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Old 16 August 2019, 12:37   #21
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My 5 year old daughter loves the Konix Navigator.
It broke last week... tears and everything as she doesn't like any other from my collection of about 15 others.
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Old 16 August 2019, 13:22   #22
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Don’t like joysticks, even from my Spectrum days, i used keys instead, then a Megadrive pad or keyboard when i got my Amiga, i did have a Quickshot 2 button stick, but preferred keys on games that supported them.
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Old 16 August 2019, 15:16   #23
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Quickshot Python was the weapon of choice way back when.

These days however the kids struggle with up-for-jump if I hand them a joystick. A generic Sega pad with a button wired to up is much more popular with the younger generation.
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Old 16 August 2019, 23:18   #24
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Old 17 August 2019, 01:43   #25
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WOW now THAT design rings some bells. Especially the placement of the base buttons.

Did that ever come in red? Possible I'm mixing it with a QS II Turbo in my head.

I think you're thinking of the Supercharger SV-123.


It had a very similar base to the Logic3.


No, it only came in blue.
But, they also made the Alpha Ray, which was a smaller version of the Sigma Ray.
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Old 17 August 2019, 03:34   #26
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Competition Pro ...

I never used one of these Arcade Game Pads ... why is the joystick on the LEFT side??
I am right handed as most people and I simply can not imagine using my left hand for the stick ...
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Old 17 August 2019, 10:27   #27
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I'm right handed too; but all arcade games had the joystick on the left and the buttons on the right so got used to it
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Old 17 August 2019, 10:34   #28
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Competition Pro for me. They seem to hurt my hands more than I remember them doing back in the day, or it might be that my hands are getting older.
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Old 17 August 2019, 12:31   #29
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Competition Pro!
Or any other real joystick of similar proportions which I can hold in both hands. I also liked the original VIC-20 Commodore joystick, which is smaller.


I never managed to play any game with "gamepads", which make it unnecessarily hard to hit the right direction.
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Old 17 August 2019, 13:25   #30
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I'm used to joypads now.

...but they are rubbish for arcade games; how are you supposed to pull off moves in the "Street Fighter" or "King of Fighters" series using a joypad

For arcade games you definitely need something like:
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Old 17 August 2019, 14:13   #31
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An HotRod SE (which I have).

Me too!!


Hotrod buddies!!!


We should start a club...


I upgraded mine with an iPac, and Happ Competition (convex) buttons.


And set the bottom 4 to the Neo Geo colours
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Old 17 August 2019, 17:32   #32
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Cruiser!
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Old 17 August 2019, 22:22   #33
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The Tomahawk (aka Pacman) was always my number one. Well known here for its insane durability.
It feels like a coin-op joystick, because it actually is a coin-op joystick, put in a little box. The manufacturer later released a larger base version with two bigger, arcade-like buttons, one on each side. I always preferred the small one though.
It really was the best way to play all those wonderful Amiga games.

Anyway, this is my Tomahawk. Still as good as new, after all those years:
[ Show youtube player ]
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Old 17 August 2019, 22:24   #34
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Me too!!

Hotrod buddies!!!

We should start a club...

I upgraded mine with an iPac, and Happ Competition (convex) buttons.

And set the bottom 4 to the Neo Geo colours
Nice

...problem for me is that my current laptop doesn't have PS/2 ports so can't really use my HotRod

I haven't looked around but maybe there are PS/2 to USB cables?

Or I just buy an X-Arcade, which uses USB.

Thing is that these days I don't really have friends who are interested in playing arcade games, plus it takes up a bit of space; so I just make do with my Xbox 360 wireless controllers when having a bash via MAME.
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Old 18 August 2019, 12:09   #35
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Nice

...problem for me is that my current laptop doesn't have PS/2 ports so can't really use my HotRod

I haven't looked around but maybe there are PS/2 to USB cables?

Or I just buy an X-Arcade, which uses USB.

My friend also bought an X-Arcade, and it's build quality is far inferior to the Hotrod. All the buttons are awful, the switches are so so, same with the sticks. To make it sing, you need to replace the sticks, buttons, encoder and all the switches. You might as well build one from scratch!


Also, no don't buy either the X-Arcade itself, or it's upgrade kit, I bought the X-Arcade USB upgrade and it's shit. It will only let you press 6 switches together at the same time.


(In USB Mode. In PS/2 mode, or connected to a console, it's great, all buttons work together fine)


Which is *OK* if you're using it 1 player, but awful if using it with 2 players.
eg down forward uses 2 switches, plus 3 punch buttons, say in SF2, that's 5 switches! Leaving only 1 switch for player 2. And pressing a 7th button will cause one of the other switches to become unpressed. So, if you were holding those buttons, now you're going forward, rather than down forward, since the new 7th button cancels your down switch.
If that makes sense. Took me ages to figure out what was happening.

I eventually had to remove it, and replace it with an iPac2.
Which is *AMAZING*
You can program it with a small program, so, you can program each button to be whatever you want it to be.
It also has support for a new "shift" button, so, if you want to, hold down shift, and press the joystick up to increase windows volume instead.
Much better.
AND each button has it's own value, and it's Shift value.

[SHIFT] + [P1 Start] could become [ESC] to quit out of a emu!

There's loads of possibilities. It's a great encoder.
Can't recommend it enough.


By default it comes programmed for MAME/Hotrod! So, there's nothing to do except wire it up!


I bought it with a wire loom, and just pulled out the Hotrod controller and wiring, and replaced it with this. All in all, took about an hour.


You could always get a PS/2 --> USB encoder, but, I've had little to no success with them.


I buy some stuff from ArcadeWorld UK. Great place.
https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/produc...iring-Kit.html
(You want the 4.8mm wiring kit)


It's screw terminated, so, no soldering, just pull off the old connectors (use a pliars) and push on the new one.


I replaced the buttons too, with convex ones (With the bottom 4 in Neo Geo colours!)

https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/produc...de-Button.html


If you are buying some stuff, buy a few switches too. They tend to wear out over time, even if you don't use them.


https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/catego...Microswitches/

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Old 18 August 2019, 12:21   #36
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Thanks for all the information

Yeah, I heard that the build quality of the X-Arcade is inferior to the HotRodSE.
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Old 18 August 2019, 19:38   #37
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I haven't looked around but maybe there are PS/2 to USB cables?
Soarer's converter is a good one.
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Old 18 August 2019, 20:07   #38
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Thanks my friend

You mean this?

Quite expensive but that's ok... at the moment I can't even use my HotRod SE on my current laptop so
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Old 19 August 2019, 00:33   #39
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No love for the Konix Speedking? The best joystick I ever used out of the many I tried over the years, and I'm LEFT-handed for most things!

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Old 19 August 2019, 00:48   #40
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Yeah I had a few of those in my real Amiga years Foebane, not bad
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