Cody's Amiga Game Milestones

CodyJarrett · 21 March 2003, 22:55

I thought that I might do some of those lists that were mentioned in the What List Should Cody Do Next? thread.

This one was suggested by Dastardly. It's about Amiga game milestones - and I will take 'milestone' to include the good events as well as the bad ones...

These are not in any order.

Amiga Gaming Milestone: 1
Games: Shadow Of The Beast 1&2
Milestone Achievement: Selling Amigas with astonishing eye candy and sonic delights

I remember getting my first Amiga (an A500) home and setting it up. I played some games like Rick Dangerous. I also tried Shadow Of The Beast 2, a game in my Amiga pack. Coming from the Spectrum, this was a real eye-popping event; the stunning intro sequence with amazing sampled sounds, the title and in-game music and the game graphics. Many an Amiga was been sold in order to play SOTB 1&2.

Djay · 22 March 2003, 00:43

i got the A500 Screengems pack, and SOTB2 is indeed a milestone game...

great idea for a thread, THIS is what EAB is all about

...

... i think we might have reached the light at the end of the tunnel - NICE ONE Cody

Dastardly · 22 March 2003, 18:16

Glad you decided to do this thread Cody. I look forward to seeing the games included as well as the disputes about people disagreeing about your choices

BTW I totally agree with your first choice

Daz · 22 March 2003, 19:40

Yay another Cody thread! Chop Chop then!....

CodyJarrett · 22 March 2003, 20:01

The credit goes to you Dastardly, for the idea about the first entry!

Amiga Gaming Milestone: 2
Game: Rise Of The Robots
Milestone Achievement: Demonstrating that great graphics and a massive advertising campaign will sell a crap game.

Not a happy milestone, but Risible Robots cemented the idea that a publisher could throw lots of money into marketing instead of gameplay and still make a tidy profit. The graphics helped too, but this isn't much of a game.

Look out for a review in issue 1 of APoV!

Amiga1992 · 22 March 2003, 20:54

I get broken pics most times...Could it be that you cannot link to the HOL directly??

CodyJarrett · 22 March 2003, 21:01

The HOL is currently down, as RCK is making interface alterations...

spiff · 24 March 2003, 01:31

I'd still go for [movieLicence][OCEAN] Rise at least had some nice FMVs

Other milestones (guessing):
*Lemmings, most ported amiga game.
*Dragons Lair, first FMV “game”
*IK+, only playable amiga beat em up

Djay · 24 March 2003, 01:42

if i remember correctly on the ECS version of RotR... you could not jump over the other character,,,, because it couldn't handle the amount of animation it takes...?? am i right?

Amiga1992 · 24 March 2003, 04:38

Quote:

Originally posted by spiff
*Lemmings, most ported amiga game.

And one of the most original games ever

Quote:

*Dragons Lair, first FMV “game”

But this might not be a milestone for the Amiga (besides the arcade original was FMV, but the Amiga one wasn't). It sucks anyway,

Quote:

*IK+, only playable amiga beat em up

Milestones set the way for others. I don;t think IK set any way for others, none have followed its awesome lineage!

Dastardly · 29 March 2003, 14:43

More milestones please!

I vote for lemmings as well

CodyJarrett · 08 April 2003, 21:19

Lemmings will be along shortly!

Amiga Gaming Milestone: 3
Game: Stardust
Milestone Achievement: Demonstrating that great graphics and a low price won't sell a great game.

Another unhappy milestone, but gamewise it was the opposite of Risible Robots. Stardust had great gameplay and graphics and was sold only through mail order at a lower price. It didn't sell well and prompted the developers to release Super Stardust at a more expensive price and via more traditional means through Team 17.

Drake1009 · 08 April 2003, 22:35

I didn't know that Stardust was only sold through mail order. That was a somewhat bad decision I'd say. I still don't order much to go through the mail, not even in this time of the internet.

Djay · 09 April 2003, 00:37

Quote:

I didn't know that Stardust was only sold through mail order

it wasn't...

... i had a shop and sold it for £14.99 (bought in from a standard supplier)

Shatterhand · 09 April 2003, 05:34

Stardust was indeed great.. the only Asteroids clone that was better than it was Super Stardust

Talking about Rise of the Robots... I discovered this game got a SEQUEL!

I was reading some old gaming magazines from a friend... he had an issue of a magazine from Portugal: Mega Score. It had a review of the PSX version of "Rise 2: Resurrection" . A sequel for Rise of the Robots, and the reviewer slagged off the game

Dizzy · 09 April 2003, 05:45

To simply say that Rise 2: Resurrection is better than the original would not only be a pointless understatement (almost any other fighting game is better than the dismal original), but would be undermining the fact that Rise 2 is a surprisingly decent 2 dimensional beat 'em up.

quote from http://www.cdmag.com/articles/009/11...on_review.html

Galahad/FLT · 09 April 2003, 19:53

Stardust was available in the shops, thats where mine came from.

And so far, milestones, I cannot disagree. The SOTB demo was enough to get me to junk my Atari ST and get an Amiga A5oo 1.2, which coincidentally, I am STILL using now?!!!

Stardust sales wise did fair business, but certainly not as bad as Super Stardust. That game was criminally undersold (Its just Asteroids said Martyn Brown/Team 17 to me). If the company promoting it can't be arsed, what chance does a game have?

CodyJarrett · 09 April 2003, 20:26

Okay, so I'm wrong!

However, it was sold through mail order as well and possibly a bit cheaper too.

CodyJarrett · 10 April 2003, 22:37

Amiga Gaming Milestone: 4
Game: Lemmings
Milestone Achievement: Championing originality on the Amiga and the porting to many platforms

Time for a good milestone - Lemmings, of course, was a highly original game. The idea, execution and presentation were superb. Plus, it was ported to loads of other platforms. It all started on the Amiga, though!

11 April 2003, 12:30

it might not be totally relevant to this post but i bought my amiga purely on the strength of playing f18 interceptor which i thought was an amazing game at the time!!

21 March 2003, 22:55	#1
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Cody's Amiga Game Milestones I thought that I might do some of those lists that were mentioned in the What List Should Cody Do Next? thread. This one was suggested by Dastardly. It's about Amiga game milestones - and I will take 'milestone' to include the good events as well as the bad ones... These are not in any order. Amiga Gaming Milestone: 1 Games: Shadow Of The Beast 1&2 Milestone Achievement: Selling Amigas with astonishing eye candy and sonic delights I remember getting my first Amiga (an A500) home and setting it up. I played some games like Rick Dangerous. I also tried Shadow Of The Beast 2, a game in my Amiga pack. Coming from the Spectrum, this was a real eye-popping event; the stunning intro sequence with amazing sampled sounds, the title and in-game music and the game graphics. Many an Amiga was been sold in order to play SOTB 1&2.

22 March 2003, 00:43	#2
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	i got the A500 Screengems pack, and SOTB2 is indeed a milestone game... great idea for a thread, THIS is what EAB is all about... ... i think we might have reached the light at the end of the tunnel - NICE ONE Cody

09 April 2003, 19:53	#17
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Stardust Stardust was available in the shops, thats where mine came from. And so far, milestones, I cannot disagree. The SOTB demo was enough to get me to junk my Atari ST and get an Amiga A5oo 1.2, which coincidentally, I am STILL using now?!!! Stardust sales wise did fair business, but certainly not as bad as Super Stardust. That game was criminally undersold (Its just Asteroids said Martyn Brown/Team 17 to me). If the company promoting it can't be arsed, what chance does a game have?

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22 March 2003, 18:16	#3
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Glad you decided to do this thread Cody. I look forward to seeing the games included as well as the disputes about people disagreeing about your choices BTW I totally agree with your first choice

22 March 2003, 19:40	#4
Daz Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Blackburn Age: 42 Posts: 174	Yay another Cody thread! Chop Chop then!....

22 March 2003, 20:01	#5
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	The credit goes to you Dastardly, for the idea about the first entry! Amiga Gaming Milestone: 2 Game: Rise Of The Robots Milestone Achievement: Demonstrating that great graphics and a massive advertising campaign will sell a crap game. Not a happy milestone, but Risible Robots cemented the idea that a publisher could throw lots of money into marketing instead of gameplay and still make a tidy profit. The graphics helped too, but this isn't much of a game. Look out for a review in issue 1 of APoV!

22 March 2003, 20:54	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I get broken pics most times...Could it be that you cannot link to the HOL directly??

22 March 2003, 21:01	#7
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	The HOL is currently down, as RCK is making interface alterations...

24 March 2003, 01:31	#8
spiff Oh noes! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 766	I'd still go for [movieLicence][OCEAN] Rise at least had some nice FMVs Other milestones (guessing): Lemmings, most ported amiga game. Dragons Lair, first FMV “game” *IK+, only playable amiga beat em up

24 March 2003, 01:42	#9
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	if i remember correctly on the ECS version of RotR... you could not jump over the other character,,,, because it couldn't handle the amount of animation it takes...?? am i right?

29 March 2003, 14:43	#11
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	More milestones please! I vote for lemmings as well

08 April 2003, 21:19	#12
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Lemmings will be along shortly! Amiga Gaming Milestone: 3 Game: Stardust Milestone Achievement: Demonstrating that great graphics and a low price won't sell a great game. Another unhappy milestone, but gamewise it was the opposite of Risible Robots. Stardust had great gameplay and graphics and was sold only through mail order at a lower price. It didn't sell well and prompted the developers to release Super Stardust at a more expensive price and via more traditional means through Team 17.

08 April 2003, 22:35	#13
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	I didn't know that Stardust was only sold through mail order. That was a somewhat bad decision I'd say. I still don't order much to go through the mail, not even in this time of the internet.

09 April 2003, 05:34	#15
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Stardust was indeed great.. the only Asteroids clone that was better than it was Super Stardust Talking about Rise of the Robots... I discovered this game got a SEQUEL! I was reading some old gaming magazines from a friend... he had an issue of a magazine from Portugal: Mega Score. It had a review of the PSX version of "Rise 2: Resurrection" . A sequel for Rise of the Robots, and the reviewer slagged off the game

09 April 2003, 05:45	#16
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	To simply say that Rise 2: Resurrection is better than the original would not only be a pointless understatement (almost any other fighting game is better than the dismal original), but would be undermining the fact that Rise 2 is a surprisingly decent 2 dimensional beat 'em up. quote from http://www.cdmag.com/articles/009/11...on_review.html

09 April 2003, 20:26	#18
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Okay, so I'm wrong! However, it was sold through mail order as well and possibly a bit cheaper too.

10 April 2003, 22:37	#19
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Amiga Gaming Milestone: 4 Game: Lemmings Milestone Achievement: Championing originality on the Amiga and the porting to many platforms Time for a good milestone - Lemmings, of course, was a highly original game. The idea, execution and presentation were superb. Plus, it was ported to loads of other platforms. It all started on the Amiga, though!

11 April 2003, 12:30	#20
jimatlod Posts: n/a	it might not be totally relevant to this post but i bought my amiga purely on the strength of playing f18 interceptor which i thought was an amazing game at the time!!

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