Game titles project... - Page 3

s2325 · 02 July 2013, 11:00

EAB forum have few polish users if you are curious about some words.

scifi · 02 July 2013, 11:11

I'm sure it has... Polish Amiga community was always really active and still is...
Thanks and I'll keep that in mind!

scifi · 02 July 2013, 11:58

Another one!

scifi · 02 July 2013, 12:59

Ok, that will be the last individual file that I'm uploading...
I will make a good batch of files and then I will come back again...
It's hard for TCD or anyone else working on HOL to keep up with my uploads so I will make your life easier..

scifi · 02 July 2013, 20:10

TCD, I need your opinion.... 3D Galax has 2 different title screens,
One is with the 3D definition the other is without it...
You can add both of them of course but which one of the following do you think is the most appropriate? I believe the 1st and last one...

TCD · 03 July 2013, 07:34

I'd also say that we keep both #1 and #4

I'm collecting your uploads for now until the display problem is fixed, just if you wondered why they aren't added

scifi · 03 July 2013, 08:07

Good morning TCD!

I'm glad that we are on the same tune!

Thanks for letting me know, but I was pretty sure that you did!
Right now, I'm working to pile up a bunch of titles and upload them as a zip file...
I'm almost done with the #-9 section of entries...
I don't want to disturb you all the time with single files... after all, as you said before, there is a problem with displaying the images on HOL's DB...

scifi · 03 July 2013, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

I'd also say that we keep both #1 and #4

I'm collecting your uploads for now until the display problem is fixed, just if you wondered why they aren't added

One more question TCD... do you think that a black outline on the game's title is more appealing? I believe it is... it defines better the colours and the projects a better contrast... should I always use it?

TCD · 03 July 2013, 08:38

I really depends on the title itself... If the title was on a black background I'd keep it. If the original image used (for example) a blue title on a white background, a black outline would look slightly 'odd'. I think you get the idea

scifi · 03 July 2013, 08:41

Yes, you're right... some titles are designed to stand out without the need of a black outline... thanks for the help! Once more...

TCD · 03 July 2013, 23:03

Just got the info from RCK that PNGs aren't supported in miscshots, so you'd have to save the images as JPGs without compression. That way there won't be transparency, so I guess you'll have to pick a 'good' background colour.

lesta_smsc · 03 July 2013, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Just got the info from RCK that PNGs aren't supported in miscshots, so you'd have to save the images as JPGs without compression. That way there won't be transparency, so I guess you'll have to pick a 'good' background colour.

White? Or even blue to match HOL

TCD · 03 July 2013, 23:17

Basically the main colour of the screen that the title appears on I'd say (so in most cases black

). I'm sure that scifi will come up with something that looks good

scifi · 04 July 2013, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Basically the main colour of the screen that the title appears on I'd say (so in most cases black

). I'm sure that scifi will come up with something that looks good

Ohhh boy! And I just finished all the titles from # to 9!

Okay, that's not big deal... we just need a background color... right now every title comes with white background to pinpoint the basic features of the letters and shadows... let's keep it as it is.
Okay, let's see an example and tell me your opinion about it... here it is!

Oh, and you don't have to sacrifice the transparency! It's well preserved... although the outcome is not the same as the png format.
It gets pixelized even in the highest quality!

scifi · 04 July 2013, 21:05

And with black and HOL's blue background colour... I believe that the white background is the best for this task...
TCD, try to upload the white transparent JPEG file that I have previously attached ... let's see if this time works just fine!

TCD · 04 July 2013, 21:22

This is the result: http://hol.abime.net/2349/miscshot
I'll attach a '100%' JPG that I'll create from the PNG too and we can check the difference. If it's better you keep uploading the PNG and I'll create the JPG from it

Edit: Looks even worse... I'll ask how we should do it.

scifi · 04 July 2013, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

This is the result: http://hol.abime.net/2349/miscshot
I'll attach a '100%' JPG that I'll create from the PNG too and we can check the difference. If it's better you keep uploading the PNG and I'll create the JPG from it

Edit: Looks even worse... I'll ask how we should do it.

What do you mean 100% JPG? Do you mean without distortion?
Tell me how and I will do it for you, that's not a problem!

I went through all the available ways to make a JPG file from PNG and I haven't seen something like this... could you please give me some info?

prowler · 04 July 2013, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by scifi

What do you mean 100% JPG? Do you mean without distortion?

I'm guessing what's meant by 100% JPG is 'without compression'.

TCD · 04 July 2013, 22:06

Yep, I meant without compression

The program I used had a '100%' quality setting which I assumed to mean 'without compression', but given the result... I'll have a look again tomorrow and thanks for keeping up with the changes scifi

Edit: I think I've got it

Please reload the miscshots for 1st Devision Manager a few times and check the second version again. Seems that one is 'pixel perfect'.

scifi · 04 July 2013, 22:26

You're more than welcome TCD!

Well, I believe that whatever settings you may use, the outcome won't be as crystal clear as PNG format. I believe that if we want to maintain an acceptable and more accurate outcome we should stick to PNG. I understand the limitations that Miscshots section has, so we should consider to add it somewhere else where PNG files can be supported.
If this is possible of course and if there is any adequate and available space.
Unless there's a way to use JPEG format without any compression and distortion.. if someone else knows a way please feel free to show us the way!

I used Photoshop, Coreldraw and other image processing programs and the outcome still remains "blurred".

02 July 2013, 11:58	#43
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Another one! Attached Thumbnails

02 July 2013, 12:59	#44
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Ok, that will be the last individual file that I'm uploading... I will make a good batch of files and then I will come back again... It's hard for TCD or anyone else working on HOL to keep up with my uploads so I will make your life easier.. Attached Thumbnails

02 July 2013, 20:10	#45
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	TCD, I need your opinion.... 3D Galax has 2 different title screens, One is with the 3D definition the other is without it... You can add both of them of course but which one of the following do you think is the most appropriate? I believe the 1st and last one... Attached Thumbnails

04 July 2013, 21:05	#55
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	And with black and HOL's blue background colour... I believe that the white background is the best for this task... TCD, try to upload the white transparent JPEG file that I have previously attached ... let's see if this time works just fine! Attached Thumbnails

04 July 2013, 22:06	#59
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	Yep, I meant without compression The program I used had a '100%' quality setting which I assumed to mean 'without compression', but given the result... I'll have a look again tomorrow and thanks for keeping up with the changes scifi Edit: I think I've got it Please reload the miscshots for 1st Devision Manager a few times and check the second version again. Seems that one is 'pixel perfect'. Last edited by TCD; 04 July 2013 at 22:18.

02 July 2013, 11:00	#41
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	EAB forum have few polish users if you are curious about some words.

02 July 2013, 11:11	#42
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	I'm sure it has... Polish Amiga community was always really active and still is... Thanks and I'll keep that in mind!

03 July 2013, 07:34	#46
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	I'd also say that we keep both #1 and #4 I'm collecting your uploads for now until the display problem is fixed, just if you wondered why they aren't added

03 July 2013, 08:07	#47
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Good morning TCD! I'm glad that we are on the same tune! Thanks for letting me know, but I was pretty sure that you did! Right now, I'm working to pile up a bunch of titles and upload them as a zip file... I'm almost done with the #-9 section of entries... I don't want to disturb you all the time with single files... after all, as you said before, there is a problem with displaying the images on HOL's DB...

03 July 2013, 08:38	#49
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	I really depends on the title itself... If the title was on a black background I'd keep it. If the original image used (for example) a blue title on a white background, a black outline would look slightly 'odd'. I think you get the idea

03 July 2013, 08:41	#50
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Yes, you're right... some titles are designed to stand out without the need of a black outline... thanks for the help! Once more...

03 July 2013, 23:03	#51
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	Just got the info from RCK that PNGs aren't supported in miscshots, so you'd have to save the images as JPGs without compression. That way there won't be transparency, so I guess you'll have to pick a 'good' background colour.

03 July 2013, 23:17	#53
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	Basically the main colour of the screen that the title appears on I'd say (so in most cases black ). I'm sure that scifi will come up with something that looks good

04 July 2013, 21:22	#56
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	This is the result: http://hol.abime.net/2349/miscshot I'll attach a '100%' JPG that I'll create from the PNG too and we can check the difference. If it's better you keep uploading the PNG and I'll create the JPG from it Edit: Looks even worse... I'll ask how we should do it.

04 July 2013, 22:26	#60
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	You're more than welcome TCD! Well, I believe that whatever settings you may use, the outcome won't be as crystal clear as PNG format. I believe that if we want to maintain an acceptable and more accurate outcome we should stick to PNG. I understand the limitations that Miscshots section has, so we should consider to add it somewhere else where PNG files can be supported. If this is possible of course and if there is any adequate and available space. Unless there's a way to use JPEG format without any compression and distortion.. if someone else knows a way please feel free to show us the way! I used Photoshop, Coreldraw and other image processing programs and the outcome still remains "blurred".

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