Amiga questions you've always been too embarrassed to ask - Page 119

idrougge · 11 October 2019, 00:14

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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

Does constantly swapping the Gotek images around while searching for a disk cause any issues? I mean it seems to me that it waits a few seconds before it considers a disk 'inserted', but if you were slow enough, the Amiga would probably think you're sitting there putting in a disk and ripping it back out again and again, right?

It doesn't cause any physical harm at least. And I think searching by itself doesn't cause immediate insertion of the image in question.

NLS · 11 October 2019, 10:17

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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

Ha, in all my work to get my new system up, I've got to ask this....
Does constantly swapping the Gotek images around while searching for a disk cause any issues? I mean it seems to me that it waits a few seconds before it considers a disk 'inserted', but if you were slow enough, the Amiga would probably think you're sitting there putting in a disk and ripping it back out again and again, right?

Erm... what?

slaapliedje · 11 October 2019, 17:20

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Originally Posted by NLS

Erm... what?

Ha, let's just say I've now re-installed this thing enough times that I have almost memorized the order of disks it asks (I went into autoboot and arranged them, but I did mix up Locale and Extras, but otherwise got them spot on).

It's all because I get all my data on there, then boot it up and for some reason it tells me the disk has checksum errors or the id block is wrong (with PFS3). This time I tried running DiskDoctor on it, but it ran all night long, finished step 1 of checking (granted it is like 60gb partition) and then sat there on 'examining parent folders) or something. Wasn't even accessing the disk, so I just turned it off, I'll try after work today to get it copied over again...

The joy of dealing with old hardware.

NLS · 11 October 2019, 23:19

New hardware is not much better in this respect.

Recently RMAed one more Seagate (maybe 6-7 in the last 3 years!).
My A4000/040 Seagate 3.2GB that is around 22 years old, still works fine. I recently made a complete image of it for WinUAE.

slaapliedje · 11 October 2019, 23:56

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Originally Posted by NLS

New hardware is not much better in this respect.

Recently RMAed one more Seagate (maybe 6-7 in the last 3 years!).
My A4000/040 Seagate 3.2GB that is around 22 years old, still works fine. I recently made a complete image of it for WinUAE.

Ha, I was thinking that exact same thing earlier today. Hard drive failures seem far more common now than they used to be. But then again I used to only get SCSI drives back in the 90s, and they still work fine today. With the exception of the Connor drives, those were terrible.

DrFruit · 15 October 2019, 00:55

Why were all cases beige?

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DamienD · 15 October 2019, 01:10

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Originally Posted by DrFruit

Why were all cases beige?

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Hi DrFruit,

Would you mind please turning off your "Tapatalk" signature as per Rules & Help - Signature (direct signatures are not allowed)

Gorf · 15 October 2019, 02:03

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Originally Posted by DrFruit

Why were all cases beige?

They are not.

The A1000 is a bit brighter than following models und the CDTV is black and the CD32 very dark grey.
And there are (at least in Germany) some official special A500 cases:

the Stefanie-Tücking-Design (a former radio and TV-hostess, who died last year)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_...A500design.jpg
http://www.computermuseum-mannheim.d...a500_st_1g.jpg

(for the gereral question, why computer equipment was beige or grey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beige_box)

DrFruit · 15 October 2019, 10:17

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Originally Posted by DamienD

Hi DrFruit,

Would you mind please turning off your "Tapatalk" signature as per Rules & Help - Signature (direct signatures are not allowed)

Balls sorry!

DamienD · 15 October 2019, 11:41

No problem

nogginthenog · 10 November 2019, 21:51

Which Amigan here has the most RAM? (chip+fast). My A4000 has 2+16+128 = 146Mb.
680x0 only please!

slaapliedje · 10 November 2019, 22:59

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Originally Posted by nogginthenog

Which Amigan here has the most RAM? (chip+fast). My A4000 has 2+16+128 = 146Mb.
680x0 only please!

At one point in time I had about 384mb? It was 2mb chip+16mb fast, 128mb ZorRAM, 128mb on Cyberstorm MK1 and however much it squeezed out of the 256mb of the Radeon 9250.

I since lost the MK1 to bad memory board, but now have a CSPPC in there (guess that still counts as 68k, since it does have a 060 on it.) and a Voodoo 3, so lost a bunch there, but still 256+16 of Fast RAM ain't bad at all.
Though I did pre-order 3 bigramplus 256mb boards

davideo · 11 November 2019, 00:11

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Originally Posted by nogginthenog

Which Amigan here has the most RAM? (chip+fast). My A4000 has 2+16+128 = 146Mb.
680x0 only please!

Mine has the same with the 128Mb on a 040 Warp Engine.

slaapliedje · 11 November 2019, 00:13

I need to ask... why the hell does an install of 3.1.4 could be missing lha?

Jope · 11 November 2019, 08:01

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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

I need to ask... why the hell does an install of 3.1.4 could be missing lha?

It was always third party software, but agreed, in these "modern" times it would be nice to have the standard archiver included.

McTrinsic · 11 November 2019, 09:00

Part of the reason is, of course, copyright.
But imho it doesnt matter.

Just get BetterWB. Or LHA directly from Aminet.
Actually, I am glad that the team is focussing on the core OS elements.
If there was a bug and it was provided with the OS - who would take care of that?

nogginthenog · 11 November 2019, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaapliedje

At one point in time I had about 384mb? It was 2mb chip+16mb fast, 128mb ZorRAM, 128mb on Cyberstorm MK1 and however much it squeezed out of the 256mb of the Radeon 9250.

I since lost the MK1 to bad memory board, but now have a CSPPC in there (guess that still counts as 68k, since it does have a 060 on it.) and a Voodoo 3, so lost a bunch there, but still 256+16 of Fast RAM ain't bad at all.
Though I did pre-order 3 bigramplus 256mb boards

Nice. My first A500 HD was only 80 MB. I recently bought 10 really odd looking 16 MB simms for cheap (from a server I think) which work fine.

Daedalus · 11 November 2019, 20:58

I had 256MB in my A1200 for a long time, but since reduced to 192 because the 64MB SIMM was a better fit, and I don't think I ever used above 128MB anyway.

slaapliedje · 12 November 2019, 05:18

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Originally Posted by McTrinsic

Part of the reason is, of course, copyright.
But imho it doesnt matter.

Just get BetterWB. Or LHA directly from Aminet.
Actually, I am glad that the team is focussing on the core OS elements.
If there was a bug and it was provided with the OS - who would take care of that?

Pretty sure there are open source versions that could be distributed without issue. But yeah when trying to go with something not-BestWB (for example, I and others much prefer MagicWB over the standard icons or the new ones). it would be nice to include lha since pretty much everything on aminet is compressed in lha. And in the case of what I was trying over the weekend, Aminet was down so I couldn't download lha and install it.

Hewitson · 12 November 2019, 06:03

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Originally Posted by slaapliedje

Aminet was down so I couldn't download lha and install it.

Try another mirror in the future. For example de.aminet.net.

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11 October 2019, 23:19	#2364
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 757	New hardware is not much better in this respect. Recently RMAed one more Seagate (maybe 6-7 in the last 3 years!). My A4000/040 Seagate 3.2GB that is around 22 years old, still works fine. I recently made a complete image of it for WinUAE.

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DrFruit Resident Nutter... Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 46 Posts: 75	Why were all cases beige? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	No problem

10 November 2019, 21:51	#2371
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	Which Amigan here has the most RAM? (chip+fast). My A4000 has 2+16+128 = 146Mb. 680x0 only please!

11 November 2019, 00:13	#2374
slaapliedje Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 516	I need to ask... why the hell does an install of 3.1.4 could be missing lha?

11 November 2019, 09:00	#2376
McTrinsic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 527	Part of the reason is, of course, copyright. But imho it doesnt matter. Just get BetterWB. Or LHA directly from Aminet. Actually, I am glad that the team is focussing on the core OS elements. If there was a bug and it was provided with the OS - who would take care of that?

11 November 2019, 20:58	#2378
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	I had 256MB in my A1200 for a long time, but since reduced to 192 because the 64MB SIMM was a better fit, and I don't think I ever used above 128MB anyway.

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