Swords and Galeons

mai · 05 February 2009, 20:26

I am still looking for comlete diskrip for the game "Swords and Galleons"!!
I think there is no download available.
If you try to rip the music, you will think, its absolutly simple, any ripper recognize the Protracker mods.
But, if you listen to the music you can hear, there is something wrong with some mods.
The complete rip has 7 mods, especially with mod1, mod3, and mod5 is something wrong.
I am not sure, if the samples are trashed on the disk, or if some samples are corrupt, its also possible, that the infos in the songdata about the sample size are wrong.
I would be very grateful, if anybody have a look at the disks.

Maybe anybody have the skill.

DH · 05 February 2009, 21:01

Will check it sometime tonight mai, probably won't get back to you until tomorrow but I'll keep you posted mate

Asle · 05 February 2009, 21:03

hi, point to the file, please

TCD · 05 February 2009, 21:17

Here you go Asle : http://www.planetemu.net/?section=re...&rubrique=roms

Edit : Congrats DH

mai · 05 February 2009, 21:27

Thank you all for the efforts, i hope there is nothing wrong with the samples(corrupted).
I have also tried to find IPF-images for comparing purpose, but i was not succesful.

DH · 05 February 2009, 21:27

Cheers TCD

@Mai
Ripped them off 'n' I miss Mod3 but I get a Mod8. Gonna run them through protracker to see what they sound like through that 'n' if they sound OK I'll re-name them and re-save them.

mai · 05 February 2009, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Cheers TCD

@Mai
Ripped them off 'n' I miss Mod3 but I get a Mod8. Gonna run them through protracker to see what they sound like through that 'n' if they sound OK I'll re-save them and re-save them.

List:mod1, mod3, mod4, mod5, mod6, mod7, mod8
there is no mod2!!!

DH · 05 February 2009, 21:33

Hmmm. will keep looking for the hidden mod3 it must be hiding somewhere secretive

DH · 05 February 2009, 21:38

Just checked the first one 'n' checked the sample that was causing the funny noise and it does look like the sample has been garbled at the end. Check it yourself Mod1 Sample 3 (KRISTALFLUTE be the name of the sample)

DH · 05 February 2009, 21:41

I've just cut off the garbled stuff 'n' it seems OK, wonder if the length was reported longer in ExoticRipper than what it really was.

btw. This is not really a solution, I will have a closer look tomorrow.

DH · 05 February 2009, 21:49

I may of cracked it.

It seems to be the sample KRISTALFLUTE in them all that appears to be buggered. So, if this is in another mod I'll be able to replace it with the good one, then things should play normally, hopefully.

mai · 05 February 2009, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

I may of cracked it.

It seems to be the sample KRISTALFLUTE in them all that appears to be buggered. So, if this is in another mod I'll be able to replace it with the good one, then things should play normally, hopefully.

The Kristalflute sample is also in mod5, but the problem is the size of the sample is different.

DH · 05 February 2009, 22:05

Hmmm. Jack the Ripper has exactly the same outcome. Wonder if it was damaged in the cracking process.

Do they actually play OK in the game?

mai · 05 February 2009, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Do they actually play OK in the game?

If i remember right, in the game one of the corruptd mods sounds ok, but i have not played the whole game, so i was not able to hear all mods.

DH · 05 February 2009, 22:12

Well based on that, I would say the sample is strangely being destroyed by the ripping process. I've got a few more thing to try so I haven't given up yet.

Asle · 05 February 2009, 23:36

my contribution

Ok, just basing my assumptions on MOD.game1, which is on both disk 1 and disk 3. The one on disk 3 is wrong too but the "garbage" is shorter. I suspect a problem on the disk. BUT, since it's strictly the same for Quartex and EP versions, I'd guess it's at the master level. Now, how can MOD.game1 sound "right" when playing ? (I did

, well, it doesn't in fact. Try to mem rip it, it's the one being played right at the beginning (when there's a boat to move, etc..). Then put that in your Cool Edit Pro (or the like) editor, you'll see a clear cut'n'replace where the garbage was. The end of the sample is thus another one, the end of a guitar or something. So, no, even the game is wrong. Now what ?

I've "cool edit"-ed the disks and there's no other part with samples which are usable. Or so that's my quick analysis. Might be wrong.
I, too, will have a look later. This week-end, most probably

Cya
Sylvain

mai · 05 February 2009, 23:44

Thank you both, i hope one of you will be succesful.

DH · 05 February 2009, 23:54

Going to rip it with Action replay direct from memory. If the sample, KRISTALFLUTE, is OK from that I'll just save it out and import it in over the other samples in the other mods 'n' see if that works. Of course we'll probably be guessing on the sample repeat point if it has one.

DH · 06 February 2009, 08:40

Mod1 working fine, but as you said the sample sizes are different in the other mods so when I've imported the Kristalflute sample it definitely doesn't sound right

mai · 06 February 2009, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Mod1 working fine, but as you said the sample sizes are different in the other mods so when I've imported the Kristalflute sample it definitely doesn't sound right

Ok, seems to be a real problem with this mods.
In the past, i have also tried to reconstruct the "kristalflute" sample, but i dont know anymore, if i was succesful.
If i remember right, the lost part of the sample is located somewhere on disk.
Maybe i was able to rebuilt the sample, sounds ok.
But as i have said, i am not sure enough, because i dont know, if i have cutted at the right position.
And by the way, i have also tried to find this sample in other "Idea" productions, but its not used by any other mod.

This is my attempt for comparing:

05 February 2009, 20:26	#1
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Swords and Galeons I am still looking for comlete diskrip for the game "Swords and Galleons"!! I think there is no download available. If you try to rip the music, you will think, its absolutly simple, any ripper recognize the Protracker mods. But, if you listen to the music you can hear, there is something wrong with some mods. The complete rip has 7 mods, especially with mod1, mod3, and mod5 is something wrong. I am not sure, if the samples are trashed on the disk, or if some samples are corrupt, its also possible, that the infos in the songdata about the sample size are wrong. I would be very grateful, if anybody have a look at the disks. Maybe anybody have the skill.

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05 February 2009, 21:01	#2
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Will check it sometime tonight mai, probably won't get back to you until tomorrow but I'll keep you posted mate

05 February 2009, 21:03	#3
Asle Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paris/France Age: 52 Posts: 527	hi, point to the file, please

05 February 2009, 21:17	#4
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	Here you go Asle : http://www.planetemu.net/?section=re...&rubrique=roms Edit : Congrats DH

05 February 2009, 21:27	#5
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Thank you all for the efforts, i hope there is nothing wrong with the samples(corrupted). I have also tried to find IPF-images for comparing purpose, but i was not succesful.

05 February 2009, 21:27	#6
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Cheers TCD @Mai Ripped them off 'n' I miss Mod3 but I get a Mod8. Gonna run them through protracker to see what they sound like through that 'n' if they sound OK I'll re-name them and re-save them.

05 February 2009, 21:33	#8
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Hmmm. will keep looking for the hidden mod3 it must be hiding somewhere secretive

05 February 2009, 21:38	#9
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Just checked the first one 'n' checked the sample that was causing the funny noise and it does look like the sample has been garbled at the end. Check it yourself Mod1 Sample 3 (KRISTALFLUTE be the name of the sample)

05 February 2009, 21:41	#10
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	I've just cut off the garbled stuff 'n' it seems OK, wonder if the length was reported longer in ExoticRipper than what it really was. btw. This is not really a solution, I will have a closer look tomorrow.

05 February 2009, 21:49	#11
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	I may of cracked it. It seems to be the sample KRISTALFLUTE in them all that appears to be buggered. So, if this is in another mod I'll be able to replace it with the good one, then things should play normally, hopefully.

05 February 2009, 22:05	#13
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Hmmm. Jack the Ripper has exactly the same outcome. Wonder if it was damaged in the cracking process. Do they actually play OK in the game?

05 February 2009, 22:12	#15
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Well based on that, I would say the sample is strangely being destroyed by the ripping process. I've got a few more thing to try so I haven't given up yet.

05 February 2009, 23:36	#16
Asle Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paris/France Age: 52 Posts: 527	my contribution Ok, just basing my assumptions on MOD.game1, which is on both disk 1 and disk 3. The one on disk 3 is wrong too but the "garbage" is shorter. I suspect a problem on the disk. BUT, since it's strictly the same for Quartex and EP versions, I'd guess it's at the master level. Now, how can MOD.game1 sound "right" when playing ? (I did , well, it doesn't in fact. Try to mem rip it, it's the one being played right at the beginning (when there's a boat to move, etc..). Then put that in your Cool Edit Pro (or the like) editor, you'll see a clear cut'n'replace where the garbage was. The end of the sample is thus another one, the end of a guitar or something. So, no, even the game is wrong. Now what ? I've "cool edit"-ed the disks and there's no other part with samples which are usable. Or so that's my quick analysis. Might be wrong. I, too, will have a look later. This week-end, most probably Cya Sylvain

05 February 2009, 23:44	#17
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Thank you both, i hope one of you will be succesful.

05 February 2009, 23:54	#18
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Going to rip it with Action replay direct from memory. If the sample, KRISTALFLUTE, is OK from that I'll just save it out and import it in over the other samples in the other mods 'n' see if that works. Of course we'll probably be guessing on the sample repeat point if it has one.

06 February 2009, 08:40	#19
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Mod1 working fine, but as you said the sample sizes are different in the other mods so when I've imported the Kristalflute sample it definitely doesn't sound right

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