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Old 24 May 2001, 21:01   #1
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Amiga External FDD on PC?

Since it's not possible to write ADF's directly to disk using a PC-diskdrive (in a PC ofcourse .. How about this:

Can I take the external diskdrive from my Amiga 2000 (which has 3 diskdrives, 2 internal and one external), connect it to my serial port .. and then to write my ADF's back to real Amiga disks under WinUAE?

Anyone ever tried this?
 
Old 25 May 2001, 23:26   #2
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erhm really.. no one?
 
Old 26 May 2001, 01:23   #3
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I have another idea for you. Connect yor printer to the Amiga's video port. the screens will get printed! have lots of paper handy though



No man, it is impossible. If you have no Amiga, you can't write squat, and to read, it takes a bit of effort (and might not even work at all, if te hack is done in certain ocmputers)
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Old 26 May 2001, 04:49   #4
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Why not? The 3rd FDD of my A2000 is connected through a serial connection. I'm not sure if it's a R232 connection. If it is, it SHOULD be possible.

Because that's how you made images of your C64 disks.. by hooking up your 1541 diskdrive with a special cable to your serial port.
 
Old 26 May 2001, 05:42   #5
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Wrong!

What serial connection? you connect C64 drives to the parallel port, not the serial one. Commodore 64's serial port has nothing to do with the PCs one, as well as the Amiga's drive port has nothing to do with a serial port.

You drive can't be hooked onto the serial port.
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It really amazes me that no one here has heard of catweasle.

http://members.tripod.com/~apd2/catweasl.htm
 
Old 26 May 2001, 09:52   #7
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Know it's hard, but you can transfer the adf's to your amiga with pc disks and write the adf to an amiga disk there
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Old 26 May 2001, 21:14   #8
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I know Catweasel, but it's overkill for someone who just wants to transfer his game disks to the amiga or the PC... If you have an Amiga, use the Amiga.
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Old 27 May 2001, 20:48   #9
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I know Catweasel, but it's overkill for someone who just wants to transfer his game disks to the amiga or the PC... If you have an Amiga, use the Amiga.
Without any workbench disks, this will be a little bit difficult.
 
Old 28 May 2001, 04:44   #10
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You don't need them...

I made a wee small Amiga transfer FAQ, which might prove useful to you:

http://www.classicgaming.com/shmups/...k/amigafaq.htm

If you think you can't even get your hands on a terminal program, throw me an email, and I will help you out.

But please don't connect strange things to wrong ports
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Old 28 May 2001, 18:50   #11
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Re: Wrong!

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What serial connection? you connect C64 drives to the parallel port, not the serial one. Commodore 64's serial port has nothing to do with the PCs one, as well as the Amiga's drive port has nothing to do with a serial port.

You drive can't be hooked onto the serial port.

Well one or the other.. you CAN hook up a C= 64 diskdrive onto the PC using a special cable .. which you can't buy in any stores and you'll have to make it yourself. I know it CAN be done because I have a bunch of programs that allows you to "dump" C64 disks onto the PC. Now I'm not sure if you look this cable up to your LPT or COM ports, it'll be the LPT port most likely.

And if I truely remember correctly CCS64 would even let you use the 1541 hooked up to the PC but I'm not sure.

However I do know for a fact that you CAN hook up a 1541 drive to the PC in order to dump the C64 diskimages.

So my most logical question was........why not with an Amiga diskdrive? Ofcourse the most obvious answer is that the PC Floppy controller works different.. but I'm not hooking it up to the floppy controller. That 1541 is also not connected to the floppy controller, infact the dump software is taking care of all interfacing between PC and 1541.

Being a very logical thinker I'd say.. why not the same with an Amiga diskdrive?
 
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The fact here is, that an 1541/71/81/whatever Commodore disk drive, is a microcomputer on its own, so it can work independently of the computer. This allows the X1541 cable (which you can buy at http://sta.c64.org, if you can't be arsed to make it yourself) to send data to the drive, which will then work by itself, like if it was working with a Commodore.

An Amiga drive is not intelligent, thus, it relies on the computer's controlle, and the serial port is no controller.

I hope I made myself clear, and that your question is answered

AFAIK, the Parallel thing in CCS64 allows you to use an emulated parallel conenction drive, not the real drive, but I can be wrong. There is a way to connect your 1541 drve to your C64 thru a parallel connection, allowing for faster speeds (like with teh Plus/4 drives), and I think this is what the emulator is referring to, but if someone knows otherwise, correct me. It'd be bloody brill if it could use the 1541.

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Old 29 May 2001, 00:07   #13
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Damn, my efforts get porked because my Amiga diskdrive is not smart enough and gets beaten by an old 1541.

BTW, call me sick but I can't stop petting my A2000. It looks so mature when you're only used to an A500!
 
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That will teach you to not subestimate old technology

And I pet my A600. YES I DO! Any problem?
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Old 20 July 2001, 19:53   #15
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It is possible to connect a miggy fdd to the paralell port. Check out aminet, there is a hard hack, requires a bit of soldering, pcb manufacturing, but it works. not in realtime but through some supplied software.
 
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..and then again: if you got an amiga why not play the games on the amiga? Emulation will never, and i mean never, be the same as the real thing.

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Pope, you know I agree with you 100% What scares me is that some people insist on using emulation even when they have the real thing, in working condition.
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yeah...

..i agree. Thats just scary, but i guess those are the people who never was into the scene deep enough to hold onto thier beloved amigas when the new evil consols took over.

Looking forward to see what the new amiga de is all about. Either it will be a total blunder or it will kick ***... But it´s still kind of uplifting to know that there are people out there who still fights for the amiga. I will never sell my a1200, i will use it untill it dies... whenever that will be. It survived 10 years.. so why not 10 years more?
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I dont give a shite about Amiga Inc's new plans really. I think they have nothing to do with us real Amigans. Still, as you say, I used my miggy for 10 years, so why not 10 more?

The real scary people is those who think all emulation is superior to any real thing :P
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right..

I agree, but i can´t say i´m not intrested in what they are doing couse it can be something great, but no i don´t think it´s a new classic amiga but it can be a step in the right direction. Someone gotto take over that battleaxe (hoho) and start the war against microsoft again. If it´s gonna be a free market then it´s nothing good about it if one company will rule everything..


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