amigans grow up !!!!!

turrican3 · 25 February 2010, 22:12

look at the end of the obligement interview with Simon Archer

http://obligement.free.fr/articles_t...warcher_en.php

What is your opinion about the AmigaOne X1000 ?

Lovely.

A last message for the Amiga community ?

Honestly? "Grow up!", it's like a nursery school in those forums most days.

i think this is true because nobody seems to enjoy and continue to troll about new amiga x1000 or always complaining ...... about what ????? i don't know we are lucky to have again a new amiga, where is the new atari, the new amstrad , the new commodore ?????
we are lucky guys because some company continue the fight and we don't seem to appreciate it to its good value.
thank you hyperion, thank you a-eon thank you all programmers which continue to keep alive the amiga spirit, let's go guys, i wish you the best.

ps : thank you Toni

Twiggy · 25 February 2010, 22:17

Let's hope the X1000 isn't vapourware.

turrican3 · 25 February 2010, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by twiggy

Let's hope the X1000 isn't vapourware.

i don't think so, this is no more amiga inc.
hyperion always did what they announced

Paul_s · 25 February 2010, 22:28

Like I've always said, I'm all for something new to play with. The annoying thing with the x1000 for me was the website they created with all the 'games' they were playing and secrecy surrounding it.

If they were more open with things and showed us how they are progressing/got real with the project..... people would take them far more seriously instead of saying "two more weeks", "vapourware" etc.

The truth is they need money and a userbase.... and the Amiga OS4 userbase is pretty small...

Retro-Nerd · 25 February 2010, 22:34

Grow up? I could say the same about a guy who programmed a pointless ubergeek OS like Amiga OS4, used by app. 3,5 people.

Twiggy · 25 February 2010, 22:35

It would probably be better to of done that website stuff closer to the launch, but what do I know.

So long as I have enough money when/if it's released, I'll be sure to get one.

I've never used OS4 though, I'm guessing there are at least basic applications to suit basic needs.

Djay · 26 February 2010, 01:42

i actually found this really funny... he sounds like a nightmare to interview... he thinks he some sort of pop star, where you can be basically rude to everyone

i like the way he feels the need not to repeat himself rather than offering a quick summary for those that dont know

sure he has some sort of talent for Amiga software and has developed some interesting hardware, this has made him feel superior to everyone else

however, he has forgotten the Amiga will always be a retro computer, given the option i would love to see an Amiga branded computer be successful in a modern computer world, but why would it be... the Amiga had (at the time) serious advantages over the competition, but failed to developed (or developed too slowly) technical innovations.

today any AmigaOS platform offers no advantages over the force that is the mighty PC or Apple's innovations in terms of hardware and OS

the only people interested in an AmigaOS are the people he is telling to grow up...

talent... yes

public relations... no

and guess what, its the public that buy stuff

Dan Locke · 26 February 2010, 05:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djay

the Amiga had (at the time) serious advantages over the competition, but failed to developed (or developed too slowly) technical innovations.

What's really infuriating is that Miner and co. designed more chipsets that would have kept the Amiga at the leading edge of computer technology (think X68000/Archimedes power), but Gould and Ali refused to put them into production. They only reluctantly released AGA in 1992, and it was pitiful compared to the unreleased chipsets (indeed, it wasn't even special by the standards of the time).

If I ever see Ali on the street, I'll punch him in the face and scream at him for a good half hour.

Minuous · 26 February 2010, 08:30

>They only reluctantly released AGA in 1993

1992 actually.

>Like I've always said, I'm all for something new to play with. The annoying thing with the x1000 for me was the website they created with all the 'games' they were playing and secrecy surrounding it.
>If they were more open with things and showed us how they are progressing/got real with the project..... people would take them far more seriously instead of saying "two more weeks", "vapourware" etc.

I agree completely. The combination of announcing vapourware and employing dickheads like the one who was interviewed has really turned me off Hyperion in the last few months.

FOL · 26 February 2010, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

A last message for the Amiga community ?

Honestly? "Grow up!", it's like a nursery school in those forums most days.

Well that sums him up. Maybe he goes to all the boring forums.

jPV · 26 February 2010, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

hyperion always did what they announced

Except the things they didn't (Realsoft 3D, DOpus Magellan2, few games like Worms Armageddon etc. Remember?)

gilgamesh · 26 February 2010, 09:59

1. I don't think it is vaporware. Hyperion depends on having a platform for its software, and sam is getting old. Either X1000 actually happens, or Hyperion will fade away.

2. I do think it was quite clever to announce the X1000 before high prices and low specs could spoil things.

TCD · 26 February 2010, 11:04

Quote:

Users wait new features like a new shell, a new Workbench, USB 2.0 support or better 3D drivers. Do you know if these new features will be in the next release of the system ?

I don't even know when the next update will be, let alone what's going to be in it.

Hmm, shouldn't he know? Anyway, I really love the bit about 'growing up'

Wonder if he really want's that to happen

Merlin · 26 February 2010, 11:14

That guy is so far up his own arse I'm surprised he can see daylight at all....

How to win friends and influence people, eh? He seems to have forgotten that the "nurseries" are the exact reason that they have a potential market for the new machine now.....if they hadn't survived, they wouldn't have a market, and also the reason there are a lot of trolls about is because of the screwing around they received from Hyperion.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.....

TCD · 26 February 2010, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin

That guy is so far up his own arse I'm surprised he can see daylight at all....

I think you have a vaild point there

Fabie · 26 February 2010, 12:34

grow up??

I think that the new Amiga X1000 project it's a scam project like Natami

seuden · 26 February 2010, 12:52

What you say is what you are, ner ner na ner ner.

26 February 2010, 13:18

That interview just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it. Hardly worth publishing.

xc8 · 26 February 2010, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

....where is the new atari, the new amstrad , the new commodore ?????..

'new' atari --> http://experiment-s.de/en

chris

desiv · 26 February 2010, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.....

But, as a Retro fan, the whole point of my being here (this forum) is to repeat history..
I kinda like that....

desiv

25 February 2010, 22:12	#1
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	amigans grow up !!!!! look at the end of the obligement interview with Simon Archer http://obligement.free.fr/articles_t...warcher_en.php What is your opinion about the AmigaOne X1000 ? Lovely. A last message for the Amiga community ? Honestly? "Grow up!", it's like a nursery school in those forums most days. i think this is true because nobody seems to enjoy and continue to troll about new amiga x1000 or always complaining ...... about what ????? i don't know we are lucky to have again a new amiga, where is the new atari, the new amstrad , the new commodore ????? we are lucky guys because some company continue the fight and we don't seem to appreciate it to its good value. thank you hyperion, thank you a-eon thank you all programmers which continue to keep alive the amiga spirit, let's go guys, i wish you the best. ps : thank you Toni

25 February 2010, 22:28	#4
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	Like I've always said, I'm all for something new to play with. The annoying thing with the x1000 for me was the website they created with all the 'games' they were playing and secrecy surrounding it. If they were more open with things and showed us how they are progressing/got real with the project..... people would take them far more seriously instead of saying "two more weeks", "vapourware" etc. The truth is they need money and a userbase.... and the Amiga OS4 userbase is pretty small... Last edited by Paul_s; 25 February 2010 at 22:55.

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25 February 2010, 22:17	#2
Twiggy \m/ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Devon, U.K. Posts: 573	Let's hope the X1000 isn't vapourware.

25 February 2010, 22:34	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Grow up? I could say the same about a guy who programmed a pointless ubergeek OS like Amiga OS4, used by app. 3,5 people.

25 February 2010, 22:35	#6
Twiggy \m/ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Devon, U.K. Posts: 573	It would probably be better to of done that website stuff closer to the launch, but what do I know. So long as I have enough money when/if it's released, I'll be sure to get one. I've never used OS4 though, I'm guessing there are at least basic applications to suit basic needs.

26 February 2010, 01:42	#7
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	i actually found this really funny... he sounds like a nightmare to interview... he thinks he some sort of pop star, where you can be basically rude to everyone i like the way he feels the need not to repeat himself rather than offering a quick summary for those that dont know sure he has some sort of talent for Amiga software and has developed some interesting hardware, this has made him feel superior to everyone else however, he has forgotten the Amiga will always be a retro computer, given the option i would love to see an Amiga branded computer be successful in a modern computer world, but why would it be... the Amiga had (at the time) serious advantages over the competition, but failed to developed (or developed too slowly) technical innovations. today any AmigaOS platform offers no advantages over the force that is the mighty PC or Apple's innovations in terms of hardware and OS the only people interested in an AmigaOS are the people he is telling to grow up... talent... yes public relations... no and guess what, its the public that buy stuff

26 February 2010, 08:30	#9
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	>They only reluctantly released AGA in 1993 1992 actually. >Like I've always said, I'm all for something new to play with. The annoying thing with the x1000 for me was the website they created with all the 'games' they were playing and secrecy surrounding it. >If they were more open with things and showed us how they are progressing/got real with the project..... people would take them far more seriously instead of saying "two more weeks", "vapourware" etc. I agree completely. The combination of announcing vapourware and employing dickheads like the one who was interviewed has really turned me off Hyperion in the last few months.

26 February 2010, 09:59	#12
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	1. I don't think it is vaporware. Hyperion depends on having a platform for its software, and sam is getting old. Either X1000 actually happens, or Hyperion will fade away. 2. I do think it was quite clever to announce the X1000 before high prices and low specs could spoil things.

26 February 2010, 11:14	#14
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	That guy is so far up his own arse I'm surprised he can see daylight at all.... How to win friends and influence people, eh? He seems to have forgotten that the "nurseries" are the exact reason that they have a potential market for the new machine now.....if they hadn't survived, they wouldn't have a market, and also the reason there are a lot of trolls about is because of the screwing around they received from Hyperion. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.....

26 February 2010, 12:34	#16
Fabie Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: France Posts: 478	grow up?? I think that the new Amiga X1000 project it's a scam project like Natami

26 February 2010, 12:52	#17
seuden uber cool demi god Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent/England Posts: 2,073	What you say is what you are, ner ner na ner ner.

26 February 2010, 13:18	#18
Moto Posts: n/a	That interview just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it. Hardly worth publishing.

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