came with maximum 512kb chip ram too up until FATTER Agnus, and the OS is in ROM not a 50 pence floppy disk to load KS 1.1 to 1.3

A500 plus is probably the worst machine, useless chipset upgrade with f'k all benefit to gamers. Close tie with the hideous A3000T. Looks like a cheap nasty 386/286 Viglen Tower PC yuck! At least the A4000T looked OK.

4pLaY · 19 July 2011, 16:04

Ive owned several of each Amiga model ever produced (except for the A3000T) and my vote whent for CD32.

I hard a hard time choosing that or the CDTV but then i remembered libraries in Norway used the CDTV so at least over here it had a tiny success factor and the CD32 didnt.

Today they are both more or less pointless in my eyes and it really shows on the CD32 that they whent the cheap ass route when making it.

Mogilny · 21 July 2011, 23:24

It may be one of the groundbreakers but being used to my A500 the thought that always crossed my mind when I used my friends A1000 was "what a piece of crap".

mikele · 27 July 2011, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avanze

A500+ was bothersome with a few of the older games, but A600 sucked.

can you substantiate that statement about A600? As I previously wrote, the Amiga press gave this model such a bad rep in the early 90s, which was kind of reasonable at the time because of A600's lack of expandability. Remember having seen it on a top of "the worst Miggy list". That argument is not valid anymore. Accelerators, ram expansions, ethernet PCMCIA cards, compact flash solid state drives, optical drives, USB...you name it. Try that on A500/CDTV/CD32.

Paul_s · 27 July 2011, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikele

can you substantiate that statement about A600? As I previously wrote, the Amiga press gave this model such a bad rep in the early 90s, which was kind of reasonable at the time because of A600's lack of expandability. Remember having seen it on a top of "the worst Miggy list". That argument is not valid anymore. Accelerators, ram expansions, ethernet PCMCIA cards, compact flash solid state drives, optical drives, USB...you name it. Try that on A500/CDTV/CD32.

If the ACA-520 takes off then the costly/hard to find 500 expansions shouldn't be an issue with compact flash/accelerator/ram/USB stuff for much longer. Optical drives aren't really that important - now pretty much superseded by solid state unless you're talking DVD/Blu-ray/HD.

On the topic of 500+/600/AGA compatibility with earlier games. The problems were mainly coding issues not hardware.

The 1000 is a nice machine - very well built - add a Rejuvenator and pretty much up-to-date with a common 500

KevG · 27 July 2011, 14:49

Worst model ever has got to be the A500+

I had 2 A500's (1.2 & 1.3) and when the A500+ came out I sold my old A500's and bought a new A500+. Big mistake! None of my cracked games worked with it. Even some original games wouldn't work on it. I couldn't really see how commodore could justify bringing out a new machine where the only difference was an increase of 512k in chip ram and a slightly better O.S.

The A500+ was the biggest waste of desk space ever.

Kev G

[EDIT] Just looking at the pole I can see that some weirdo has voted for the A1200. He obviously hasn't taken his medication today.

duga · 27 July 2011, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevG

Worst model ever has got to be the A500+

I had 2 A500's (1.2 & 1.3) and when the A500+ came out I sold my old A500's and bought a new A500+. Big mistake! None of my cracked games worked with it. Even some original games wouldn't work on it. I couldn't really see how commodore could justify bringing out a new machine where the only difference was an increase of 512k in chip ram and a slightly better O.S.

So why did you buy it? It was released for new users, not for people already owing a A500. You could have upgraded to OS 2.x and bought some fast ram.

Paul_s · 27 July 2011, 21:54

Think I've found the worst Amiga model ever.

Don't ask me where I got this from!

FOL · 27 July 2011, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_s

Don't ask me where I got this from!

Where did you get it from?

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View Poll Results: Worst Amiga model ever
A1000	13	3.55%
A500	6	1.64%
A500+	53	14.48%
A600	93	25.41%
A2000	10	2.73%
A3000 (desktop)	3	0.82%
A4000 (desktop)	5	1.37%
A1200	4	1.09%
A3000 (tower)	0	0%
A4000 (tower)	3	0.82%
Odd numbers (A1500, A2500)	28	7.65%
CD32	34	9.29%
CDTV	50	13.66%
None, they are all perfect	64	17.49%
Voters: 366. You may not vote on this poll

27 July 2011, 14:49	#97
KevG Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.K. Posts: 93	Worst model ever has got to be the A500+ I had 2 A500's (1.2 & 1.3) and when the A500+ came out I sold my old A500's and bought a new A500+. Big mistake! None of my cracked games worked with it. Even some original games wouldn't work on it. I couldn't really see how commodore could justify bringing out a new machine where the only difference was an increase of 512k in chip ram and a slightly better O.S. The A500+ was the biggest waste of desk space ever. Kev G [EDIT] Just looking at the pole I can see that some weirdo has voted for the A1200. He obviously hasn't taken his medication today. Last edited by KevG; 27 July 2011 at 14:55.

27 July 2011, 21:54	#99
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,333	Think I've found the worst Amiga model ever. Don't ask me where I got this from! Attached Thumbnails

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16 July 2011, 10:05	#81
Mequa Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Posts: 497	I went with CDTV simply because it was an abysmal marketing failure. Much too soon and much too underpowered for a useful "multimedia appliance". (CDXL video was much worse than VHS. MPEG1 VCD later reached a par.) Refusing to call "Commodore CDTV" an Amiga didn't help much either. At least CD32 sold slightly better (if not much)!

16 July 2011, 11:31	#82
lordofchaos TinkerTailorContentMaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedfordshire Age: 45 Posts: 1,205	Looking at commodores business strategy in retrospect one has to wonder what the hell were they thinking with all these badly conceived half baked measures of upgrading and rebranding, don`t get me wrong I’m not bashing the wonderful machines we have grown to love but still one has to wonder what they were putting in their coffee at the time...

16 July 2011, 14:32	#83
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,333	I could never understand the 1500, 2500 or 3500. Surely they should have all been '+' editions as they were upgrading what was already there... which the 500+ was in mucho respects (the 500+ is a cool machine). Anyway, the 4000 we eventually got should have been called the 2999!

16 July 2011, 14:39	#84
Skope Protracker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 8364 Posts: 381	Well the 3500 was only the prototype name of the 3000T and was never officially released.

16 July 2011, 21:21	#86
Skope Protracker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 8364 Posts: 381	Haha touché

16 July 2011, 23:11	#87
Maren Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: * Posts: 567	"Worst" is not a word I'd feel comfortable using when describing any Amiga. Well. maybe that piece of crap that looked like a vacuum cleaner

16 July 2011, 23:50	#88
humble worm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 745	CD32 looks like a tomb for a hamster family but I love it! A600 is a bit like an old candy in new paper

17 July 2011, 01:20	#89
Avanze Amiga User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 47 Posts: 562	A500+ was bothersome with a few of the older games, but A600 sucked.

17 July 2011, 06:47	#91
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	Worse for Commodore or worst for a technical view or aesthetic view? Anyway I'll vote for the A2000 this time, what a tank compared to the sleek A1000 I don't know why people voted for the 500, best Amiga ever (for the time and market) and kept the company in the black for years longer than it would have been otherwise.

19 July 2011, 16:04	#93
4pLaY www.resistance.no Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 200	Ive owned several of each Amiga model ever produced (except for the A3000T) and my vote whent for CD32. I hard a hard time choosing that or the CDTV but then i remembered libraries in Norway used the CDTV so at least over here it had a tiny success factor and the CD32 didnt. Today they are both more or less pointless in my eyes and it really shows on the CD32 that they whent the cheap ass route when making it.

21 July 2011, 23:24	#94
Mogilny Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Amiga 4-ever! Posts: 121	It may be one of the groundbreakers but being used to my A500 the thought that always crossed my mind when I used my friends A1000 was "what a piece of crap".

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