Games that don't run well on and 060

fitzsteve · 29 September 2010, 10:20

Hi!

I want to test a theory

I think that some how for WHDLoad my Blizzard 1260 with an EC060 is better for WHDLoad then the full fat revisions.

Straight away I can see that the 060 on my PPC card is running games like Quake a lot better then my EC060 does however some games I have tested like Super Street Fighter 2 & SWOS run smooth on my EC060 where I have not expected them to.

Can anyone tell me some of the games that I would expect to have problems with on an 060 so that I can try them out?

Cheers!

Steve.

Toni Wilen · 29 September 2010, 10:27

I don't think CPU type directly matters (unless MMU table setup is stupid on real 68060) but different accelerator memory controller design, memory type, Amiga-side chipset bus access speed.

EDIT:

I thought you meant "normal" Amiga games working differently (not just Quake), because it is not rare with HD installed games due to different chipset bus speeds in different accelerators.

HonestFlames · 29 September 2010, 13:38

Quake was the first game to really tax the FPU. EC060's don't have an FPU, which is going to cut Quake's frame-rate massively compared to the full-fat '060 due to having to emulate FPU instructions using integer operations.

SWOS etc. don't use an FPU at all, hence speeds remain good.

fitzsteve · 29 September 2010, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestFlames

Quake was the first game to really tax the FPU. EC060's don't have an FPU, which is going to cut Quake's frame-rate massively compared to the full-fat '060 due to having to emulate FPU instructions using integer operations.

SWOS etc. don't use an FPU at all, hence speeds remain good.

Thanks for the info, its ok for me on this system as it goes because of the way I use it that is perfect - nice fast workbench/emulators and 060 Demo's run great plus my WHDLoad (so far) works just like it did on my Blizzard 1230

HonestFlames · 30 September 2010, 00:02

I thought long and hard about buying an 060 for my 1200, but all I use it for is a little bit of WHDLoad, some AMOS programming and will be moving into some C/ASM when I get time (away from Minecraft!).

Blizzard 030 is absolutely perfect. I even got on well with an Apollo 1220 for a couple of weeks, but having only 4MB fast RAM was a hindrance.

29 September 2010, 10:20	#1
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Games that don't run well on an 060 Hi! I want to test a theory I think that some how for WHDLoad my Blizzard 1260 with an EC060 is better for WHDLoad then the full fat revisions. Straight away I can see that the 060 on my PPC card is running games like Quake a lot better then my EC060 does however some games I have tested like Super Street Fighter 2 & SWOS run smooth on my EC060 where I have not expected them to. Can anyone tell me some of the games that I would expect to have problems with on an 060 so that I can try them out? Cheers! Steve. Last edited by fitzsteve; 29 September 2010 at 10:39.

29 September 2010, 10:27	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,523	I don't think CPU type directly matters (unless MMU table setup is stupid on real 68060) but different accelerator memory controller design, memory type, Amiga-side chipset bus access speed. EDIT: I thought you meant "normal" Amiga games working differently (not just Quake), because it is not rare with HD installed games due to different chipset bus speeds in different accelerators. Last edited by Toni Wilen; 29 September 2010 at 14:12.

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29 September 2010, 13:38	#3
HonestFlames Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Telford / England Posts: 38	Quake was the first game to really tax the FPU. EC060's don't have an FPU, which is going to cut Quake's frame-rate massively compared to the full-fat '060 due to having to emulate FPU instructions using integer operations. SWOS etc. don't use an FPU at all, hence speeds remain good.

30 September 2010, 00:02	#5
HonestFlames Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Telford / England Posts: 38	I thought long and hard about buying an 060 for my 1200, but all I use it for is a little bit of WHDLoad, some AMOS programming and will be moving into some C/ASM when I get time (away from Minecraft!). Blizzard 030 is absolutely perfect. I even got on well with an Apollo 1220 for a couple of weeks, but having only 4MB fast RAM was a hindrance.

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