preview better than full game? - Page 3

Michael · 22 December 2015, 19:16

Fears had a very long evolution.
The very first demo was very cool because it worked very speedy on vanilla A1200.
And it feature textured wall, polygon floor and ceiling with copper colour shades.
The final game is a pure texture mapped engine that is also much slower and needs a pimped up machine.
So an original demo based game would have been cool, and could have been released much earlier then any other 3D game.

s2325 · 07 February 2016, 23:45

Uridium 2 preview had some Alien Breed-style levels [ Show youtube player ]

Shatterhand · 08 February 2016, 02:29

I am pretty sure those Alien Breed-style levels never went beyond prototiping, and it was dropped very early on the development, because Andrew Braybrook thought they were too slow and were too out of place with the rest of the game. That was replaced with the core destruction mini-game.

All those snaps are from the Diary that went for a few months on The One magazine. I remember reading this diary completely month after month. Funny thing is that the diary ended with "We will se the game ready in 2 months" or something like that, but they game still kept being developed for around 18-24 months. So those snaps are from a very early point on development of the game. At some point, Mr. Braybrook was also toying with using a dual playfield mode and have a layer of parallax between the dreadnoughts and the starfield, but he felt it looked to bad with so few colors (and judging by screenshots, I agree with him), so he dropped it.

RetroPaul · 08 February 2016, 15:24

I remember Team-17's Overdrive demo being really good, i played it to death trying to beat my times.

The final game for some reason was poor and nowhere near as playable.

s2325 · 08 February 2016, 15:33

Do you remember some details?

DisposableHero · 10 February 2016, 00:08

I know Overdrive wasn't all 90-degree corners while in development, but only from seeing previews. Never played a demo version, think I did try the full game via emulation at some point and thought it was quite good.

gimbal · 10 February 2016, 22:06

Back to the Future 3 for sure, since it featured the shooting gallery which is the only bit of the game I actually find fun

(well I guess the pie throwing bit isn't too bad)

s2325 · 27 February 2016, 22:53

Is it mockup or you can shoot right but look to the left?

Gzegzolka · 27 February 2016, 22:59

It's not only main character, but also stage and robots, they are different from final game. There were not mine carts and robots in them. This could be some kind of early mine/cave level.

s2325 · 01 March 2016, 22:32

I think preview of Terminator 2: Arcade had some racing level:

http://amr.abime.net/review_49566
But it may be from some other game for Mega Drive.

turrican9 · 02 March 2016, 17:35

Tricking people with a nice demo

It's just like if you meet a future partner and they show their best sides to you in the beginning (you get a good demo). Then as you get to know them better you discover their true sides (the full game)

But once you are in it, it's not so easy to get out of it

s2325 · 15 March 2016, 22:11

"Alien" included only in preview of Dark Seed:

[ Show youtube player ]

Shatterhand · 15 March 2016, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

I think preview of Terminator 2: Arcade had some racing level:

http://amr.abime.net/review_49566
But it may be from some other game for Mega Drive.

This looks a lot like either the SNES or Mega-Drive version.

[ Show youtube player ]

(Around 4:15 mark, or around 19:00 mark)

EDIT:

Checking the MEga-Drive version, just found a moment that looks A LOT like this:

[ Show youtube player ]

at 43:50

s2325 · 24 March 2016, 22:22

Alien Breed 3D preview with different HUD and enemies - slideshow based on scans [ Show youtube player ]

Gzegzolka · 25 March 2016, 08:48

I wish that HUD was in final version, it looks so much better than that metallic "thing" from final release. It was too much abstract. It also seems that first HUD got place for much more information (3 status bars - probably life, ammo and something else - armor? different ammo type?) and more items than there was (four big slots - maybe for key cards and lot of small box slots below).
Second thing is enemy design - green alien was similar to aliens from classic AB - maybe Team17 try to avoid copyright claims.

dirk_the_daring · 25 March 2016, 11:12

The New Zealand Story Amiga Format Demo (Found on AF001 cover Disk http://amr.rumpigs.net/amiga_format_...89_08_d001.zip ) has better music than the final version, when comparing both final version sound like as it is corrupted (with a slightly annoying pitch bug in lots of moments).

s2325 · 30 March 2016, 20:53

I don't remember Luke on screen:

s2325 · 05 August 2016, 13:37

s2325 · 13 August 2016, 18:49

Jaguar XJ220 preview and full:

s2325 · 01 October 2016, 08:41

Turbo Out Run from Action Masters box and full. It's not Atari ST version:

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22 December 2015, 19:16	#41
Michael A1260T/PPC/BV/SCSI/NET Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Moscow / Russia Posts: 840	Fears had a very long evolution. The very first demo was very cool because it worked very speedy on vanilla A1200. And it feature textured wall, polygon floor and ceiling with copper colour shades. The final game is a pure texture mapped engine that is also much slower and needs a pimped up machine. So an original demo based game would have been cool, and could have been released much earlier then any other 3D game.

07 February 2016, 23:45	#42
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Uridium 2 preview had some Alien Breed-style levels [ Show youtube player ]

08 February 2016, 02:29	#43
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I am pretty sure those Alien Breed-style levels never went beyond prototiping, and it was dropped very early on the development, because Andrew Braybrook thought they were too slow and were too out of place with the rest of the game. That was replaced with the core destruction mini-game. All those snaps are from the Diary that went for a few months on The One magazine. I remember reading this diary completely month after month. Funny thing is that the diary ended with "We will se the game ready in 2 months" or something like that, but they game still kept being developed for around 18-24 months. So those snaps are from a very early point on development of the game. At some point, Mr. Braybrook was also toying with using a dual playfield mode and have a layer of parallax between the dreadnoughts and the starfield, but he felt it looked to bad with so few colors (and judging by screenshots, I agree with him), so he dropped it.

08 February 2016, 15:24	#44
RetroPaul Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Coventry/UK Posts: 63	I remember Team-17's Overdrive demo being really good, i played it to death trying to beat my times. The final game for some reason was poor and nowhere near as playable.

08 February 2016, 15:33	#45
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Do you remember some details?

10 February 2016, 00:08	#46
DisposableHero Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: England Posts: 188	I know Overdrive wasn't all 90-degree corners while in development, but only from seeing previews. Never played a demo version, think I did try the full game via emulation at some point and thought it was quite good.

10 February 2016, 22:06	#47
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,919	Back to the Future 3 for sure, since it featured the shooting gallery which is the only bit of the game I actually find fun (well I guess the pie throwing bit isn't too bad)

27 February 2016, 22:53	#48
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Is it mockup or you can shoot right but look to the left?

27 February 2016, 22:59	#49
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,859	It's not only main character, but also stage and robots, they are different from final game. There were not mine carts and robots in them. This could be some kind of early mine/cave level.

01 March 2016, 22:32	#50
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I think preview of Terminator 2: Arcade had some racing level: http://amr.abime.net/review_49566 But it may be from some other game for Mega Drive.

02 March 2016, 17:35	#51
turrican9 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Norway Age: 47 Posts: 893	Tricking people with a nice demo It's just like if you meet a future partner and they show their best sides to you in the beginning (you get a good demo). Then as you get to know them better you discover their true sides (the full game) But once you are in it, it's not so easy to get out of it

15 March 2016, 22:11	#52
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	"Alien" included only in preview of Dark Seed: [ Show youtube player ]

24 March 2016, 22:22	#54
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Alien Breed 3D preview with different HUD and enemies - slideshow based on scans [ Show youtube player ]

25 March 2016, 08:48	#55
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,859	I wish that HUD was in final version, it looks so much better than that metallic "thing" from final release. It was too much abstract. It also seems that first HUD got place for much more information (3 status bars - probably life, ammo and something else - armor? different ammo type?) and more items than there was (four big slots - maybe for key cards and lot of small box slots below). Second thing is enemy design - green alien was similar to aliens from classic AB - maybe Team17 try to avoid copyright claims.

25 March 2016, 11:12	#56
dirk_the_daring Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alicante / Spain Posts: 150	The New Zealand Story Amiga Format Demo (Found on AF001 cover Disk http://amr.rumpigs.net/amiga_format_...89_08_d001.zip ) has better music than the final version, when comparing both final version sound like as it is corrupted (with a slightly annoying pitch bug in lots of moments).

30 March 2016, 20:53	#57
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I don't remember Luke on screen:

05 August 2016, 13:37	#58
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789

13 August 2016, 18:49	#59
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Jaguar XJ220 preview and full:

01 October 2016, 08:41	#60
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Turbo Out Run from Action Masters box and full. It's not Atari ST version:

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