[Ongoing] Powerglove

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Akira

Yes I think this could be a problem, but to be fair, what pad are you using? Maybe a different pad would help you not do this.

I use a CD32 pad which buttons and directional control are a bit hard.

Anyway, would such an option add that much complexity to the code to implement ? After all, this kind of feature (redefining controls combinations) have been used countless time on computers and consoles since the last 25 years or so. Even today on next gen console games it's a quite common feature...

[Lazycow]

Ok, thanks for all the input! Seems like I have to keep the settings menu in the title:
jump: up / 2nd button / both
mode: classic / enhanced

The powerboots give a bit Cave Story feeling, indeed. But don't go so far an compare the whole game with this jewel...

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Lazycow

Ok, thanks for all the input! Seems like I have to keep the settings menu in the title:
jump: up / 2nd button / both
mode: classic / enhanced

The powerboots give a bit Cave Story feeling, indeed. But don't go so far an compare the whole game with this jewel...

That's it ! It's the sprite jumping/flying with its "powerboots" that gave me this feeling.

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

I use a CD32 pad which buttons and directional control are a bit hard.

Yeah CD32's D-pad sucks a lot. Try a nice official 6 button Megadrive pad. You'll never have this problem again.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Akira

Yeah CD32's D-pad sucks a lot. Try a nice official 6 button Megadrive pad. You'll never have this problem again.

Well, I hope the 6 buttons Megadrive pad is better than the 3 buttons one. I have a 3 buttons Megadrive pad modded for my MSX2+ and the controls are hard too... It seems I have no luck with pads.

[Solo Kazuki]

Originally Posted by Lazycow

Ok, thanks for all the input! Seems like I have to keep the settings menu in the title:
jump: up / 2nd button / both
mode: classic / enhanced

Game is more and more interesting. Just one more humble request as hi-score collecting fan - high score table with hi-saver & saving current options.

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Well, I hope the 6 buttons Megadrive pad is better than the 3 buttons one.

Oh DEFINITELY. Look:



The difference is in two things: one, you notice how much "air" there is between the D-pad and the circle encasing it? This helps because you clearly see and feel where you are pointing at. The 3 button pad is very tight. The 6 button pad is also "raised", it has a LOT more air below the D-pad, so a push will depress the direction noticeably, unlike on the 3 button pads.

The second and most important thing is, that D-Pad on the 6 button controller has a soft click feel to it. So there's no way you can hit a diagonal without feeling two clicks on your thumb. The 3 button one is kinda "seamless" when you press it around and this kind of behavior is terrible for diagonals. Guess what other pad does this? Yep, the CD32 pad.

The 6 button MD pad is by all means the definitive pad controller for the DB-9 port crowd.
And don't get the cheapie knock off shit, it is nothing like the original. Make sure you get the real deal. In my photo that's my European 6 button pad. American ones have a grey Start button. Knockoffs usually have a slightly different shape and a light blue Start button. Never seen japanese 6 button pads, but I guess the knockoffs are trying to copy those so to be safe I'd go for an Euro or US pad. About the shape, if the encasing of the fire buttons seems to be closer to the bottom of the case than what you see in my pic, it's fake or shit, do not get it.


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Sorry Lazycow

[idrougge]

Originally Posted by Akira

The 6 button MD pad is by all means the definitive pad controller for the DB-9 port crowd.

Let me add a contender:

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by idrougge

Let me add a contender:

I never tried that one, never managed to find it around, on first look it feels like the diagonals could be a problem too because the space between the D-ad and the encasing circle is small. But I'd have to try.
The other advantage of MD pads is availability, they're everywhere.

But this Logic pad has SMS functionality so right out of the box it will work with more games.

[Jack Burton]

Originally Posted by Akira

The 3 button one is kinda "seamless" when you press it around and this kind of behavior is terrible for diagonals.

Exactly. It's really what I feel when I use both of my pads.

OK. This 6 buttons pad seems the one to get indeed. Thanx for the info !

[Lazycow]

The (improved) 1st level is finished now. And at the end: A miniboss...
Next up: Level 2

[WayneK]

It's looking really good Lazycow, I'm looking forward to this one when it's finished!

[ReadOnlyCat]

Why can't we "like/+1/vote-for" posts?
Excellent effort Lazycow!

[Lazycow]

@Solo Kazuki: Currently, there're no plans for a highscore table, sorry. It would take quite some time to include it and my motivation starts to fade away. Time to finish it.


Still working on level-2: Did you ever ask yourself what's beyond these tubes? Here's a sneak peek...

[Predseda]

Shame, it means the game is not suitable for Lemon / EAB compo.

[Lazycow]

Ah, you're trying to entrap me...
However, there's a score. But it comes with a drawback: Every time you re-enter a room, all killed robots are there again. An easy way to get a high score would be just kill easy robots in the same room.
What's the way out? Tricky... tricky... tricky... Maybe only add score if you enter the room for the 1st time?

[Predseda]

(Doesn't matter if the game is compo-friendly or not, of course)

[Gzegzolka]

Nice title-set I wonder how other areas will looks.

[Lazycow]

Well, I guess Powerglove does not have much diversity in the backgrounds... Here's the same room with all three themes, as an example...

[Solo Kazuki]

Originally Posted by Lazycow

@Solo Kazuki: Currently, there're no plans for a highscore table, sorry. It would take quite some time to include it and my motivation starts to fade away. Time to finish it.

I completely understand You, because i have some unfinished projects just because "fade of motivation".

But You can always add it after finishing game, something like "v1.1 with hi-saver". No hurry.

Originally Posted by Lazycow

Ah, you're trying to entrap me...
However, there's a score. But it comes with a drawback: Every time you re-enter a room, all killed robots are there again. An easy way to get a high score would be just kill easy robots in the same room.
What's the way out? Tricky... tricky... tricky... Maybe only add score if you enter the room for the 1st time?

Well... there's always grinding risk, even in more complex games like RPGs.
You can always do something like in Super Wonderboy, where you get bonus for 1st kill of monster, points for 2nd and nothing for next kills. Good idea will be points only for 1st kill, nothing for next kills.