cd32 an R7

13 June 2003, 23:22

OK, i have the correct cd32 roms (kick 40.60 and cd32 expanded rom), i configure winuae with ec020, 2 mb chip, and aga and when i start emulation winuae hangs right after it's window is displayed.... sometimes it even freezes the whole machine....

he re is the log :

Press F12 to show the Settings Dialog (GUI), Alt-F4 to quit.
End+F1 changes floppy 0, End+F2 changes floppy 1, etc.
Can't use a graphics card or Zorro III fastmem when using a 24 bit
address space - sorry.
Entered action_replay_load()
.action_replay_memory_reset()
Follow sprite mode set
No disk in drive 0.
Resetting frame rate hack
Building CPU table for configuration: 68020 24-bit addressing
1866 CPU functions
Building CPU function table (2 0 1).
Max CPUID level=2 Processor is GenuineIntel
have_cmov=1, have_rat_stall=1
JIT: Setting signal handler
JIT: Building Compiler function table
Ct: 00000009, picasso_vidinfo.selected_rgbformat 00000000
WinUAE now active via WM_ACTIVATE
SOUND: maximum supported frequency: 0
SOUND: Secondary CreateSoundBuffer() failure: 80070057 S=1 F=0007 C=0057 (87) (Invalid Parameter)
DirectSound driver freed
DDRAW: Primary surface created in video-memory
DDRAW: Secondary surface created in video-memory
CreateOverlaySurface being called with 16-bits!

an that's it. freeze and it's over :-(

oh, and the roms are fine, they work with akiko cd 32 emulation (sound also works)

Toni Wilen · 14 June 2003, 10:04

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sometimes it even freezes the whole machine....

Windows 98/ME?

Most common problem is old/buggy ASPI layer. (search older threads for more information about ASPI..)

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oh, and the roms are fine, they work with akiko cd 32 emulation (sound also works)

This doesn't necessarily mean anything, Akiko isn't real emulator..

14 June 2003, 12:20

I've updated ASPI, and winuae still doesen't work with cd32 roms....

I know that Akiko is not a real emulator. It's basically an older version (I dunno which) of WinUAE. So it's strange that it works, and the latest Winuae doesen't .

Help!

Toni Wilen · 14 June 2003, 12:49

Does R6 work?

I think the reason for your problem is sound driver bug that disables the sound -> no sound interrupts. Try setting sound to "disabled but emulated".

14 June 2003, 13:47

hmmm R6 also doesen't work.... and no, sound setting doesen't make any difference.... also setting different cpu types (ec020/020/030), disabling/enabling JIT, installing newer aspi, turning fastram on/off etc.... nothing helps :-(

14 June 2003, 13:50

I also tried 08.21.r1 - the effect is the same

Quader · 14 June 2003, 14:38

Have you already tried another CD, or are you trying always the same?

Have you also tried it with a virtual cd-rom like virtual daemon, i work with this and works perfectly and i had not to update the ASPI-driver with this.

Also, are you shure nobody faked you with the name of the rom, because i got exactly the same problem when using the cdtv-rom which is not supported at the moment.

14 June 2003, 14:46

well the rom is ok, since it works with akiko.... which BTW is crap, because it uses an old version of uae for emulating cd 32, and is slower in aga emulation than the current versions.....

the thing happens no matter i run winuae with cd32 cd in or without any cd....an the cd's I use work with akiko... so it must be something with uae......

on the other hand: could you e-mail your cd32 config me at meckert@go2.pl ??

14 June 2003, 15:13

Ok, seems that its' the extended rom's fault. I've downloaded two extended rrom files, both of them DO WORK with akiko, and both of the don't work with latest winuae (r6 and r7). Emulator works fine with 40.60 rom, but it freezes right after start when it's configured with extended roms. Strange... When i turn off the winuae task the whole system freezes after winuae exits..

Toni Wilen · 14 June 2003, 15:19

Are you sure your Kickstart ROM is real CD32 Kickstart ROM? (regular A1200 ROM won't work)

AFAIK Akiko only uses extended ROM for graphics (startup animations), it does not run any CD32 ROM code.

14 June 2003, 15:23

it is kickstart 40.60 AFAIK this version was only used in cd32..... so i'm pretty sure it's the correct rom. ok, so it means that i can use it without the extended rom... cool, but how do i boot a cd ?? when i chose the cd as hd directory, the amiga (not winuae) crashed (suspend/reboot window) right after i booted it....

14 June 2003, 16:38

Ok, it works, after i've tried it out with the third cd32 expansion rom i've found. Strange that akiko works with either of three (displays cd32 boot anim with no problems). Thanx for hel guys !!!

derSammler · 14 June 2003, 18:12

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Originally posted by Meckert
Strange that akiko works with either of three (displays cd32 boot anim with no problems). Thanx for hel guys !!!

As Toni said, Akiko isn't a real cd32 emulator. Akiko does not execute the extended rom...

15 June 2003, 08:21

I know... it's really a winuae with a different frontend. And it requires both roms in it's configuration.

13 June 2003, 23:22	#1
Meckert Posts: n/a	cd32 an R7 OK, i have the correct cd32 roms (kick 40.60 and cd32 expanded rom), i configure winuae with ec020, 2 mb chip, and aga and when i start emulation winuae hangs right after it's window is displayed.... sometimes it even freezes the whole machine.... he re is the log : Press F12 to show the Settings Dialog (GUI), Alt-F4 to quit. End+F1 changes floppy 0, End+F2 changes floppy 1, etc. Can't use a graphics card or Zorro III fastmem when using a 24 bit address space - sorry. Entered action_replay_load() .action_replay_memory_reset() Follow sprite mode set No disk in drive 0. Resetting frame rate hack Building CPU table for configuration: 68020 24-bit addressing 1866 CPU functions Building CPU function table (2 0 1). Max CPUID level=2 Processor is GenuineIntel have_cmov=1, have_rat_stall=1 JIT: Setting signal handler JIT: Building Compiler function table Ct: 00000009, picasso_vidinfo.selected_rgbformat 00000000 WinUAE now active via WM_ACTIVATE SOUND: maximum supported frequency: 0 SOUND: Secondary CreateSoundBuffer() failure: 80070057 S=1 F=0007 C=0057 (87) (Invalid Parameter) DirectSound driver freed DDRAW: Primary surface created in video-memory DDRAW: Secondary surface created in video-memory CreateOverlaySurface being called with 16-bits! an that's it. freeze and it's over :-( oh, and the roms are fine, they work with akiko cd 32 emulation (sound also works)

14 June 2003, 16:38	#12
Meckert Posts: n/a	ALLERT CALLED OFF!! Ok, it works, after i've tried it out with the third cd32 expansion rom i've found. Strange that akiko works with either of three (displays cd32 boot anim with no problems). Thanx for hel guys !!!

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14 June 2003, 12:20	#3
Meckert Posts: n/a	I've updated ASPI, and winuae still doesen't work with cd32 roms.... I know that Akiko is not a real emulator. It's basically an older version (I dunno which) of WinUAE. So it's strange that it works, and the latest Winuae doesen't . Help!

14 June 2003, 12:49	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Does R6 work? I think the reason for your problem is sound driver bug that disables the sound -> no sound interrupts. Try setting sound to "disabled but emulated".

14 June 2003, 13:47	#5
Meckert Posts: n/a	hmmm R6 also doesen't work.... and no, sound setting doesen't make any difference.... also setting different cpu types (ec020/020/030), disabling/enabling JIT, installing newer aspi, turning fastram on/off etc.... nothing helps :-(

14 June 2003, 13:50	#6
Meckert Posts: n/a	I also tried 08.21.r1 - the effect is the same

14 June 2003, 14:38	#7
Quader Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Heidelberg/Germany Age: 47 Posts: 49	Have you already tried another CD, or are you trying always the same? Have you also tried it with a virtual cd-rom like virtual daemon, i work with this and works perfectly and i had not to update the ASPI-driver with this. Also, are you shure nobody faked you with the name of the rom, because i got exactly the same problem when using the cdtv-rom which is not supported at the moment.

14 June 2003, 14:46	#8
Meckert Posts: n/a	well the rom is ok, since it works with akiko.... which BTW is crap, because it uses an old version of uae for emulating cd 32, and is slower in aga emulation than the current versions..... the thing happens no matter i run winuae with cd32 cd in or without any cd....an the cd's I use work with akiko... so it must be something with uae...... on the other hand: could you e-mail your cd32 config me at meckert@go2.pl ??

14 June 2003, 15:13	#9
Meckert Posts: n/a	Ok, seems that its' the extended rom's fault. I've downloaded two extended rrom files, both of them DO WORK with akiko, and both of the don't work with latest winuae (r6 and r7). Emulator works fine with 40.60 rom, but it freezes right after start when it's configured with extended roms. Strange... When i turn off the winuae task the whole system freezes after winuae exits..

14 June 2003, 15:19	#10
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Are you sure your Kickstart ROM is real CD32 Kickstart ROM? (regular A1200 ROM won't work) AFAIK Akiko only uses extended ROM for graphics (startup animations), it does not run any CD32 ROM code.

14 June 2003, 15:23	#11
Meckert Posts: n/a	it is kickstart 40.60 AFAIK this version was only used in cd32..... so i'm pretty sure it's the correct rom. ok, so it means that i can use it without the extended rom... cool, but how do i boot a cd ?? when i chose the cd as hd directory, the amiga (not winuae) crashed (suspend/reboot window) right after i booted it....

15 June 2003, 08:21	#14
Meckert Posts: n/a	I know... it's really a winuae with a different frontend. And it requires both roms in it's configuration.

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