Should I buy an Amiga 600?

17 October 2002, 17:16

Hi,

I used to have an Amiga 500... but sold it

Now I'm thinking about buying a new one. So I would like to know if I should try & get an Amiga 600 instead? If I remember correctly you needed somthing for the Amiga 500 to play certain games, something like 1MB RAM or somthing? Is that it? (Not a computer expert

) & I think I remember hearing that's in the Amiga 600 already?

& I've got another question. If I buy one where can I find games? Is it possible to download them off the net using a PC & then save them in some format so they will work on my Amiga?

Hope someone can help me.

Thanks!

Amiga1992 · 17 October 2002, 17:22

If you want to play really old games and want no problems, get an A500... Lots of old games will need a bit of tinkering to run on A600s

As for yoru second question, yes it is possible. Read our FAQs

17 October 2002, 17:30

Hey Thanks.
Do you know what that upgrade thing I was talking about is? the name?

Because if I buy an Amiga 500, I'll probably need it to play certain games. I think you needed it to play Moonstone.. but not 100% sure.

Thanks again.

Amiga1992 · 17 October 2002, 17:37

I'd say any A500 you buy has a one meg RAM expansion already

If not, there you go, that's the name

CPC464 · 17 October 2002, 22:11

I would say YES YES YES buy an Amiga 600

They are nice and you can relive all those classics

Ash · 18 October 2002, 03:24

And you'll need some software to fake the non-existent keypad, not sure what its called
If its cheap then get it and hang out for a 500/1200

Amiga1992 · 18 October 2002, 05:35

Even with a softkicker some games wont work.

And the keypad is useless. I dont have a single game that requires it, and if it does, there's a workaround without any prograM (ctrl+numbers or something)

Shatterhand · 18 October 2002, 06:19

Epic needs the numpad, also some RPGs uses it.

If you have the money, get an A1200 , I think it's the best amiga for gaming.

Or get both an A500 and an A1200.

Amiga1992 · 18 October 2002, 07:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Shatterhand
If you have the money, get an A1200 , I think it's the best amiga for gaming.

ONLY if it has extra mem and an HD! Without WHDLoad, it's a pain in the arse.

BTW, as I said, you can fake a numpad pressing CTRL+something+ the top number keys

I did it with Indy 4, I mentioned that in another thread!

spannernick · 05 September 2004, 17:34

Well i got a 600 last week for £3 quid and its great,if i have any probs loading a game i just use relokick...

Unknown_K · 05 September 2004, 19:33

A 500/2000 (1.3 roms) and a 1200(3.0 roms) pretty much will run any game made for the Amiga without tinkering.

06 September 2004, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by One1

Hi,

I used to have an Amiga 500... but sold it

Now I'm thinking about buying a new one. So I would like to know if I should try & get an Amiga 600 instead? If I remember correctly you needed somthing for the Amiga 500 to play certain games, something like 1MB RAM or somthing? Is that it? (Not a computer expert

) & I think I remember hearing that's in the Amiga 600 already?

& I've got another question. If I buy one where can I find games? Is it possible to download them off the net using a PC & then save them in some format so they will work on my Amiga?

Hope someone can help me.

Thanks!

I would have to say NO! Get yourself another Amiga 500 or better yet an Amiga 2000. The Amiga 500 is higher quality and is built better then the Amiga 600. In fact, according to Amiga CU magazine, the Amiga 600 is the worst Amiga model that you can buy. I put my Amiga 500 into a nice vintage deluxe PC tower case.

[edited by akira: attachment deleted, no need to post the same shit twice]

Amiga1992 · 06 September 2004, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomMaster

In fact, according to Amiga CU magazine, the Amiga 600 is the worst Amiga model that you can buy.

CU Amiga is a long defunct mag that surely based this on who knows what interest of their own, and what they thought back then means nothing I say. An A600 is FAR from being the worse Amiga you can buy, I think the A500 Plus is the worst you could have ever bought, actually. Not an A500, not an A600, full tosh.

I suppose you never owned an A600, therefore you base your opinions on what a biased magazine said more than 10 years ago?

06 September 2004, 21:28

A600 was nice... but still the worst

07 September 2004, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

CU Amiga is a long defunct mag that surely based this on who knows what interest of their own, and what they thought back then means nothing I say. An A600 is FAR from being the worse Amiga you can buy, I think the A500 Plus is the worst you could have ever bought, actually. Not an A500, not an A600, full tosh.

I suppose you never owned an A600, therefore you base your opinions on what a biased magazine said more than 10 years ago?

I have owned EVERY type of Amiga computer ever made including the A600. I have found out from my own personal experience that the following Amiga models are the lowest quality and worst ones to own: Amiga 600, 1200, 4000, and 4000T. Did you know that the Amiga 500 is the best selling and most popular Amiga model of all time? More Amiga 500s were sold then any other Amiga model, including the Amiga 2000 series in America and the Amiga 1200 in Europe. The Amiga 500 was Commodore's second best selling computer, the famous Commodore 64 was their best selling computer.

It would be wise for you to read those old, 10 year old magazines. You would be surprised at how much you can learn from them.

Amiga1992 · 07 September 2004, 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomMaster

I have found out from my own personal experience that the following Amiga models are the lowest quality and worst ones to own: Amiga 600, 1200, 4000, and 4000T.

Would be good if you supported your words with actual FACTS that came out of your "personal experience".

Quote:

Did you know that the Amiga 500 is the best selling and most popular Amiga model of all time?

What does that have to mean to the QUALITY of a product? Moreso when you are comparing machines of different timeframes? Is not like one had the choice to purchase an A500 or an A4000. Is not like the financial situation of Commodore was the same in the A500 and A4000 times.

Is Britney Spears the best thing that happened to music, because she sells shitloads of records?

Eny- · 07 September 2004, 14:52

A1200 + HD + Bliz 1230/IV

Best Choice!

Galaxy · 07 September 2004, 15:09

A500 was the best selling Amiga because bloody Commodore sold it pretty much unchanged for so long (5 years or something - a long time in computer terms). And it's because of this complacency that the Amiga lost it's technical advantages and has been relegated to history.

The newer machines (ie. the ones that were listed) are are much more reliable because of their surface mount boards (this does make them harder to repair though...)

ant512 · 07 September 2004, 16:07

Personally, from a modern perspective, I think the A1200 is the best model. It is the easiest Amiga to upgrade to a reasonable state, as it is compatible with off-the-shelf parts. All A1200 trapdoor upgrades use 72-pin SIMMs, as opposed to those weird ZIP things in the big-box machines and custom memory boards for the A500; it also has a standard 2.5" IDE connector and an approximation of a standard PCMCIA interface.

The best A1200 setup is the one Eny- describes (don't forget a 16MB SIMM, though). It's not too expensive to buy, it's easy to put together, and it's capable of running pretty much anything you can throw at it.

It may have sold the most units, but the A500 is far too large, is nearly impossible to upgrade (unless you're prepared to pay over the odds for flaky hardware on eBay), and is hampered by its 512K/1MB of chip RAM and OCS/ECS chipset (depending on whether you've got an A500 or an A500+).

For the average retro gamer, the A500 is useless. You can't use WHDLoad if you haven't got a bucket of RAM and a hard drive, and you can't build up a library of games unless you put your trust in slowly degrading floppy disks. For serious users (who, for reasons best known to themselves, insist on using 20 year old hardware instead of investing in a decent PC/Mac), the A500 is again limited because of its abysmal speed and memory limitations.

As for the A600, I had two (and sold them, as I ran out of space). I prefer it to the A500 - again, the IDE interface and PCMCIA adaptor weigh in its favour, plus its small size makes it extremely useful as a machine you can carry around.

Amiga1992 · 07 September 2004, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant512

The best A1200 setup is the one Eny- describes (don't forget a 16MB SIMM, though). It's not too expensive to buy, it's easy to put together, and it's capable of running pretty much anything you can throw at it.

Yes yes yes. The right choice it is

Quote:

For serious users (who, for reasons best known to themselves, insist on using 20 year old hardware instead of investing in a decent PC/Mac),

hey I have them all

But the Amiga still serves its purpose for my work, and I can't exchange it for other platform.

So I've got amiga, mac and pc :P Slowly trying to get rid of the PC scumm, though.

17 October 2002, 17:16	#1
One1 Posts: n/a	Should I buy an Amiga 600? Hi, I used to have an Amiga 500... but sold it Now I'm thinking about buying a new one. So I would like to know if I should try & get an Amiga 600 instead? If I remember correctly you needed somthing for the Amiga 500 to play certain games, something like 1MB RAM or somthing? Is that it? (Not a computer expert ) & I think I remember hearing that's in the Amiga 600 already? & I've got another question. If I buy one where can I find games? Is it possible to download them off the net using a PC & then save them in some format so they will work on my Amiga? Hope someone can help me. Thanks!

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17 October 2002, 17:22	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	If you want to play really old games and want no problems, get an A500... Lots of old games will need a bit of tinkering to run on A600s As for yoru second question, yes it is possible. Read our FAQs

17 October 2002, 17:30	#3
One1 Posts: n/a	Hey Thanks. Do you know what that upgrade thing I was talking about is? the name? Because if I buy an Amiga 500, I'll probably need it to play certain games. I think you needed it to play Moonstone.. but not 100% sure. Thanks again.

17 October 2002, 17:37	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I'd say any A500 you buy has a one meg RAM expansion already If not, there you go, that's the name

17 October 2002, 22:11	#5
CPC464 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: York Age: 54 Posts: 393	I would say YES YES YES buy an Amiga 600 They are nice and you can relive all those classics

18 October 2002, 03:24	#6
Ash Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Aus Posts: 175	And you'll need some software to fake the non-existent keypad, not sure what its called If its cheap then get it and hang out for a 500/1200

18 October 2002, 05:35	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Even with a softkicker some games wont work. And the keypad is useless. I dont have a single game that requires it, and if it does, there's a workaround without any prograM (ctrl+numbers or something)

18 October 2002, 06:19	#8
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Epic needs the numpad, also some RPGs uses it. If you have the money, get an A1200 , I think it's the best amiga for gaming. Or get both an A500 and an A1200.

05 September 2004, 17:34	#10
spannernick Retro Nuts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London/UK Age: 53 Posts: 1,184	Well i got a 600 last week for £3 quid and its great,if i have any probs loading a game i just use relokick...

05 September 2004, 19:33	#11
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	A 500/2000 (1.3 roms) and a 1200(3.0 roms) pretty much will run any game made for the Amiga without tinkering.

06 September 2004, 21:28	#14
oldpx Posts: n/a	A600 was nice... but still the worst

07 September 2004, 14:52	#17
Eny- R3tr0 G4m3r Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lisbon - Portugal Age: 44 Posts: 327	A1200 + HD + Bliz 1230/IV Best Choice!

07 September 2004, 15:09	#18
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 1,417	A500 was the best selling Amiga because bloody Commodore sold it pretty much unchanged for so long (5 years or something - a long time in computer terms). And it's because of this complacency that the Amiga lost it's technical advantages and has been relegated to history. The newer machines (ie. the ones that were listed) are are much more reliable because of their surface mount boards (this does make them harder to repair though...)

07 September 2004, 16:07	#19
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 964	Personally, from a modern perspective, I think the A1200 is the best model. It is the easiest Amiga to upgrade to a reasonable state, as it is compatible with off-the-shelf parts. All A1200 trapdoor upgrades use 72-pin SIMMs, as opposed to those weird ZIP things in the big-box machines and custom memory boards for the A500; it also has a standard 2.5" IDE connector and an approximation of a standard PCMCIA interface. The best A1200 setup is the one Eny- describes (don't forget a 16MB SIMM, though). It's not too expensive to buy, it's easy to put together, and it's capable of running pretty much anything you can throw at it. It may have sold the most units, but the A500 is far too large, is nearly impossible to upgrade (unless you're prepared to pay over the odds for flaky hardware on eBay), and is hampered by its 512K/1MB of chip RAM and OCS/ECS chipset (depending on whether you've got an A500 or an A500+). For the average retro gamer, the A500 is useless. You can't use WHDLoad if you haven't got a bucket of RAM and a hard drive, and you can't build up a library of games unless you put your trust in slowly degrading floppy disks. For serious users (who, for reasons best known to themselves, insist on using 20 year old hardware instead of investing in a decent PC/Mac), the A500 is again limited because of its abysmal speed and memory limitations. As for the A600, I had two (and sold them, as I ran out of space). I prefer it to the A500 - again, the IDE interface and PCMCIA adaptor weigh in its favour, plus its small size makes it extremely useful as a machine you can carry around.

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