Bomb Jack Beer Edition - Page 3

mcgeezer · 14 January 2018, 15:40

Hi all,

I just want to add there's a great update on Bomb Jack in that thanks to Saimon69 we've now added music. For technical updates check out the coders thread.

Latest video update is here [ Show youtube player ]

jotd · 14 January 2018, 17:54

the remade music isn't bad at all. The game visuals itself is very close to the arcade (except for Bombjack moves). I heard that those bird moves were a bitch to code.

I think you saw the reverse engineered asm version of the arcade game? it's somewhere.

mcgeezer · 14 January 2018, 22:56

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Originally Posted by jotd

I think you saw the reverse engineered asm version of the arcade game? it's somewhere.

Haven't seen the ASM version of the arcade game, given it's z80 it would be quite hard to recode to 68000 anyway. Besides the Amiga hardware and the Tehkan/Tecmo board are miles apart.

Doing the enemy formations is indeed hard, not impossible though.

jotd · 15 January 2018, 07:23

I have recoded a Z80 arcade game in C++. The Z80 code helped me a lot for enemy A.I. and speeds and such. I don't see how it would be different for a 68k version.

mcgeezer · 15 January 2018, 07:57

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Originally Posted by jotd

I have recoded a Z80 arcade game in C++. The Z80 code helped me a lot for enemy A.I. and speeds and such. I don't see how it would be different for a 68k version.

There’s an element of bucket list and personal acheivment that is associated with what i am doing. Back in 1990 as a developer i would not have had access to the z80 code. It is why all development is being done using tools from back in the day, with the exception of the gfx and music.

Hope that makes sense.

jotd · 15 January 2018, 21:00

I also remade some other games without the original code and it's very difficult to match the gameplay just by looking at how the game behaves. It's your project!

mcgeezer · 15 January 2018, 23:49

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Originally Posted by jotd

I also remade some other games without the original code and it's very difficult to match the gameplay just by looking at how the game behaves. It's your project!

Yep - exactly the same circumstances that the game developers had back in the day and precisely the challenge I have set for myself on my project.

Amiga1992 · 16 January 2018, 17:14

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Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Yep - exactly the same circumstances that the game developers had back in the day

SOME times they did get access to code and assets

Unfortunately, very few

jotd · 16 January 2018, 21:28

Sometimes they'd go and get it. Like Richard Aplin with Final Fight when he ripped the graphics out of the original board. He didn't rip the code, though

van_dammesque · 22 January 2018, 21:21

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Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Yep, beer cap not on the bottle and foaming.

Wont do newcastle brown mate, i’m a mackem.

(BTW People I'm from the same area (did live in Newcastle but I am from a place immediatly close to him, and it is a football rivalry thing, pure tongue in cheek ofc!)

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Will likely be my favourite lager which is peroni.

Funnily enough I quite like that, it is expensive though!

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Rygar game - really dont know, follow the coders thread. That lad sandruzzo decided to continue last i read, i offered though as i love rygar. In all honesty i’m thinking of doing something a bit bolder - like hotline miami on 68k. Not a big technical challenge, but a big gaming chalenge all the same.

Ps4 vs Amiga a500? Yes please

Thanks for the info checking it out now, for others:
Link

Now onto the game:
Great progress so far, however, just putting it out there for thoughts, but I prefer the pace and gameplay of the ZX Spectrumover the arcade, give it a whirl and see if an option in the game can slow down the pace of the gameplay to similar ZX thrills. The lack of pace doesn't detract from the gameplay IMO!

[ Show youtube player ]

mcgeezer · 23 January 2018, 16:33

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Originally Posted by van_dammesque

(BTW People I'm from the same area (did live in Newcastle but I am from a place immediatly close to him, and it is a football rivalry thing, pure tongue in cheek ofc!)

Funnily enough I quite like that, it is expensive though!

Thanks for the info checking it out now, for others:
Link

Now onto the game:
Great progress so far, however, just putting it out there for thoughts, but I prefer the pace and gameplay of the ZX Spectrumover the arcade, give it a whirl and see if an option in the game can slow down the pace of the gameplay to similar ZX thrills. The lack of pace doesn't detract from the gameplay IMO!

[ Show youtube player ]

You're not from the smog are you, one must wear appropriate attire when passing the smog on the A19 such as a radiation suit

Seriously though, thanks for your feedback. I did actually love the Speccy version of the game but my aim is to try and port the arcade version of the game. I suppose I can think about adjusting all the difficulty settings, but to get it to play similar to the Speccy version would be a difficult task because it's so damn slow it would take me an age to debug.

Over the moon you've suggested stuff though, keep them coming.

And lastly.... Peroni or Blue Moon is my beverage of choice... expensive yes but quality.

van_dammesque · 24 January 2018, 19:45

Just one thing; include an option like the spectrum does, that is, to allow an always high jump. This would enable single fire joysticks to play better. Sorry if this has already been mentioned!

mcgeezer · 24 January 2018, 19:55

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Originally Posted by van_dammesque

Just one thing; include an option like the spectrum does, that is, to allow an always high jump. This would enable single fire joysticks to play better. Sorry if this has already been mentioned!

Currently you push up on the joystick for extra lift or down when falling for faster fall. Sorted.

mcgeezer · 11 February 2018, 22:26

Here' the latest update... given it's February.

Things are progressing well, you can watch a video of the game running on real hardware [ Show youtube player ]

If you want to test run the game yourself then you can download the ADF

Very important - the game will only run on an A500(+) config with 0.5mb chip ram with 0.5mb fake fast ram, it is currently not compatible with any other config.

If you want the technical details you can follow my thread in the coding section.

Hope you like it!

Lorfarius · 11 February 2018, 23:07

Looks amazing!

Predseda · 12 February 2018, 07:40

I want it boxed!

vulture · 12 February 2018, 08:52

that's just excellent!

dlfrsilver · 12 February 2018, 10:01

yes we want it boxed

!!!!

mcgeezer · 12 February 2018, 12:41

Do you mean like a boxed commercial title with a floppy disk and stuff?

Are people even still doing that?

Predseda · 12 February 2018, 12:57

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14 January 2018, 15:40	#41
mcgeezer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sunderland, England Posts: 2,702	Hi all, I just want to add there's a great update on Bomb Jack in that thanks to Saimon69 we've now added music. For technical updates check out the coders thread. Latest video update is here [ Show youtube player ]

14 January 2018, 17:54	#42
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	the remade music isn't bad at all. The game visuals itself is very close to the arcade (except for Bombjack moves). I heard that those bird moves were a bitch to code. I think you saw the reverse engineered asm version of the arcade game? it's somewhere.

15 January 2018, 07:23	#44
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	I have recoded a Z80 arcade game in C++. The Z80 code helped me a lot for enemy A.I. and speeds and such. I don't see how it would be different for a 68k version.

15 January 2018, 21:00	#46
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	I also remade some other games without the original code and it's very difficult to match the gameplay just by looking at how the game behaves. It's your project!

16 January 2018, 21:28	#49
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Sometimes they'd go and get it. Like Richard Aplin with Final Fight when he ripped the graphics out of the original board. He didn't rip the code, though

24 January 2018, 19:45	#52
van_dammesque Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: England Posts: 228	Just one thing; include an option like the spectrum does, that is, to allow an always high jump. This would enable single fire joysticks to play better. Sorry if this has already been mentioned!

11 February 2018, 22:26	#54
mcgeezer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sunderland, England Posts: 2,702	Here' the latest update... given it's February. Things are progressing well, you can watch a video of the game running on real hardware [ Show youtube player ] If you want to test run the game yourself then you can download the ADF Very important - the game will only run on an A500(+) config with 0.5mb chip ram with 0.5mb fake fast ram, it is currently not compatible with any other config. If you want the technical details you can follow my thread in the coding section. Hope you like it!

11 February 2018, 23:07	#55
Lorfarius Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Glossop/UK Posts: 532	Looks amazing!

12 February 2018, 07:40	#56
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	I want it boxed!

12 February 2018, 08:52	#57
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	that's just excellent!

12 February 2018, 10:01	#58
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	yes we want it boxed !!!!

12 February 2018, 12:41	#59
mcgeezer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sunderland, England Posts: 2,702	Do you mean like a boxed commercial title with a floppy disk and stuff? Are people even still doing that?

12 February 2018, 12:57	#60
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539

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