ARIII Deep Trainer with WinUAE

thor · 26 May 2006, 16:59

I can't get Action Replay III's Deep Trainer to work. I'm using WinUAE 1.2. I tried it with different memory configurations and disabled all mem except 512k in the preferences menu. When I want to start the deep trainer with TDS it says "Select only 512k chip memory", but that's what I've done. Any ideas?

BippyM · 26 May 2006, 17:01

Start it with 1mb memory and select 512kb chip

Try both 1mb chip & 1/2mb chip 1/2mb fast. Once memory is set within replay reboot (type reset in replay)

thor · 26 May 2006, 17:28

That's exactly what I have done. I even tried 1mb chip + 1mb fast and set it to 512k chip in prefs screen, but it always says that message.

Toni Wilen · 26 May 2006, 17:45

Deselect "Add"-button next to "External Memory". (for some reason AR3 thinks there are extra memory at 0x600000...)

thor · 26 May 2006, 18:16

Thanks

Now it works

thor · 26 May 2006, 19:06

Mmmhh, well it doesn't complain anymore but it doesn't work as expected. I tried it with Robocop 2 as mentioned in the manual and with another game, the result was the same. It alway says it's searching up to 15555 and on the second/third... TDS it prints out B94EB9 countless times.

BippyM · 26 May 2006, 19:23

what are you trying to train on Robocop2?

thor · 26 May 2006, 19:34

Lives. I use Robocop 2 only for checking as the AR III manual uses this game for a deep trainer tutorial. And it always prints out the same things regardless of the game I'm using.

BippyM · 26 May 2006, 20:07

ok what game do you want to use

Generally you don't need to use the deep trainers... the normal trainer is good enuff

and where is this "ADD" tickbox.. I can't find it anywhere

thor · 26 May 2006, 20:24

I'm interested in understanding where the time is stored in Super Scramble Simulator. I diassembled the thing and found out where the time penalties are stored but not the normal time. It's very tough to play (I got up to "Course I") and without a trainer I don't think I can complete this. With the normal trainer I haven't found the address where the time is stored. Besides I want to learn assembler and understand the things the game is doing. And I'm curious why the AR III prints this what I wrote (I haven't got my old A500 here to check if it does happen on a real Amiga too).

BippyM · 26 May 2006, 20:33

Ahh right got ya!

badflame · 14 July 2019, 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Deselect "Add"-button next to "External Memory". (for some reason AR3 thinks there are extra memory at 0x600000...)

No way, allways "No work memory":

Please, help me

Toni Wilen · 15 July 2019, 08:03

Did you reset the Amiga after selecting new F3 page memory config? EDIT: Use keyboard to reset, don't use GUI reset button, it will do hard reset.

badflame · 15 July 2019, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Did you reset the Amiga after selecting new F3 page memory config? EDIT: Use keyboard to reset, don't use GUI reset button, it will do hard reset.

Yes, of course. Also I tried reset from the WinUAE GUI, but same result.

Dan · 15 July 2019, 16:41

Here i have a config, with Chip mem set to 1mb and Slow mem set to 1mb.

When you enter the freezer and press f3, then click on "No Fast" and Chip: "0.5MB", click on "OK"

Then reset the machine.

This does work.

Toni Wilen · 15 July 2019, 20:40

It is most likely AR3 limitation, it probably only supports either max 1M chip (with half disabled) or 0.5M+0.5M (with 0.5M slow disabled) but not both at the same time.

badflame · 15 July 2019, 23:40

This is my WinUAE memory config:

The Action Replay config:

RESET:

Load game (Vampire's Empire):

I press Page Up to enter at Action Replay window:

badflame · 16 July 2019, 04:57

Ok, solved. It seems that is necessary do RESET from WinUAE and not writing "reset" from MKIII.

I thought that this had already been tried, but surely I pressed RESTART instead of RESET.

Thanks to all who answered me.

26 May 2006, 16:59	#1
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	ARIII Deep Trainer with WinUAE I can't get Action Replay III's Deep Trainer to work. I'm using WinUAE 1.2. I tried it with different memory configurations and disabled all mem except 512k in the preferences menu. When I want to start the deep trainer with TDS it says "Select only 512k chip memory", but that's what I've done. Any ideas?

26 May 2006, 20:07	#9
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	ok what game do you want to use Generally you don't need to use the deep trainers... the normal trainer is good enuff and where is this "ADD" tickbox.. I can't find it anywhere Last edited by BippyM; 26 May 2006 at 20:14.

15 July 2019, 08:03	#13
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Did you reset the Amiga after selecting new F3 page memory config? EDIT: Use keyboard to reset, don't use GUI reset button, it will do hard reset. Last edited by Toni Wilen; 15 July 2019 at 08:25.

15 July 2019, 23:40	#17
badflame Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Spain Posts: 79	This is my WinUAE memory config: The Action Replay config: RESET: Load game (Vampire's Empire): I press Page Up to enter at Action Replay window: Last edited by badflame; 15 July 2019 at 23:47.

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26 May 2006, 17:01	#2
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Start it with 1mb memory and select 512kb chip Try both 1mb chip & 1/2mb chip 1/2mb fast. Once memory is set within replay reboot (type reset in replay)

26 May 2006, 17:28	#3
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	That's exactly what I have done. I even tried 1mb chip + 1mb fast and set it to 512k chip in prefs screen, but it always says that message.

26 May 2006, 17:45	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Deselect "Add"-button next to "External Memory". (for some reason AR3 thinks there are extra memory at 0x600000...)

26 May 2006, 18:16	#5
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	Thanks Now it works

26 May 2006, 19:06	#6
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	Mmmhh, well it doesn't complain anymore but it doesn't work as expected. I tried it with Robocop 2 as mentioned in the manual and with another game, the result was the same. It alway says it's searching up to 15555 and on the second/third... TDS it prints out B94EB9 countless times.

26 May 2006, 19:23	#7
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	what are you trying to train on Robocop2?

26 May 2006, 19:34	#8
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	Lives. I use Robocop 2 only for checking as the AR III manual uses this game for a deep trainer tutorial. And it always prints out the same things regardless of the game I'm using.

26 May 2006, 20:24	#10
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	I'm interested in understanding where the time is stored in Super Scramble Simulator. I diassembled the thing and found out where the time penalties are stored but not the normal time. It's very tough to play (I got up to "Course I") and without a trainer I don't think I can complete this. With the normal trainer I haven't found the address where the time is stored. Besides I want to learn assembler and understand the things the game is doing. And I'm curious why the AR III prints this what I wrote (I haven't got my old A500 here to check if it does happen on a real Amiga too).

26 May 2006, 20:33	#11
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Ahh right got ya!

15 July 2019, 16:41	#15
Dan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 629	Here i have a config, with Chip mem set to 1mb and Slow mem set to 1mb. When you enter the freezer and press f3, then click on "No Fast" and Chip: "0.5MB", click on "OK" Then reset the machine. This does work.

15 July 2019, 20:40	#16
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	It is most likely AR3 limitation, it probably only supports either max 1M chip (with half disabled) or 0.5M+0.5M (with 0.5M slow disabled) but not both at the same time.

16 July 2019, 04:57	#18
badflame Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Spain Posts: 79	Ok, solved. It seems that is necessary do RESET from WinUAE and not writing "reset" from MKIII. I thought that this had already been tried, but surely I pressed RESTART instead of RESET. Thanks to all who answered me.

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