Gotek - Revisited

kipper2k · 01 May 2015, 04:17

Hi all,

I wasn't going to say anything yet, but i really do have a hard time keeping secrets...

I am going to redo the Gotek floppy drive, it will be a combination of all of the good things that are already out in the wild and also a few new features that i cannot tell you about yet. I am rounding up the parts now and if all goes well in about 6 - 8 weeks i will have something to show. I will sell it hopefully for the same price as the basic Gotek on Ebay (~$39) and it will be preprogrammed for the Amiga so hopefully this will put a stop to the insane prices that people have been suffering. I'll pass this on to Stedy to see if this can also be implemented in the CD32

Hopefully Hervé can be persuaded to think about doing some more updates.

01 May 2015, 06:29

That's fantastic news Kipper. I'm very interested to see what you can do in regard to the hardware.

I'm hoping that you'll find a way to make the thing fit easier into an Amiga case!

I wish there were a way to directly support the original author of the software. He might then be able to provide some new features.

tolkien · 01 May 2015, 06:53

Fantástico news! Waiting to see those new features!!!

DonAmiga · 01 May 2015, 08:22

Nice one kipper

jbenam · 01 May 2015, 10:21

Excellent news Kipps! No more cut cases, I suspect?

kipper2k · 01 May 2015, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

Excellent news Kipps! No more cut cases, I suspect?

no cut cases, (that would be optional) may be a little filing necessary, but nothing too major. The A500 will probably be the best for installation... oops, i said too much

alexh · 01 May 2015, 14:58

Interesting stuff.

I don't know how the hardware works but most of our designs require firmware on the board to be able to upload a new flash image. (Though a few support raw JTAG flash uploading)

If a Gotek requires a firmware to be upgraded, I'd make sure you can find *something* you can legally distribute pre-flashed.

I imagine that both the original Gotek and Herve's Amiga firmware require legal permissions to be distributed as part of a product?

dirkies · 01 May 2015, 19:04

I guess this one will have clicky sound through a speaker by default

kipper2k · 01 May 2015, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkies

I guess this one will have clicky sound through a speaker by default

jumper will be default on for sound

UberFreak · 02 May 2015, 01:53

The basic Gotek unit (with 3-digit display) is under $20USD from China, including shipping.
Where did the $39 come from?

kipper2k · 02 May 2015, 02:00

show me that price ?. post a link for everyones benefit. Ebay is average $39

ransom1122 · 02 May 2015, 02:08

Will it be able to show long filenames?

UberFreak · 02 May 2015, 02:15

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Up...item25a4dc17a7

Here you go.
There are plenty of sellers selling at this price range, I bought several units a few months ago.

kipper2k · 02 May 2015, 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberFreak

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Up...item25a4dc17a7

Here you go.
There are plenty of sellers selling at this price range, I bought several units a few months ago.

no good, doesnt ship to canada, ther are a few that wont ship to Canada, the ad doesnt say gotek, i wonder if it is a knockoff

this one will...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Up...item3a95734c76

i guess you cant search for "gotek" as these ads dont mention it

ransom1122 · 02 May 2015, 02:23

Looks like a generic floppy emulator. I'm guessing it works as Uberfreak has used it on his amiga.

UberFreak · 02 May 2015, 02:36

They're not a knockoff, look at the 3rd picture in my link, it clearly shows the Gotek logo on the unit.

Before the Amiga firmware showed up, nearly all sellers advertised these units only as "floppy emulator", without the Gotek name.
Only after people started calling them "Goteks", many sellers started using that.

ransom1122 · 02 May 2015, 02:40

Looks different to mine. But if it works and they ship to your country then thumbs up.

What firmware does that gotek run?

UberFreak · 02 May 2015, 02:52

The original one from Gotek of course, you need to flash Herve's FW for Amiga use.
The flashing cable is ~$3 from China, shipping included.

ransom1122 · 02 May 2015, 03:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberFreak

The original one from Gotek of course, you need to flash Herve's FW for Amiga use.
The flashing cable is ~$3 from China, shipping included.

Mine was already flashed to 1.05 out of the box. Didn't want to mess with flashing.

Retrofan · 02 May 2015, 03:41

Flashing is difficult. I need Windows XP.

I would like an external unit that could work as DF0 or DF1 with a switch. Not filing or cutting the case. I want also the floppy drive sound.

(Just what I want)

Edit: I would add a large lcd screen to show names instead of numbers, but no idea if that's possible.

01 May 2015, 04:17	#1
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	Gotek - Revisited Hi all, I wasn't going to say anything yet, but i really do have a hard time keeping secrets... I am going to redo the Gotek floppy drive, it will be a combination of all of the good things that are already out in the wild and also a few new features that i cannot tell you about yet. I am rounding up the parts now and if all goes well in about 6 - 8 weeks i will have something to show. I will sell it hopefully for the same price as the basic Gotek on Ebay (~$39) and it will be preprogrammed for the Amiga so hopefully this will put a stop to the insane prices that people have been suffering. I'll pass this on to Stedy to see if this can also be implemented in the CD32 Hopefully Hervé can be persuaded to think about doing some more updates. Last edited by kipper2k; 01 May 2015 at 04:24.

01 May 2015, 14:58	#7
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Interesting stuff. I don't know how the hardware works but most of our designs require firmware on the board to be able to upload a new flash image. (Though a few support raw JTAG flash uploading) If a Gotek requires a firmware to be upgraded, I'd make sure you can find something you can legally distribute pre-flashed. I imagine that both the original Gotek and Herve's Amiga firmware require legal permissions to be distributed as part of a product? Last edited by alexh; 01 May 2015 at 15:05.

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01 May 2015, 06:29	#2
extremeways Posts: n/a	That's fantastic news Kipper. I'm very interested to see what you can do in regard to the hardware. I'm hoping that you'll find a way to make the thing fit easier into an Amiga case! I wish there were a way to directly support the original author of the software. He might then be able to provide some new features.

01 May 2015, 06:53	#3
tolkien AmigaMan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Castro Urdiales/Spain Posts: 760	Fantástico news! Waiting to see those new features!!!

01 May 2015, 08:22	#4
DonAmiga Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 523	Nice one kipper

01 May 2015, 10:21	#5
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,910	Excellent news Kipps! No more cut cases, I suspect?

01 May 2015, 19:04	#8
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,296	I guess this one will have clicky sound through a speaker by default

02 May 2015, 01:53	#10
UberFreak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: the world Posts: 439	The basic Gotek unit (with 3-digit display) is under $20USD from China, including shipping. Where did the $39 come from?

02 May 2015, 02:00	#11
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	show me that price ?. post a link for everyones benefit. Ebay is average $39

02 May 2015, 02:08	#12
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,813	Will it be able to show long filenames?

02 May 2015, 02:15	#13
UberFreak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: the world Posts: 439	http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Up...item25a4dc17a7 Here you go. There are plenty of sellers selling at this price range, I bought several units a few months ago.

02 May 2015, 02:23	#15
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,813	Looks like a generic floppy emulator. I'm guessing it works as Uberfreak has used it on his amiga.

02 May 2015, 02:36	#16
UberFreak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: the world Posts: 439	They're not a knockoff, look at the 3rd picture in my link, it clearly shows the Gotek logo on the unit. Before the Amiga firmware showed up, nearly all sellers advertised these units only as "floppy emulator", without the Gotek name. Only after people started calling them "Goteks", many sellers started using that.

02 May 2015, 02:40	#17
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,813	Looks different to mine. But if it works and they ship to your country then thumbs up. What firmware does that gotek run?

02 May 2015, 02:52	#18
UberFreak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: the world Posts: 439	The original one from Gotek of course, you need to flash Herve's FW for Amiga use. The flashing cable is ~$3 from China, shipping included.

02 May 2015, 03:41	#20
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Flashing is difficult. I need Windows XP. I would like an external unit that could work as DF0 or DF1 with a switch. Not filing or cutting the case. I want also the floppy drive sound. (Just what I want) Edit: I would add a large lcd screen to show names instead of numbers, but no idea if that's possible.

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