"Disk Full" error when copying single file - too big?

Foebane · 21 January 2018, 19:33

https://files.scene.org/get/parties/...rtyversion.zip

I have been copying files from a Windows directory to HDF files within WinUAE so as to reduce the number of files on the Windows side. However, one single file is causing me problems, and it is the one called "starstruck.dat" within the zip file. All other files have copied over fine, some taking longer than others due to their sizes, but this particular file is freezing the copy process until AmigaDOS says "Disk Full". I've been using 400Mb HDF files and I tried a 600Mb file to see if it would fit, but it still says "Disk Full". It even says it early on in the copy process, when there is plenty of space left.

So I can only imagine that the reason I'm getting this error is because the source file is too big for AmigaDOS? At 33.8 Mb, I would imagine so. Is that assessment correct?

idrougge · 21 January 2018, 22:28

The maximum file size on AmigaOS 3.x is 1 gigabyte. 33 MB is far from that.

Foebane · 21 January 2018, 22:37

Thanks for that info.

I've been experimenting, as I said, with HDFs, but I have been using the default HDF type when creating them, based on the "Add Hardfile" settings. I have been dismayed in particular by the 31-character filename limit, and I have some filenames that are longer than that.

What is a good HDF format for long file names and just better performance, in something like ClassicWB?

RDB/OFS/FFS?
PFS3? PDS3? SFS? Custom?

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 00:34

Foebane my browsers report that your archive is infected, false positive?

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Foebane my browsers report that your archive is infected, false positive?

I got the same thing, I turned off the warnings. That's the nature of Demoscene productions, they're benign but they're often mistaken for viruses.

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 01:29

I had no problem copying and running the demo

idrougge · 22 January 2018, 01:33

SFS and PFS support 106 character filenames.

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

I had no problem copying and running the demo, see video attached

Thank you for investigating, AS, but your Workbench looks a lot more advanced than mine. I'm using this (http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/lite.htm), so can I use SFS and PFS with that? Which is most recommended for "classic" Workbench, please?

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 02:06

My system is è AFA OS (3.9 BB1-2-3-4), for the demo an game ideal is the standard 3.0 / 3.1 workbench. If you want a nice system it's functional then all right AFA OS or AmiKit.

Regarding the File System the best choice is SFS or PFS but to run your demo it is also good FFS.

In your system there is something wrong, have you checked that there are no Windows restrictions?

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

My system is è AFA OS (3.9 BB1-2-3-4), for the demo an game ideal is the standard 3.0 / 3.1 workbench. If you want a nice system it's functional then all right AFA OS or AmiKit.

Regarding the File System the best choice is SFS or PFS but to run your demo it is also good FFS.

In your system there is something wrong, have you checked that there are no Windows restrictions?

I remember downloading the original System.hdf, and I chose to use WB 3.1 to install the WB core of ClassicWB.

How can I check Windows for restrictions? I'm not aware of any, but I'm on Win10 but for all I know, they've implemented them.

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 02:20

ClassicWB is not to blame, you can see it from the screenshot

Regarding Windows, try repeating the operation as an Admin user

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 07:03

I repeated the operation again by running WinUAE as admin, and these are the results: The copy process of the .dat file, easily the biggest of all of the files on the HDF fails, and yet afterwards, in the second picture, is proof that there was plenty of space for it.

chip · 22 January 2018, 07:15

Have you tried to make the copy with a tool like DOPUS (which is installed in ClassicWB) ?

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip

Have you tried to make the copy with a tool like DOPUS (which is installed in ClassicWB) ?

Yes, I did. The progress bar in the copy process filled up and then froze at around 85-90%, then after a while the Disk Full message appeared again.

I'm posting my config and a bug report, which I should've done in the first place. Maybe I'm not using RDB or something.

UPDATE: I also tried DOpus again. As you can see, it reaches that point in the progress bar, stays for over a minute like that and then the message pops up.

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 08:37

I think I understand the problem (only with OS 3.1), try to create a HardFile HD Controller "RDB Mode" (To initialize it you must use HDToolBox)

Use this this HardFile attached (in this hardfile you can copy the file)

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 09:03

It worked!

I added your HDF file ("Add Hardfile" dialog already said it was RDB already) and started the emulation going. Ran HDToolBox but no drives showed up there. I copied the Starstruck folder over with no problems (and it was lightning fast as well) and the demo ran normally.

So what do I have to do with my HDFs? Just click on each of them and in "Add Hardfile" click on the RDB button and then, in emulation, prepare each of them with HDToolBox? I won't have to format them, will I? I'd hate to lose so much data.

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 09:09

Mine i had already initialized and formatted HardFile and made bootable with HDToolbox. If you need to create a new HardFile you have to do the same operations.

Even ClassicWB can move it to Hardisk RDB Mode

Attention, a change to RDB Mode will destroy the data on HardFile!

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 09:14

You mean clicking on the RDB Mode button is irreversible? Good job I have a backup.

So what if I want to do the same to the ClassicWB HDF? Or don't I need to?

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 January 2018, 09:18

Simple, create a new HardFile RDB Mode "Bootable" and copy all the content

Initially, the volumes should not have the same name (conflict), after copying the new HardFile, start the new hardfile renaming volume

Foebane · 22 January 2018, 09:23

Thanks. Does RDB mode increase filename limits, or will it still just be around 30 characters only?

21 January 2018, 19:33	#1
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	"Disk Full" error when copying single file - too big? https://files.scene.org/get/parties/...rtyversion.zip I have been copying files from a Windows directory to HDF files within WinUAE so as to reduce the number of files on the Windows side. However, one single file is causing me problems, and it is the one called "starstruck.dat" within the zip file. All other files have copied over fine, some taking longer than others due to their sizes, but this particular file is freezing the copy process until AmigaDOS says "Disk Full". I've been using 400Mb HDF files and I tried a 600Mb file to see if it would fit, but it still says "Disk Full". It even says it early on in the copy process, when there is plenty of space left. So I can only imagine that the reason I'm getting this error is because the source file is too big for AmigaDOS? At 33.8 Mb, I would imagine so. Is that assessment correct?

22 January 2018, 01:29	#6
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	I had no problem copying and running the demo Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 22 January 2018 at 23:58.

22 January 2018, 02:20	#11
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	ClassicWB is not to blame, you can see it from the screenshot Regarding Windows, try repeating the operation as an Admin user Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 22 January 2018 at 23:58.

22 January 2018, 07:03	#12
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	I repeated the operation again by running WinUAE as admin, and these are the results: The copy process of the .dat file, easily the biggest of all of the files on the HDF fails, and yet afterwards, in the second picture, is proof that there was plenty of space for it. Attached Thumbnails

22 January 2018, 08:37	#15
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	I think I understand the problem (only with OS 3.1), try to create a HardFile HD Controller "RDB Mode" (To initialize it you must use HDToolBox) Use this this HardFile attached (in this hardfile you can copy the file) Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 16 February 2018 at 00:27.

21 January 2018, 22:28	#2
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	The maximum file size on AmigaOS 3.x is 1 gigabyte. 33 MB is far from that.

21 January 2018, 22:37	#3
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	Thanks for that info. I've been experimenting, as I said, with HDFs, but I have been using the default HDF type when creating them, based on the "Add Hardfile" settings. I have been dismayed in particular by the 31-character filename limit, and I have some filenames that are longer than that. What is a good HDF format for long file names and just better performance, in something like ClassicWB? RDB/OFS/FFS? PFS3? PDS3? SFS? Custom?

22 January 2018, 00:34	#4
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Foebane my browsers report that your archive is infected, false positive?

22 January 2018, 01:33	#7
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	SFS and PFS support 106 character filenames.

22 January 2018, 02:06	#9
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	My system is è AFA OS (3.9 BB1-2-3-4), for the demo an game ideal is the standard 3.0 / 3.1 workbench. If you want a nice system it's functional then all right AFA OS or AmiKit. Regarding the File System the best choice is SFS or PFS but to run your demo it is also good FFS. In your system there is something wrong, have you checked that there are no Windows restrictions?

22 January 2018, 07:15	#13
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	Have you tried to make the copy with a tool like DOPUS (which is installed in ClassicWB) ?

22 January 2018, 09:03	#16
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	It worked! I added your HDF file ("Add Hardfile" dialog already said it was RDB already) and started the emulation going. Ran HDToolBox but no drives showed up there. I copied the Starstruck folder over with no problems (and it was lightning fast as well) and the demo ran normally. So what do I have to do with my HDFs? Just click on each of them and in "Add Hardfile" click on the RDB button and then, in emulation, prepare each of them with HDToolBox? I won't have to format them, will I? I'd hate to lose so much data.

22 January 2018, 09:09	#17
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Mine i had already initialized and formatted HardFile and made bootable with HDToolbox. If you need to create a new HardFile you have to do the same operations. Even ClassicWB can move it to Hardisk RDB Mode Attention, a change to RDB Mode will destroy the data on HardFile!

22 January 2018, 09:14	#18
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	You mean clicking on the RDB Mode button is irreversible? Good job I have a backup. So what if I want to do the same to the ClassicWB HDF? Or don't I need to?

22 January 2018, 09:18	#19
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Simple, create a new HardFile RDB Mode "Bootable" and copy all the content Initially, the volumes should not have the same name (conflict), after copying the new HardFile, start the new hardfile renaming volume

22 January 2018, 09:23	#20
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	Thanks. Does RDB mode increase filename limits, or will it still just be around 30 characters only?

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