More Hardware for ... ME. A1000 new generation

coze · 05 February 2008, 07:42

somebody in Germany (namely Georg Braun) seems to have re-constructed the A1000 mobo with 'some' extra features. It's just awesome.

- 68030 & 68882 @ 50Mhz
- 8MB 32Bit-Fastram no waitstates
- FliFi (Amber)
- HD-Controller (IDE)
- 2MB Chip
- Zorro-Slot

discussion thread (in german)
project page
a org thread

s2325 · 05 February 2008, 08:16

What is that "Microwave" with Commodore logo?

NLS · 05 February 2008, 08:42

I don't think that thing in the bottom left is a commodore logo.
The brand is on the top left.

As for A1000, I'd like to have a link, more details etc.
Looks great but also looks unbelievable enough.

s2325 · 05 February 2008, 08:47

You're right, it's not even a logo, it's some kind of switch:

Konrad · 05 February 2008, 09:06

I guess that's a HP logo in the top left of the "microwave"

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Jope · 05 February 2008, 09:07

C'mon guys.. ;-)

It's a logic analyser, you can see it's wiring loom right next to the AmigaBUS connector.. (the flat connector with a huge jumble of wires)

Zetr0 · 05 February 2008, 09:52

I love this kinda thing, building up your own amiga!

I wonder where he source the graphic / custom chips from... this is a great adaptation of the phoenix boards, especially with the in-built 030, strange to the use of only 8MB of ram though.... but 90% of amiga-ness 8mb is ample

mind you he could of done all of this in a much smaller foot print on an FPGA.

hmmm i'm sensing project..

Graham Humphrey · 05 February 2008, 09:56

It does look a bit like a microwave though, albeit one with a disk drive - so perhaps it could cook your floppy disks. So if a game really frustrates you, it's toast.

Oh yeah, cool A1000 too

coze · 05 February 2008, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

I wonder where he source the graphic / custom chips from... this is a great adaptation of the phoenix boards, especially with the in-built 030, strange to the use of only 8MB of ram though.... but 90% of amiga-ness 8mb is ample

He didn't, you need to source a full ECS chipset from another amiga. Also amber for the scandoubler (which kind of sucks). IDE controller is based on AT-BUS 2008 from BSC, and probably you need to salvage the rom and controller from that card too ... Argh, we some german translation here

alexh · 05 February 2008, 10:20

You can buy AMBER chips as NOS for about $20

I looked at getting some to make some of George's other invention, the A2320 AGA 24-bit Flicker Fixer.

P.S. Is that an "I'm going to leak" barrel battery on the new phoenix board?

coze · 05 February 2008, 10:22

really, where ? I hope you're not referring to softhut ?

Eclipse · 06 February 2008, 20:40

Microwave??
It is indeed an HP logic analyzer.

Oli_HD · 07 February 2008, 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclipse

Microwave??
It is indeed an HP logic analyzer.

My oscilloscope uses the same case as that beast but it has more buttons. (And as such is much better)

my logic analyzer is tiny but slow, 25Mhz max. (Its missing its pods at the moment but I got it for £25 so yay)

That A1K design is amazing, I love the way its layed out.. and it was autorouted, when I use my pcb programs autorouter it makes a total mess of it. (as its only a one pass router, bahh)
Hats off to this guy, he did an amazing job.

NLS · 07 February 2008, 13:03

?

you mean the PCB is NOT A1000 original?

coze · 07 February 2008, 13:16

LOL@NLS

dude, it's what all the fuss is about. He made a NEW MOBO the same size of A1000 mobo, you can just pop in an A1000 case. With all the features I listed embedded on the mobo. You have to provide the chips though.

NLS · 07 February 2008, 14:14

ok WOW

Eclipse · 07 February 2008, 17:42

Can't A500's be robbed of chips?

Zetr0 · 07 February 2008, 17:59

@Eclipse

only dead ones...... unless you fancy out running a lynch mob or two

Charlie · 07 February 2008, 18:40

Nice project!

Hmmm,
Replace those custom chips with CPLD's (or FPGA's) - maybe the 68k too...

Google Languages

Did you notice those Intuition benchmarks?

chiark · 07 February 2008, 19:35

This is so, so cool. Where do I order

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05 February 2008, 08:16	#2
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	What is that "Microwave" with Commodore logo?

05 February 2008, 08:42	#3
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	I don't think that thing in the bottom left is a commodore logo. The brand is on the top left. As for A1000, I'd like to have a link, more details etc. Looks great but also looks unbelievable enough.

05 February 2008, 08:47	#4
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	You're right, it's not even a logo, it's some kind of switch:

05 February 2008, 09:06	#5
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	I guess that's a HP logo in the top left of the "microwave" .

05 February 2008, 09:07	#6
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,876	C'mon guys.. ;-) It's a logic analyser, you can see it's wiring loom right next to the AmigaBUS connector.. (the flat connector with a huge jumble of wires)

05 February 2008, 09:52	#7
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I love this kinda thing, building up your own amiga! I wonder where he source the graphic / custom chips from... this is a great adaptation of the phoenix boards, especially with the in-built 030, strange to the use of only 8MB of ram though.... but 90% of amiga-ness 8mb is ample mind you he could of done all of this in a much smaller foot print on an FPGA. hmmm i'm sensing project..

05 February 2008, 09:56	#8
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	It does look a bit like a microwave though, albeit one with a disk drive - so perhaps it could cook your floppy disks. So if a game really frustrates you, it's toast. Oh yeah, cool A1000 too

05 February 2008, 10:20	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,397	You can buy AMBER chips as NOS for about $20 I looked at getting some to make some of George's other invention, the A2320 AGA 24-bit Flicker Fixer. P.S. Is that an "I'm going to leak" barrel battery on the new phoenix board?

05 February 2008, 10:22	#11
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	really, where ? I hope you're not referring to softhut ?

06 February 2008, 20:40	#12
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Microwave?? It is indeed an HP logic analyzer.

07 February 2008, 13:03	#14
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	? you mean the PCB is NOT A1000 original?

07 February 2008, 13:16	#15
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	LOL@NLS dude, it's what all the fuss is about. He made a NEW MOBO the same size of A1000 mobo, you can just pop in an A1000 case. With all the features I listed embedded on the mobo. You have to provide the chips though.

07 February 2008, 14:14	#16
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	ok WOW

07 February 2008, 17:42	#17
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Can't A500's be robbed of chips?

07 February 2008, 17:59	#18
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Eclipse only dead ones...... unless you fancy out running a lynch mob or two

07 February 2008, 19:35	#20
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	This is so, so cool. Where do I order ?

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