BetterWB 4.0 27-February-2015

gulliver · 27 February 2015, 19:05

BetterWB 4.0 27-February-2015

This is a new version of BetterWB workbench pack, that aims to be an enhancement, an updated extension to AmigaOS 3.1, without all those hardware requirements typically associated with these kind of packs. It is indeed a better 3.1 than 3.1 itself!

BetterWB works on any Amiga. It installs on top of a clean AmigaOS 3.1 installation. It is distributed as a set of floppy images and occupies about 10MB of harddrive space.

Changes since last version:

-Rebooter has a fast performing bootable ram option
-LockDevice is a command which between other things, changes the read and write status of a drive
-Icon.library has been updated to 46.4.408
-Fat95 has been updated to 3.18
-Dir now generates a wider and more clear display mode
-ConBuffer gives scrollbars to any cli (configured by default for Zshell)
-A new commodity, PM, a cpu/process meter
-Datatypes.library 45.4 corrects several bugs and is a little bit faster than its previous counterpart
-DOSDrivers for Jaz and Zip drives are included. If you still have one of those magnetic dinosaurs

-Reduced the memory footprint just another extra bit.
-A few more minor fixes and tweaks.

You can download BetterWB from its homepage at:

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm

huepper · 27 February 2015, 20:38

Thanks for the new version, will try it tonight.
But icon.library 46.4.408 has a little bug i think. (icons will be ghosted sometimes, have to wait what PeterK says about this)

Anyway, really nice WB-Enhancement !

EDIT: is it possible that you rename your "full" archive with including version number ?

gulliver · 27 February 2015, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by huepper

Thanks for the new version, will try it tonight.
But icon.library 46.4.408 has a little bug i think. (icons will be ghosted sometimes, have to wait what PeterK says about this)

Anyway, really nice WB-Enhancement !

EDIT: is it possible that you rename your "full" archive with including version number ?

About icon.library: DefIcons which are not present will be ghosted, I believe this is what PeterK intended. I am not sure if that is what you are saying. This is not a bug, but a feature.

About renaming the full archive: Why? You can now always find out the version by taking a peek at Prefs/Env-Archive/BetterWB/Version

fitzsteve · 27 February 2015, 21:46

Cool - will check it out on my spare CF card

prowler · 27 February 2015, 22:06

Great news, Gulliver!

supaduper · 27 February 2015, 22:25

Excellent work again dude !

invent · 27 February 2015, 22:38

Thanks Gulliver, having just bought an A1200 with fresh Install of 3.1 this will be the next install I try on the machine.

Leffmann · 27 February 2015, 23:12

Thanks!

A small bug-report:

Immediately after installing and rebooting, running some of the preferences and changing the icon set, causes Workbench to lock up. After rebooting again, the problem is usually gone for good. I've run into this in some of the older versions of BetterWB, but I can't always reproduce it.

The palette set by FullPalette doesn't always persist even if some colors are supposedly locked. If you run f.ex. the mouse pointer preferences, it will change the colors on the Workbench screen.

PatchWB still locks up the system after trying to open the Workbench screen. If you run f.ex. DPaint and tell it to close the Workbench screen, and then either open it again or quit to Workbench, the system locks up. PatchWB effectively causes the very problem it attempts to fix.

gulliver · 28 February 2015, 01:32

@Leffmann

Thank you for the reports.

I never had that that lock up problem

Will keep an eye open if someone reports something more specific about it.

Fullpalette does not automaticaly lock the palette, so programs that use most color pens tend to change it. I believe IconEdit does that too.

PatchWB will then be gone for good.

Thanks!

B14ck W01f · 28 February 2015, 02:54

Cool. Will try it out soon.

dimfil · 28 February 2015, 10:13

Thank you so much for supporting us!
BetterWB on my A1200 with blizzard 1230 mkIV to my opinion gives the ultimate classic workbench experience!

Leffmann · 28 February 2015, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

@Leffmann
PatchWB will then be gone for good.

I think PatchWB was written by Thomas Richter. He's active over at Amiga.org, maybe he would be willing to look into it and updating the patch.

daxb · 28 February 2015, 13:01

If PatchWB is an equivalent to PatchOpenWB patch then you might try/test notifyintuition.library as a replacement for it.

ma693541 · 28 February 2015, 16:29

Thank you guliver. Time to get it to work with AmigaForever's Player again.

lesta_smsc · 28 February 2015, 16:51

Does this support MS-DOS/PC disks natively without need for CrossDOS or similar?

adrianh78 · 28 February 2015, 17:16

This looks really cool - I look forward to checking it out when I fire my A600 up again

Thanks for taking time to create this

gulliver · 01 March 2015, 09:00

@All
Thank you for the comments and suggestions.

@lesta scmsc
Yes, you can use fat95 and its corresponding DOSDrivers located in the storage folder to use PC MS-DOS floppies. For further details read Help:fat95.txt

Hewitson · 01 March 2015, 09:07

Why wouldn't you use CrossDOS?

daxb · 01 March 2015, 13:28

I would guess that Fat95 ist better then CrossDOS.

lesta_smsc · 01 March 2015, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

I would guess that Fat95 ist better then CrossDOS.

Thank you for confirming!

I presume fat95 is supported on KS1.3?

27 February 2015, 19:05	#1
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	BetterWB 4.0 27-February-2015 BetterWB 4.0 27-February-2015 This is a new version of BetterWB workbench pack, that aims to be an enhancement, an updated extension to AmigaOS 3.1, without all those hardware requirements typically associated with these kind of packs. It is indeed a better 3.1 than 3.1 itself! BetterWB works on any Amiga. It installs on top of a clean AmigaOS 3.1 installation. It is distributed as a set of floppy images and occupies about 10MB of harddrive space. Changes since last version: -Rebooter has a fast performing bootable ram option -LockDevice is a command which between other things, changes the read and write status of a drive -Icon.library has been updated to 46.4.408 -Fat95 has been updated to 3.18 -Dir now generates a wider and more clear display mode -ConBuffer gives scrollbars to any cli (configured by default for Zshell) -A new commodity, PM, a cpu/process meter -Datatypes.library 45.4 corrects several bugs and is a little bit faster than its previous counterpart -DOSDrivers for Jaz and Zip drives are included. If you still have one of those magnetic dinosaurs -Reduced the memory footprint just another extra bit. -A few more minor fixes and tweaks. You can download BetterWB from its homepage at: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm

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27 February 2015, 20:38	#2
huepper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: GDR Age: 49 Posts: 249	Thanks for the new version, will try it tonight. But icon.library 46.4.408 has a little bug i think. (icons will be ghosted sometimes, have to wait what PeterK says about this) Anyway, really nice WB-Enhancement ! EDIT: is it possible that you rename your "full" archive with including version number ?

27 February 2015, 21:46	#4
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Cool - will check it out on my spare CF card

27 February 2015, 22:06	#5
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Great news, Gulliver!

27 February 2015, 22:25	#6
supaduper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Krypton Posts: 1,210	Excellent work again dude !

27 February 2015, 22:38	#7
invent pixels Join Date: May 2014 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 476	Thanks Gulliver, having just bought an A1200 with fresh Install of 3.1 this will be the next install I try on the machine.

27 February 2015, 23:12	#8
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	Thanks! A small bug-report: Immediately after installing and rebooting, running some of the preferences and changing the icon set, causes Workbench to lock up. After rebooting again, the problem is usually gone for good. I've run into this in some of the older versions of BetterWB, but I can't always reproduce it. The palette set by FullPalette doesn't always persist even if some colors are supposedly locked. If you run f.ex. the mouse pointer preferences, it will change the colors on the Workbench screen. PatchWB still locks up the system after trying to open the Workbench screen. If you run f.ex. DPaint and tell it to close the Workbench screen, and then either open it again or quit to Workbench, the system locks up. PatchWB effectively causes the very problem it attempts to fix.

28 February 2015, 01:32	#9
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	@Leffmann Thank you for the reports. I never had that that lock up problem Will keep an eye open if someone reports something more specific about it. Fullpalette does not automaticaly lock the palette, so programs that use most color pens tend to change it. I believe IconEdit does that too. PatchWB will then be gone for good. Thanks!

28 February 2015, 02:54	#10
B14ck W01f m68k all the way Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Koalaland Posts: 523	Cool. Will try it out soon.

28 February 2015, 10:13	#11
dimfil Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 17	Thank you so much for supporting us! BetterWB on my A1200 with blizzard 1230 mkIV to my opinion gives the ultimate classic workbench experience!

28 February 2015, 13:01	#13
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	If PatchWB is an equivalent to PatchOpenWB patch then you might try/test notifyintuition.library as a replacement for it.

28 February 2015, 16:29	#14
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	Thank you guliver. Time to get it to work with AmigaForever's Player again.

28 February 2015, 16:51	#15
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Does this support MS-DOS/PC disks natively without need for CrossDOS or similar?

28 February 2015, 17:16	#16
adrianh78 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Northampton Posts: 25	This looks really cool - I look forward to checking it out when I fire my A600 up again Thanks for taking time to create this

01 March 2015, 09:00	#17
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	@All Thank you for the comments and suggestions. @lesta scmsc Yes, you can use fat95 and its corresponding DOSDrivers located in the storage folder to use PC MS-DOS floppies. For further details read Help:fat95.txt

01 March 2015, 09:07	#18
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,772	Why wouldn't you use CrossDOS?

01 March 2015, 13:28	#19
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	I would guess that Fat95 ist better then CrossDOS.

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