Aros amiga system - Page 3

mjnurney · 22 July 2010, 22:23

Anyway uploading some pics (not very exciting) to imagehost

i have a couple of better ones but iphone refuses to give them up!
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0617/IMG_0037
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0308/IMG_0036
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0006/IMG_0033
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0701/IMG_0032
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0876/IMG_0031

So Aros works well but UAE (for me) is very poor because of the sound and as i have to wait for an adaptor to arrive for my dvd drive (laptop to sata) so i cannot upgrade or change Aros to X Amiga or Linux or heaven forbid windows xp and try UAE on those systems..

Zetr0 · 23 July 2010, 00:31

USB stick ?

I have made many a bootable/installables from USB (not Amithalon) but plenty of Linux and XP -

all you need is a 2gig pen drive and VWOM! done in 20 minutes =)

last one I made was Ubuntu 10.4 and its was a superfly dream - alas it was on a laptop with integrated ATI x1100 graphics and well.... lets just say ATI suck at supporting linux.

mjnurney · 23 July 2010, 08:14

yes i may go via usb stick and try a different os

Zetr0 · 23 July 2010, 10:57

I was quite taken with Ubuntu - that worked on everything pretty much everything outa the box - The only thing it didn't support is 3D acceleration (thanks to ATI) and the SD Card input of the Laptop.

The above is also true for Fedora 11, however theres somthing broken with Fedora 12 and 13 as I couldn't get it to work with the domain... even after two days and forum trolling I still couldn't get it to play ball... it could use wireless / hardline internet - but couldn't access the work group.

Now a Funny thing neither of these heavy weight *Nix distros used the Acer5100's touchpad.. even after hunting synaptics (not the viri company) for and installing it... no dice and no go...

However... ICAROS.... complete support and works a treat!!!!! hows that!!!

I am just a tad miffed at ATI's distinct lack of *Nix support for pretty much any of thier gfx card chipsets - even their flag-ship cards are poorly supported and their itegrated graphics chips support.... well.... I doubt the X1100 or M2/3 series will ever get an official release.

I even attempt to install the *suposed* X1100 cataliyst linux drivers... but they are broken by design and totally f'd up Fedora to the point where I had to re-install it.

In the end I found Ubuntu to be a good distro for -off the shelf compatability- I am sure if I spent more time with the right linux distro but to be honest had it of been an NVidia card in the Acer then this would not be a problem.

from their website

Quote:

Automated installer and Display Drivers for X.Org 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, or 7.4

The drivers above support English only.
The display driver requires POSIX shared memory to be enabled on the system.
Kernal Sources package is no longer required if Kernel Header package is installed.

I even found a petition online- petitioning ATI to make proper functional Linux Drivers for their cards.

Jimbo · 23 July 2010, 11:17

If you just want to test a version of UAE on your machine. I would goto amigasys as they have a bootable linux USB stick download just for E-UAE. As for Ubuntu, meh I would use Mepis if I were you. Ubuntu is ok, but it gets more like windows everyday ie bloaty it also uses a lot of test software. Mepis is based on stable and is just what it says. Anyway amigasys linux live usb stick download:

http://amigasys.ultimateamiga.co.uk/live.html

@Zetr0 http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Smxi if you grab this script it will install the graphic drivers for you, as long as its supported by the xorg version.

The sgfxi script automatically downloads and installs the kernel headers and every thing else it needs. This script downloads the binary graphic driver installers from either nvidia or ATI, prepares system, installs, then sets up xorg.conf, all in a fairly clean, reasonably intuitive way. Plus it updates itself so any new drivers released will be installed. Finally, sgfxi allows you to easily switch between proprietary non free drivers like ATI's fglrx and nVidia's nvidia driver and the free xorg drivers.
sgfxi can be run with numerous options. Enter sgfxi -h to see all the options and check the sgfxi Manual at the documentation links below.

Handy program for all Linux users. Got me out of trouble plenty of times, you can even restore the old drivers if you mess up.

phipscube · 23 July 2010, 13:57

I've just recently loaded AROS up off a USB stick on my Acer D250 Netbook. It runs very quickly, the sound is quite buggy, I had volume levels set in AHI, but it seems undividual programs and games can change the sound level. At one point I loaded up a game and it nearly killed my eardrums. I've not had change to get it running online just yet, but overall the small time i've had with it this last week had been quite fun. My Netbook normally boots into Ubuntu and although AROS doesn't compare so well to that, its nice to play around in a system so familiar to Classic Amiga. If they get Wifi sorted soon and do something about the sound issues then I think it would be quite useable. I will be tinkering a bit with it from now and have my eye on its progress.

mjnurney · 23 July 2010, 19:29

okay latest update...

Format and installed windows 7 and the latest UAE version.

results...

full screen or windowed - full sound and smooth game play.

the latest build of UAE has com eon a lot since i last used it, better GUi and far more options.

So i dont know what the problem is with Aros or UAE in Aros but there is a serious sound issue on the Atom 330 boards that is not a cpu speed issue but i suspect a bug in Aros or UAE (J-UAE and E-UAE)

as for speed on the Atom 330 , it boots windows 7 very quickly and does everything from the disk without extra drives - so no complaints here.

I like AROS but until UAE is sorted im sticking with Bill gates and his team, sorry

I tried to install X-Amiga but no joy with sata hard drives it seems , didnt see the usb stick either - oh well

prowler · 23 July 2010, 19:35

Hi mjnurney,

Perhaps you ought to submit a bug report to the AROS team, or at least refer them to this thread.

mjnurney · 23 July 2010, 19:47

i would but apart from saying i had a problem, i dont actually know whats at fault? Aros or UAE?

Jimbo · 23 July 2010, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjnurney

i would but apart from saying i had a problem, i dont actually know whats at fault? Aros or UAE?

Did you try a nightly build? You might have better luck

http://aros.sourceforge.net/download.php#nightly-builds

They contain the latest code which the main downloads might not.

tero · 23 July 2010, 20:12

@mjnurney
I see you posted on aros-exec too, if you look around there you will find talks that the problem may come from sdl (aros-uae is based on). There are sdl-games with that issue too.

Xenon · 24 July 2010, 04:35

Icaros website:

www.icarosdesktop.org

Works like a charm, real Amiga running in x86 machines

Hewitson · 24 July 2010, 05:45

Real Amiga?

There is absolutely nothing real about this setup at all.

rockersuke · 24 July 2010, 07:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon

Icaros website:

www.icarosdesktop.org

Works like a charm, real Amiga running in x86 machines

Hi Xenon!
Have you had any progress with the #8000010D editor crashing issue? I'm still fighting against it with no results ^_^'

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ArcadeHeart · 26 July 2010, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockersuke

Hi Xenon!
Have you had any progress with the #8000010D editor crashing issue? I'm still fighting against it with no results ^_^'

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Damn, I've the same problem on my acer aspire 5520, but while I set the post installation configuration

23 July 2010, 11:17	#45
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	If you just want to test a version of UAE on your machine. I would goto amigasys as they have a bootable linux USB stick download just for E-UAE. As for Ubuntu, meh I would use Mepis if I were you. Ubuntu is ok, but it gets more like windows everyday ie bloaty it also uses a lot of test software. Mepis is based on stable and is just what it says. Anyway amigasys linux live usb stick download: http://amigasys.ultimateamiga.co.uk/live.html @Zetr0 http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Smxi if you grab this script it will install the graphic drivers for you, as long as its supported by the xorg version. The sgfxi script automatically downloads and installs the kernel headers and every thing else it needs. This script downloads the binary graphic driver installers from either nvidia or ATI, prepares system, installs, then sets up xorg.conf, all in a fairly clean, reasonably intuitive way. Plus it updates itself so any new drivers released will be installed. Finally, sgfxi allows you to easily switch between proprietary non free drivers like ATI's fglrx and nVidia's nvidia driver and the free xorg drivers. sgfxi can be run with numerous options. Enter sgfxi -h to see all the options and check the sgfxi Manual at the documentation links below. Handy program for all Linux users. Got me out of trouble plenty of times, you can even restore the old drivers if you mess up. Last edited by Jimbo; 23 July 2010 at 11:32.

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22 July 2010, 22:23	#41
mjnurney Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Towcester, Northampton Posts: 311	Anyway uploading some pics (not very exciting) to imagehost i have a couple of better ones but iphone refuses to give them up! http://h.imagehost.org/view/0617/IMG_0037 http://h.imagehost.org/view/0308/IMG_0036 http://h.imagehost.org/view/0006/IMG_0033 http://h.imagehost.org/view/0701/IMG_0032 http://h.imagehost.org/view/0876/IMG_0031 So Aros works well but UAE (for me) is very poor because of the sound and as i have to wait for an adaptor to arrive for my dvd drive (laptop to sata) so i cannot upgrade or change Aros to X Amiga or Linux or heaven forbid windows xp and try UAE on those systems..

23 July 2010, 00:31	#42
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	USB stick ? I have made many a bootable/installables from USB (not Amithalon) but plenty of Linux and XP - all you need is a 2gig pen drive and VWOM! done in 20 minutes =) last one I made was Ubuntu 10.4 and its was a superfly dream - alas it was on a laptop with integrated ATI x1100 graphics and well.... lets just say ATI suck at supporting linux.

23 July 2010, 08:14	#43
mjnurney Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Towcester, Northampton Posts: 311	yes i may go via usb stick and try a different os

23 July 2010, 13:57	#46
phipscube WipEout Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ringsted / Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 263	I've just recently loaded AROS up off a USB stick on my Acer D250 Netbook. It runs very quickly, the sound is quite buggy, I had volume levels set in AHI, but it seems undividual programs and games can change the sound level. At one point I loaded up a game and it nearly killed my eardrums. I've not had change to get it running online just yet, but overall the small time i've had with it this last week had been quite fun. My Netbook normally boots into Ubuntu and although AROS doesn't compare so well to that, its nice to play around in a system so familiar to Classic Amiga. If they get Wifi sorted soon and do something about the sound issues then I think it would be quite useable. I will be tinkering a bit with it from now and have my eye on its progress.

23 July 2010, 19:29	#47
mjnurney Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Towcester, Northampton Posts: 311	okay latest update... Format and installed windows 7 and the latest UAE version. results... full screen or windowed - full sound and smooth game play. the latest build of UAE has com eon a lot since i last used it, better GUi and far more options. So i dont know what the problem is with Aros or UAE in Aros but there is a serious sound issue on the Atom 330 boards that is not a cpu speed issue but i suspect a bug in Aros or UAE (J-UAE and E-UAE) as for speed on the Atom 330 , it boots windows 7 very quickly and does everything from the disk without extra drives - so no complaints here. I like AROS but until UAE is sorted im sticking with Bill gates and his team, sorry I tried to install X-Amiga but no joy with sata hard drives it seems , didnt see the usb stick either - oh well

23 July 2010, 19:35	#48
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi mjnurney, Perhaps you ought to submit a bug report to the AROS team, or at least refer them to this thread.

23 July 2010, 19:47	#49
mjnurney Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Towcester, Northampton Posts: 311	i would but apart from saying i had a problem, i dont actually know whats at fault? Aros or UAE?

23 July 2010, 20:12	#51
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	@mjnurney I see you posted on aros-exec too, if you look around there you will find talks that the problem may come from sdl (aros-uae is based on). There are sdl-games with that issue too.

24 July 2010, 04:35	#52
Xenon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Zaragoza, Pamplona-Iruña, Bera Age: 42 Posts: 444	Icaros website: www.icarosdesktop.org Works like a charm, real Amiga running in x86 machines

24 July 2010, 05:45	#53
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,772	Real Amiga? There is absolutely nothing real about this setup at all.

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