WinUAE Lite

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 19:39

Hi Toni,

What are the chances of getting a slimmed down version of WinUAE with all the gumpf removed?

Things like the expansions tab, rtg board removed.

I am thinking something that has say the quickstart options along with some more common configurations (maybe an 030, extra fastram, JIT) etc

What are your thoughts, and the thoughts of other members?

Leandro Jardim · 11 November 2018, 20:06

Some time ago there were a smaller WinUAE version with A500 support only. I was thinking too about that but I would like a version for the A1200.

I believe that if that version were created, theoretically it "would have" fewer variants that caused bugs.

But I think JIT "could" be a bad choice because it is a constant source of problems for Toni.

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Why?

I don't ever use the "Expansions", "RTG board" or "Hardware info" sections but just ignore them... no biggie

Because it is quite slow in some areas (Emulation is fine). For example opening a menu after WinUAE has been running a while takes a few seconds.

My system is adequate

Intel i5
16gb DDR3
Geforce 1070

etc

DamienD · 11 November 2018, 20:22

Ooops, sorry deleted my post and then you replied bipstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

Hi Toni,

What are the chances of getting a slimmed down version of WinUAE with all the gumpf removed?

Things like the expansions tab, rtg board removed.

I am thinking something that has say the quickstart options along with some more common configurations (maybe an 030, extra fastram, JIT) etc

What are your thoughts, and the thoughts of other members?

Why?

I don't ever use the "Expansions", "RTG board" or "Hardware info" sections but just ignore them... no biggie

...and the thing is that WinUAE caters for many different types of hardware / setups these days

Users have various needs so what would be the ideal "slimmed down version" anyway? You would never keep everyone happy...

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Ooops, sorry deleted my post and then you replied bipstar

Why?

I don't ever use the "Expansions", "RTG board" or "Hardware info" sections but just ignore them... no biggie

...and the thing is that WinUAE caters for many different types of hardware / setups these days

Users have various needs so what would be the ideal "slimmed down version" anyway? You would never keep everyone happy...

That is my point.. Becuase there are so many requests, and Toni himself likes implementing "pointless" features I wondered if it was possible to have a lighter version. I suspect it would be too much work removing features anyway.

The ideal slimmed down version would be what I put in the first post. Catering for the quickstart and maybe having some other options like 030, extra memory etc..

Maybe it is my imagination or my system that is the cause ofg the gui often taking an age to open"

DamienD · 11 November 2018, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

Maybe it is my imagination or my system that is the cause ofg the gui often taking an age to open"

Other people have reported that when using my collection, but I have thousands of configuration files that need to be processed for "boxart"...

It takes about 6 seconds for me, which I'm cool with

Without any configuration files though, WinUAE takes one second to load.

Anyway, you can try ticking "Cache Configuration files" under "Paths" I guess if you have many configs.

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 20:37

I find that after it has been running a while opening the gui takes longer and longer..

I have about 15 configs in total (Your install is seperate

)

DamienD · 11 November 2018, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

I find that after it has been running a while opening the gui takes longer and longer..

Must admit that I've never experienced that.

Do you usually load a config, mess around and when you want to load another config, press <F12> and then load straight from there?

Personally I always quit emulation before starting another configuration file.

Leandro Jardim · 11 November 2018, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

That is my point.. Becuase there are so many requests, and Toni himself likes implementing "pointless" features I wondered if it was possible to have a lighter version. I suspect it would be too much work removing features anyway.

I think that too. There are features that are not often used by most people, but removing them should be much more work than implementing them at first place.

I dream that someday some talented coder jump on the wagon to help Toni with WinUAE, accomplishing the wishes of the people that Toni could not help yet.

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 20:43

No mate. Load a config and just use it. Currently I am tosec renaming my non-tosec collection

DamienD · 11 November 2018, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

No mate. Load a config and just use it. Currently I am tosec renaming my non-tosec collection

Sorry for asking loads of questions, just trying to get a feel for the background / what's occurring when it's slow for you.

Anyway, I've been using the same instance of WinUAE for hours when creating "[AmigaCD] --> .HDFs" and never experienced what you've mentioned.

Leandro Jardim · 11 November 2018, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

No mate. Load a config and just use it. Currently I am tosec renaming my non-tosec collection

Could be just Windows 10 slowing down your computer.

I'm not an expert on this, but from what little I know there is no way for an instance of WinUAE to interfere with the following instances being executed afterwards, NOT WinUAE.

Windows 10 has problems on many systems but most people do not feel confident in commenting because they know the only solution is to wait for the next Windows Update or try to reinstall Windows again in vain...

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Sorry for asking loads of questions, just trying to get a feel for the background / what's occurring when it's slow for you.

Anyway, I've been using the same instance of WinUAE for hours when creating "[AmigaCD] --> .HDFs" and never experienced what you've mentioned.

Right now it seems fine, when it slows I'll try and grab an avi and up to youtube. This also isn't limited to any specific version of WinUAE either

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leandro Jardim

Could be just Windows 10 slowing down your computer.

I'm not an expert on this, but from what little I know there is no way for an instance of WinUAE to interfere with the following instances being executed afterwards, NOT WinUAE.

Windows 10 has problems on many systems but most people do not feel confident in commenting because they know the only solution is to wait for the next Windows Update or try to reinstall Windows again in vain...

Could be!

Leandro Jardim · 11 November 2018, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by BippyM

Could be!

Yes, it is, I am one of those people of course! (I have own experience)

DamienD · 11 November 2018, 21:09

I still use Windows 7 [64-bit] at home and refuse to go to Windows 10...

I do however, have to use this at work, and am currently more than halfway through an IT project of rolling it out to all 1200 users in the London office.

BippyM · 11 November 2018, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I still use Windows 7 [64-bit] at home and refuse to go to Windows 10...

I do however, have to use this at work, and am currently more than halfway through an IT project of rolling it out to all 1200 users in the London office.

Whoaaaah 1200 users

Leandro Jardim · 11 November 2018, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I still use Windows 7 [64-bit] at home and refuse to go to Windows 10...

I wanted to use Windows 7 on my notebook, but I can't because it has compatibility issues with this system (specifically lack of drivers).

Toni Wilen · 12 November 2018, 18:22

No Windows version discussions allowed here!

And also No to "lite" version. But GUI opening slowly has nothing to do with GUI complexity.

First step is to test if all GUI panels open slowly or only some specific ones.
Also try ticking "take screenshot before filtering".

BippyM · 12 November 2018, 20:02

I'm confused.

No. Discussion of windows version of uae (winuae) in the winuae support forum.. What am I missing?

Retro-Nerd · 12 November 2018, 20:23

Toni meant no Windows 7 vs Windows 10 discussion.

11 November 2018, 19:39	#1
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	WinUAE Lite Hi Toni, What are the chances of getting a slimmed down version of WinUAE with all the gumpf removed? Things like the expansions tab, rtg board removed. I am thinking something that has say the quickstart options along with some more common configurations (maybe an 030, extra fastram, JIT) etc What are your thoughts, and the thoughts of other members?

11 November 2018, 20:06	#2
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Some time ago there were a smaller WinUAE version with A500 support only. I was thinking too about that but I would like a version for the A1200. I believe that if that version were created, theoretically it "would have" fewer variants that caused bugs. But I think JIT "could" be a bad choice because it is a constant source of problems for Toni. Last edited by Leandro Jardim; 11 November 2018 at 20:13.

12 November 2018, 20:23	#20
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Toni meant no Windows 7 vs Windows 10 discussion. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 12 November 2018 at 21:55.

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11 November 2018, 20:37	#7
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I find that after it has been running a while opening the gui takes longer and longer.. I have about 15 configs in total (Your install is seperate )

11 November 2018, 20:43	#10
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	No mate. Load a config and just use it. Currently I am tosec renaming my non-tosec collection

11 November 2018, 21:09	#15
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I still use Windows 7 [64-bit] at home and refuse to go to Windows 10... I do however, have to use this at work, and am currently more than halfway through an IT project of rolling it out to all 1200 users in the London office.

12 November 2018, 18:22	#18
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	No Windows version discussions allowed here! And also No to "lite" version. But GUI opening slowly has nothing to do with GUI complexity. First step is to test if all GUI panels open slowly or only some specific ones. Also try ticking "take screenshot before filtering".

12 November 2018, 20:02	#19
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I'm confused. No. Discussion of windows version of uae (winuae) in the winuae support forum.. What am I missing?

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