Tiny Bobble Beta Released - A new Bubble Bobble arcade port - Page 7

Predseda · 14 August 2020, 22:35

Managed it to the level 81 with this new version.

In 0.9 I barely got to 30...

Does Tiny Bobble contain secret doors? I don't think so.

skyzoo73 · 14 August 2020, 22:56

We allow time for it to be refined, at this stage it is easy to play, it makes testing it faster.

Reido · 15 August 2020, 00:01

This is fantastic, what an amazing surprise! You kept that under your hat! Such a great time for amiga games, and there's great stuff in development too. I'd love to show my appreciation, please give us the option to donate!!

Edit: Tested on A1200, Apollo 060 64mb @80mhz. Couple of minor bugs that have been reported elsewhere. Top work!

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 03:54

Level 16: There seems to be an invisible pathway that enemies can go through...

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 04:10

one more thing I noticed, while player 1 was dying through his last life, I hit fire for player 2 to join in and while I got the "Thank you!" for P2 to enter, it went to the game-over screen.

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 05:56

"Extend" bugs sequence described while playing 2 player mode:

Player 1 gets extend:
bug: Extend bar animation cycles for "Player 2"
bug: Enemy sprites and bubbles next to "Player 2" extend bar disappear
bug: Extend animation cut-scene shows "Nice 2P"
ok: Extend animation shows green sprite (Player 1)
bug: Extend bar is not cleared up for "Player 1"
video: https://www.amigalive.com/downloads/...end-bug-p1.mp4

Player 2 gets extend:
ok: Extend bar animation cycles for "Player 2"
bug: Enemy sprites and bubbles next to "Player 2" extend bar disappear
ok: Extend animation cut-scene shows "Nice 2P"
bug: Extend animation shows green sprite (Player 1)
ok: Extend bar is cleared up for "Player 2"
video: https://www.amigalive.com/downloads/...end-bug-p2.mp4

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 06:14

Lightening bobble pop bug:

Normally when popping the lightening bubble, the lightening should travel the opposite of the player. This works as normal as long as you do not change directions before the lightening appears.

bug: the lightening will travel the opposite direction of the player as soon as the lightening appears and after the pop animation, this gives about 500ms for the player to change its direction.

technically it should read the player direction during the start of the bubble pop animation (not at the end of the pop animation)

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 06:17

"Hurry Up" ghosts do not kill "Player 2"

bug: When the right appearing ghost touch "Player 2", "Player 1" dies instead.
bug: When left appearing ghost touches "Player 2" nothing happens.

bug: When right appearing ghost touches "Player 1" nothing happens.

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 06:21

All these bugs are found on v0.92, I can check again once you have a new release ready.

I have to say you have done an awesome job!!!! Keep up the good work pink^abyss!!!

kkgarbod · 15 August 2020, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

Eg. IBM programs are not likely to fail because someone used a 486 instead of a 386.

Really? Try playing Test Drive III on anything higher than a 286/8, processor-dependent games was common in the 80's and early 90's. There are numerous (more than 10) slowdown utilities. There are even slowdown utilities for 95/98/ME.

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 10:39

Water bubbles are too frequent and they dont self-explode after a while... when too many pile-up, they prevent players to shoot out new bubbles. I was able to count 24 water bubbles all piled up.

I am not sure of the arcade mechanic on this or if there was a limit, but I dont think I ever saw more than 10 special bubbles at once in the previous Amiga/C64 versions.

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 10:45

Powerups:
The shoe: Doesnt make much of an impact, would it add speed the more you get?

The chewing gum: It seems to add up without a limited range, although its cool to be able to snipe an enemy across the whole playfield, I dont think this was possible on the Amiga/C64 or the arcade versions.

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by ztronzo

One thing missing from the sfx is springy sound when bouncing off a bubble. Not sure if the arcade had it though as I mostly played the C64 and Amiga versions.

I confirmed that this was only on the Amiga version... but I admit I loved that sound.. made me want to jump on bubbles :-)

roondar · 15 August 2020, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

Apart from that there is no reason why a program can't run on whatever CPU etc. Eg. IBM programs are not likely to fail because someone used a 486 instead of a 386.

I really want to reply to this as I think an interesting discussion can be held on this topic. However, I feel it's far too far off-topic for discussion in this thread. With that in mind, I made a new thread about this very topic: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=103567

And gave my perspective/answer there

jotd · 15 August 2020, 12:05

the hardest part was to make it run at 50Hz and the sfx rendering / sound. Now game mechanics isn't too difficult but that's endless testing unless you use the original source code

And even with the original source code it's not a piece of cake to extract the "functional" code from the rest (with drivers etc...)

mc68060 · 15 August 2020, 12:10

Btw, the decruncher should be faster. How long is that? Feels like 2 minutes of depacking or so...

ztronzo · 15 August 2020, 12:39

Bug: When each player loses a continue credit, their EXTEND letters do not get cleared up until the next level, thus any newly collected letter is lost on moving to the next level...

pink^abyss · 15 August 2020, 12:47

Thanks to ztronzo for his detailed bug reports (even video!) and also thanks to
all the other feedback. Version 0.93 on the way.

BigD · 15 August 2020, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by pink^abyss

Thanks to ztronzo for his detailed bug reports (even video!) and also thanks to
all the other feedback. Version 0.93 on the way.

Amazing Arcade Port and great fun to play! Looking forward to version 0.93. Is there a pause function yet as we all need to eat/drink eventually? A 2-button option for jump to be mapped to the second button would be good! My kids love it and it's a great introduction to Bubble Bobble for the next generation!

pink^abyss · 15 August 2020, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigD

Amazing Arcade Port and great fun to play! Looking forward to version 0.93. Is there a pause function yet as we all need to eat/drink eventually? A 2-button option for jump to be mapped to the second button would be good! My kids love it and it's a great introduction to Bubble Bobble for the next generation!

Thanks!
Regarding Pause and 2nd buttons: I have no experience on these topics (rarely needed for demos)

. If anyone wants to share some code snippets then i will take a look at how complicated it is.. but nothing promised

14 August 2020, 22:35	#121
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,551	Managed it to the level 81 with this new version. In 0.9 I barely got to 30... Does Tiny Bobble contain secret doors? I don't think so. Last edited by Predseda; 14 August 2020 at 23:56.

15 August 2020, 06:14	#127
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	Lightening bobble pop bug: Normally when popping the lightening bubble, the lightening should travel the opposite of the player. This works as normal as long as you do not change directions before the lightening appears. bug: the lightening will travel the opposite direction of the player as soon as the lightening appears and after the pop animation, this gives about 500ms for the player to change its direction. technically it should read the player direction during the start of the bubble pop animation (not at the end of the pop animation) Last edited by ztronzo; 15 August 2020 at 06:47.

15 August 2020, 06:17	#128
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	"Hurry Up" ghosts do not kill "Player 2" bug: When the right appearing ghost touch "Player 2", "Player 1" dies instead. bug: When left appearing ghost touches "Player 2" nothing happens. bug: When right appearing ghost touches "Player 1" nothing happens. Last edited by ztronzo; 15 August 2020 at 06:37.

15 August 2020, 10:39	#131
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	Water bubbles are too frequent and they dont self-explode after a while... when too many pile-up, they prevent players to shoot out new bubbles. I was able to count 24 water bubbles all piled up. I am not sure of the arcade mechanic on this or if there was a limit, but I dont think I ever saw more than 10 special bubbles at once in the previous Amiga/C64 versions. Last edited by ztronzo; 15 August 2020 at 11:14.

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14 August 2020, 22:56	#122
skyzoo73 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Italy Age: 51 Posts: 293	We allow time for it to be refined, at this stage it is easy to play, it makes testing it faster.

15 August 2020, 00:01	#123
Reido Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Dublin/Ireland Posts: 403	This is fantastic, what an amazing surprise! You kept that under your hat! Such a great time for amiga games, and there's great stuff in development too. I'd love to show my appreciation, please give us the option to donate!! Edit: Tested on A1200, Apollo 060 64mb @80mhz. Couple of minor bugs that have been reported elsewhere. Top work!

15 August 2020, 03:54	#124
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	Level 16: There seems to be an invisible pathway that enemies can go through...

15 August 2020, 04:10	#125
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	one more thing I noticed, while player 1 was dying through his last life, I hit fire for player 2 to join in and while I got the "Thank you!" for P2 to enter, it went to the game-over screen.

15 August 2020, 05:56	#126
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	"Extend" bugs sequence described while playing 2 player mode: Player 1 gets extend: bug: Extend bar animation cycles for "Player 2" bug: Enemy sprites and bubbles next to "Player 2" extend bar disappear bug: Extend animation cut-scene shows "Nice 2P" ok: Extend animation shows green sprite (Player 1) bug: Extend bar is not cleared up for "Player 1" video: https://www.amigalive.com/downloads/...end-bug-p1.mp4 Player 2 gets extend: ok: Extend bar animation cycles for "Player 2" bug: Enemy sprites and bubbles next to "Player 2" extend bar disappear ok: Extend animation cut-scene shows "Nice 2P" bug: Extend animation shows green sprite (Player 1) ok: Extend bar is cleared up for "Player 2" video: https://www.amigalive.com/downloads/...end-bug-p2.mp4

15 August 2020, 06:21	#129
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	All these bugs are found on v0.92, I can check again once you have a new release ready. I have to say you have done an awesome job!!!! Keep up the good work pink^abyss!!!

15 August 2020, 10:45	#132
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	Powerups: The shoe: Doesnt make much of an impact, would it add speed the more you get? The chewing gum: It seems to add up without a limited range, although its cool to be able to snipe an enemy across the whole playfield, I dont think this was possible on the Amiga/C64 or the arcade versions.

15 August 2020, 12:05	#135
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,272	the hardest part was to make it run at 50Hz and the sfx rendering / sound. Now game mechanics isn't too difficult but that's endless testing unless you use the original source code And even with the original source code it's not a piece of cake to extract the "functional" code from the rest (with drivers etc...)

15 August 2020, 12:10	#136
mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	Btw, the decruncher should be faster. How long is that? Feels like 2 minutes of depacking or so...

15 August 2020, 12:39	#137
ztronzo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Montreal Posts: 297	Bug: When each player loses a continue credit, their EXTEND letters do not get cleared up until the next level, thus any newly collected letter is lost on moving to the next level...

15 August 2020, 12:47	#138
pink^abyss Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Untergrund/Germany Posts: 408	Thanks to ztronzo for his detailed bug reports (even video!) and also thanks to all the other feedback. Version 0.93 on the way.

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