Unreleased Amiga demo in Zone

Galahad/FLT · 26 October 2005, 20:04

Done a long time ago by me, for whatever reason, it never got released, so I've given it a quick finish off and now its in the Zone.

Just thought it should get an airing!

Should just mention, unarchive, and then Innocence file is the starter

mr_0rga5m · 27 October 2005, 00:23

Fired it over to my real A1200 .. Its excellent mate

Photon · 27 October 2005, 00:29

always nice to see people digging out their old demos! more! more!

i'll be checking it out for sure.

btw i just found an old source disk from 91 or something! gotta get it into winuae somehow...

Photon · 27 October 2005, 01:13

Some very nice girl pictures there, I especially liked ... I think the third one in.

The wipes between pictures put me off though, on the like 10th picture it took something like 3 minutes to slide in the vertical pieces. I'm afraid I pressed Alt+F4 then

I'm running a basic A1200 config which works well with AGA games, am I doing something wrong or was there a reason for those slow wipes?

And is there some way of showing interlaced correctly in WinUAE?

Galahad/FLT · 27 October 2005, 12:06

The demo wasn't 100% finished so not all effects were 100% finished. I only ever ran it on A1200 with fast ram so I suppose it would be a little slower on chip mem only.

WinUAE didn't like the very wipe you mention

rodi · 27 October 2005, 21:20

Hello Everybody,

I use the preconfigured emulator Winuae Amiga in a Box and I don't succeed to start the demo Innocence : I click on the executable file Innocence, I choose one of the version, but the demo doesn't start.

Which configuration should I use to start the demo ?

Galahad/FLT · 27 October 2005, 21:44

AGA Configuration is what is needed, Kickstart 3.1, 2meg chip ram, a bit of slow mem probably wouldn't hurt either.

StingRay · 26 December 2005, 05:40

Quote:

Done a long time ago by me, for whatever reason, it never got released

Well, not completely correct since I have released my version of Innocence way back in September 2000. You can get Innocence here.

guardiansknight · 26 December 2005, 12:11

how do you get access to 'The Zone'?

TheBoss · 26 December 2005, 12:37

Read the FAQ!

Codetapper · 26 December 2005, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Well, not completely correct since I have released my version of Innocence way back in September 2000. You can get Innocence here.

So who exactly did this demo then? On the one hand you have Galahad saying he did it, and yet 5 years earlier and already available for download is Stingray's version? So what's the deal?

PS: Galahad: Have you unpacked your stuff from the nth house move so you can send back all those floppy disks to their owners soon?

kriz · 27 December 2005, 07:53

Codetapper: Read the nfo, you know who is hiding behind the Style handle

Codetapper · 27 December 2005, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriz

Codetapper: Read the nfo, you know who is hiding behind the Style handle

Well I still don't follow, there are a lot of crazy things with this release imho:

1. The readme implies Galahad did not make the slideshow, I don't understand why anyone would write a different name on it unless they were completely embarrassed by their work. Quoting Galahad at the bottom, or is that trying to be tricky and make out it wasn't him?

2. This bit in the readme: "since I've deleted all sources (Length of Main-Source without any includes: 159.277 Bytes) a few seconds ago, because Zoltrix told me a few days ago, that the slideshow project has been cancelled and I'm kinda angry about that."

Somebody says a project is cancelled so you go and delete all sources? How f*cking stupid can you get? That's like having a full unreleased game on your computer (and the only copy in existance) and deciding to just delete it! Rocks in the head material...

Overall a very strange release... The pics were very good at least!

Galahad/FLT · 05 January 2006, 13:08

I have the source code to Innocence in its entirety on my hard drive, it was coded 100% by me and no-one else. I didn't release the source code to Innocence to anyone else either.

I don't need to lie about it, in fact, Codetapper can act as an intermediary and inspect some of the code if he so wishes.

I coded it, any other versions I have no clue about.

Codetapper · 06 January 2006, 00:34

How different is the Galahad version to the Style one? Very odd that the Style version mentions problems with a particular effect and it sounds like it's an identical problem to an effect in Galahad's! How can that be? Are the pictures identical in both versions?

mr_0rga5m · 06 January 2006, 01:34

Heh .. Perhaps Galahad got pirated

BippyM · 06 January 2006, 10:34

obv there are 2 copies of the source code or the demo was internally released and got leaked!

Galahad/FLT · 07 January 2006, 02:05

I didn't release the source code to anyone. Someone else in Faction did their attempts just to prove if they could do anything, but all they came up with was a couple of fades because they didn't know how to support AGA pictures without some sort of IFF viewer!!!

Quite simple really. Compare the code in mine to theirs, I don't think for one second it will be remotely similar. I have a very individual coding style.

Dalai · 07 January 2006, 08:25

I missed this, can someone please re-up it to the Zone?

Thanks!

StingRay · 08 January 2006, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codetapper

So who exactly did this demo then? On the one hand you have Galahad saying he did it, and yet 5 years earlier and already available for download is Stingray's version? So what's the deal?

It was me who did it, actually I already finished most of it in 1999 already. As Galahad might remember, I also uploaded weekly previews of the slide in the Faction internal conference of Spaced Out (Zoltrix' BBS). After I had finished the major part of the slideshow, I was waiting for some longer module, a new font for the textwriter Wade had promised to draw and some other things. Sadly I never got those and so I finally released the slide in unfinished state in September 2ooo after I heard that the whole project was cancelled by Zoltrix. This btw was also the reason for me to delete all sources and stuff since I was totally fed up with that damn slideshow back then.
I just released it because I had promised Wade to finish the slide for him. Well, later I worked on some other things together with him, too bad he seems to have lost interest in demoscene forever now. :/

Anyway, I hope everything is clear now, if not feel free to ask me.

26 October 2005, 20:04	#1
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	Unreleased Amiga demo in Zone Done a long time ago by me, for whatever reason, it never got released, so I've given it a quick finish off and now its in the Zone. Just thought it should get an airing! Should just mention, unarchive, and then Innocence file is the starter

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27 October 2005, 00:23	#2
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	Fired it over to my real A1200 .. Its excellent mate

27 October 2005, 00:29	#3
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,604	always nice to see people digging out their old demos! more! more! i'll be checking it out for sure. btw i just found an old source disk from 91 or something! gotta get it into winuae somehow...

27 October 2005, 01:13	#4
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,604	Some very nice girl pictures there, I especially liked ... I think the third one in. The wipes between pictures put me off though, on the like 10th picture it took something like 3 minutes to slide in the vertical pieces. I'm afraid I pressed Alt+F4 then I'm running a basic A1200 config which works well with AGA games, am I doing something wrong or was there a reason for those slow wipes? And is there some way of showing interlaced correctly in WinUAE?

27 October 2005, 12:06	#5
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	The demo wasn't 100% finished so not all effects were 100% finished. I only ever ran it on A1200 with fast ram so I suppose it would be a little slower on chip mem only. WinUAE didn't like the very wipe you mention

27 October 2005, 21:20	#6
rodi Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Age: 48 Posts: 96	Hello Everybody, I use the preconfigured emulator Winuae Amiga in a Box and I don't succeed to start the demo Innocence : I click on the executable file Innocence, I choose one of the version, but the demo doesn't start. Which configuration should I use to start the demo ?

27 October 2005, 21:44	#7
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	AGA Configuration is what is needed, Kickstart 3.1, 2meg chip ram, a bit of slow mem probably wouldn't hurt either.

26 December 2005, 12:11	#9
guardiansknight Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sunderland Age: 43 Posts: 53	how do you get access to 'The Zone'?

26 December 2005, 12:37	#10
TheBoss Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 840	Read the FAQ!

27 December 2005, 07:53	#12
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,198	Codetapper: Read the nfo, you know who is hiding behind the Style handle

05 January 2006, 13:08	#14
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	I have the source code to Innocence in its entirety on my hard drive, it was coded 100% by me and no-one else. I didn't release the source code to Innocence to anyone else either. I don't need to lie about it, in fact, Codetapper can act as an intermediary and inspect some of the code if he so wishes. I coded it, any other versions I have no clue about.

06 January 2006, 00:34	#15
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	How different is the Galahad version to the Style one? Very odd that the Style version mentions problems with a particular effect and it sounds like it's an identical problem to an effect in Galahad's! How can that be? Are the pictures identical in both versions?

06 January 2006, 01:34	#16
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	Heh .. Perhaps Galahad got pirated

06 January 2006, 10:34	#17
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	obv there are 2 copies of the source code or the demo was internally released and got leaked!

07 January 2006, 02:05	#18
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	I didn't release the source code to anyone. Someone else in Faction did their attempts just to prove if they could do anything, but all they came up with was a couple of fades because they didn't know how to support AGA pictures without some sort of IFF viewer!!! Quite simple really. Compare the code in mine to theirs, I don't think for one second it will be remotely similar. I have a very individual coding style.

07 January 2006, 08:25	#19
Dalai Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: UK Posts: 148	I missed this, can someone please re-up it to the Zone? Thanks!

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