ADoom works really well even with Amigaos 4.1 is there a reason?

White · 20 September 2018, 20:00

Hi Toni, thank you for your last beta
Today I tried ADoom with Amigaos 4.1 it goes really fast without the need to use E-UAE
ADoom starts directly within the emulation
There are special reasons why ADoom is so fast
I know you're not watching videos, but maybe it could help
Thanks for a possible answer

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White · 21 September 2018, 00:05

I meant the 68k versions of doom and quake run very fast
I had never tried these versions with amigaos 4.1
I think I asked the wrong question :-)

Toni Wilen · 21 September 2018, 09:42

Don't ask me. I am not interested in running ports of PC games.

Anyway, Doom is pure integer. Quake uses FPU heavily, PPC emulation uses softfloat only which is slow.

White · 21 September 2018, 11:58

Hi Toni
thanks for your reply and your patience, I always ask to learn
So it is normal that quake 68k goes so fast in software version
in this case the "JIT" is not enabled, it is the configuration that I always use for 4.1
I asked the question because maybe it can be useful in some way
Thanks again

here a little video of how fast it is quake
[ Show youtube player ]

kriz · 21 September 2018, 12:46

Adoom is not hitting the hardare it is system friendly, all system friendly software works fi ne .. Is the ones that shut down the system behind and do their own thing that you need to use uae on ... Same with softwware like ibrowse and other workbench software, will work totally fine on OS4/MOS/Aros ..

White · 21 September 2018, 13:01

@kriz
Thanks for the explanation
so it's normal that quake is so fast?
This thing seemed strange to me
I had never tried "quake" on 4.1 before

Valken · 21 September 2018, 13:50

Those videos were AMAZING to watch... and I still play Doom (Brutal Doom and Project Brutality) but need a high IPC CPU to run it maxed out.

White · 21 September 2018, 15:12

It also works quake 2 slightly slower
Toni thanks again! for this fantastic software that gets better every day
This makes my experiments and my fun possible.
This adds another piece to my emulation.
Thanks again :-)

AMIGASYSTEM · 21 September 2018, 16:20

Yes Paolo unfortunately OS4.1 has this limitation, have you tried OpenArena and Quake3? on AFA-OS it works very well.

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White · 21 September 2018, 16:35

Hi AMIGASYSTEM,
I had tried on afaos but I lost the executable 68k I can not find the links anymore it seems to me no longer exist
What I pointed out on 4.1 is that the 68k work very well, while the "ppc" versions are slow for doom and quake.
Do you know the link for "openarena" for the executable 68k?
Thank you!

AMIGASYSTEM · 21 September 2018, 16:41

The links are here on eab and you find them also on Amiganews.it where you also find my reviews (your interventions are always welcome)

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...=openarena+68k

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=quake

White · 21 September 2018, 16:47

@AMIGASYSTEM
thanks, I could not find them anymore
Thanks again!

AMIGASYSTEM · 21 September 2018, 17:00

Paul I did not understand, what can not you find?
--- italiano ---
Paolo non ho capito, cosa non riesci a trovare?

White · 21 September 2018, 17:39

I could not find the openarena executable anymore
with your link now I found them
:-)

AMIGASYSTEM · 21 September 2018, 17:46

OK, two Italians who speak English of which one uses a translator is really hard to be understood

---- Italiano ----
OK, due italiani che parlano inglese di cui uno usa translator è veramente difficile farsi capire

White · 21 September 2018, 17:48

White · 21 September 2018, 19:55

Well changed the executable for quake, now it works perfectly including audio.
I think it can be added to the programs that work with 4.1
I hope not to take space
Maybe for those interested you can add to the tutorial for 4.1
Thanks again and sorry, for me it's always nice to add new things.
I hope it is useful.
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White · 22 September 2018, 15:18

Hi
which is the best configuration to make the most of the fpu-softfloat for 64-bit winuae with 4.1
here is quake2 test
[ Show youtube player ]

Thank you so much for every help and suggest

White · 22 September 2018, 21:59

Hi, even Doom now works perfectly including the sound
the application for 4.1 is PrBoomGL, located on osdepot
here a small video with the right settings for the render software
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White · 26 September 2018, 12:09

Hi,
Ok also Duke Nukem 3D works
important for those who want to try these games with 4.1 must be enabled in the winuae the option "hardware sprite emulation"
here a little video:
[ Show youtube player ]

20 September 2018, 20:00	#1
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	ADoom works really well even with Amigaos 4.1 is there a reason? Hi Toni, thank you for your last beta Today I tried ADoom with Amigaos 4.1 it goes really fast without the need to use E-UAE ADoom starts directly within the emulation There are special reasons why ADoom is so fast I know you're not watching videos, but maybe it could help Thanks for a possible answer [ Show youtube player ]

22 September 2018, 21:59	#19
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	Hi, even Doom now works perfectly including the sound the application for 4.1 is PrBoomGL, located on osdepot here a small video with the right settings for the render software [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by White; 22 September 2018 at 23:33.

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21 September 2018, 00:05	#2
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	I meant the 68k versions of doom and quake run very fast I had never tried these versions with amigaos 4.1 I think I asked the wrong question :-)

21 September 2018, 09:42	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Don't ask me. I am not interested in running ports of PC games. Anyway, Doom is pure integer. Quake uses FPU heavily, PPC emulation uses softfloat only which is slow.

21 September 2018, 11:58	#4
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	Hi Toni thanks for your reply and your patience, I always ask to learn So it is normal that quake 68k goes so fast in software version in this case the "JIT" is not enabled, it is the configuration that I always use for 4.1 I asked the question because maybe it can be useful in some way Thanks again here a little video of how fast it is quake [ Show youtube player ]

21 September 2018, 12:46	#5
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	Adoom is not hitting the hardare it is system friendly, all system friendly software works fi ne .. Is the ones that shut down the system behind and do their own thing that you need to use uae on ... Same with softwware like ibrowse and other workbench software, will work totally fine on OS4/MOS/Aros ..

21 September 2018, 13:01	#6
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	@kriz Thanks for the explanation so it's normal that quake is so fast? This thing seemed strange to me I had never tried "quake" on 4.1 before

21 September 2018, 13:50	#7
Valken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Amiga Posts: 465	Those videos were AMAZING to watch... and I still play Doom (Brutal Doom and Project Brutality) but need a high IPC CPU to run it maxed out.

21 September 2018, 15:12	#8
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	It also works quake 2 slightly slower Toni thanks again! for this fantastic software that gets better every day This makes my experiments and my fun possible. This adds another piece to my emulation. Thanks again :-)

21 September 2018, 16:20	#9
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Yes Paolo unfortunately OS4.1 has this limitation, have you tried OpenArena and Quake3? on AFA-OS it works very well. [ Show youtube player ]

21 September 2018, 16:35	#10
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	Hi AMIGASYSTEM, I had tried on afaos but I lost the executable 68k I can not find the links anymore it seems to me no longer exist What I pointed out on 4.1 is that the 68k work very well, while the "ppc" versions are slow for doom and quake. Do you know the link for "openarena" for the executable 68k? Thank you!

21 September 2018, 16:41	#11
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	The links are here on eab and you find them also on Amiganews.it where you also find my reviews (your interventions are always welcome) http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...=openarena+68k http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=quake

21 September 2018, 16:47	#12
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	@AMIGASYSTEM thanks, I could not find them anymore Thanks again!

21 September 2018, 17:00	#13
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Paul I did not understand, what can not you find? --- italiano --- Paolo non ho capito, cosa non riesci a trovare?

21 September 2018, 17:39	#14
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	I could not find the openarena executable anymore with your link now I found them :-)

21 September 2018, 17:46	#15
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	OK, two Italians who speak English of which one uses a translator is really hard to be understood ---- Italiano ---- OK, due italiani che parlano inglese di cui uno usa translator è veramente difficile farsi capire

21 September 2018, 17:48	#16
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480

21 September 2018, 19:55	#17
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	Well changed the executable for quake, now it works perfectly including audio. I think it can be added to the programs that work with 4.1 I hope not to take space Maybe for those interested you can add to the tutorial for 4.1 Thanks again and sorry, for me it's always nice to add new things. I hope it is useful. [ Show youtube player ]

22 September 2018, 15:18	#18
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	Hi which is the best configuration to make the most of the fpu-softfloat for 64-bit winuae with 4.1 here is quake2 test [ Show youtube player ] Thank you so much for every help and suggest

26 September 2018, 12:09	#20
White Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: italy Posts: 1,480	Hi, Ok also Duke Nukem 3D works important for those who want to try these games with 4.1 must be enabled in the winuae the option "hardware sprite emulation" here a little video: [ Show youtube player ]

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