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Old 02 August 2011, 11:16   #1
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Question What games contain Rob Northen's protect program or source?

Years ago I knew of a game (or perhaps 2) that seemed to have been mastered with some of Rob Northen's tools on it. It was either an early version of the Protect program that encrypted the game, or some source code or a key disk maker or something. It might have been "deleted" off the disk and you had to use an undelete tool to find it. That may be incorrect though!

My initial guess was one of the Bitmap's early games like Speedball or Xenon, but they don't seem to be correct. Does anyone remember?

Does anyone recall what it was?
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Old 02 August 2011, 11:50   #2
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Hook has it !!! I remember back in the day finding it on the save disk
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I'm sure it was a very early game from about 1988 or 1989.

Hook (if we're talking about the Ocean game) has 4 disks, disks 1, 2 and 4 are NDOS, and disk 3 appears empty. Are you talking about a cracked version? Can you zone the disk if you have it please?
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If I remember correctly, you can find some of Rob Northen's stuff on the Xenon 2 disks. Not 100% sure though and I can't check at the moment.
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I know its not games, but I've Zoned two rar files with RNC stuff
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Thanks. It's indeed on Xenon 2 (SPS 2874) disk 1.
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Some parts are available on Elf disk, but most data is overwritten.
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Old 02 August 2011, 18:54   #8
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Thanks. It's indeed on Xenon 2 (SPS 2874) disk 1.
I remembered seeing them when the game got released by Paranoimia. I wondered if that was something the crackers added.
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Old 22 January 2012, 22:00   #9
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This jogs my memory, I recall finding these on an SPS release while I was compiling a list of games that use manual protection in this thread:

KDM_EA
KeyDiskMaker
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serialno

Are these what you refer too? I'll try to find the disk!!
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Yeah those are the files. From memory it will always create a key using the same key calculation routine (later on there were about 8 variants) and the serialno program always assumes that calculation.
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Old 22 January 2012, 23:04   #11
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Ok, found them and uploaded them to the Zone: RNC_Tools.lha

What use are they and how the heck do you use them though?

OOPS!! Forgot to say what disk it was, SPS 2793: Joan of Arc Disk 1. All the files are in the root directory of the first disk.

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Joke: Do you think Rob Northen and Shawn Southern should get together and create a sequel to North and South - called Northen and Southern...? ...Perhaps not.
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