A500 to 1084S help - Page 2

bLAZER · 23 January 2009, 00:59

Hey kixs, slightly off-topic but would you mind taking a few photos of the 1084s from all angles? I started modelling it in 3D but I can't find any descent photos.

kixs · 23 January 2009, 01:57

With all the poking with the cables A500 lost power... I mentioned the problem earlier.

bLAZER:
I'll do that. You'll just have to wait till tomorrow evening. But as already said its the first model of 1084 without the 's'.

The front looks like this one:

DH · 23 January 2009, 08:20

Sorry to here that mate!

You'll just have to open her up and see if it's just the solder joints on the power connector. Hopefully it is 'n' it won't be too hard for you to fix.

Keep us updated 'cause we want to know how you get on

DH · 23 January 2009, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

Where do you score that from? I've got a Amiga Video Out -> Scart and when my Amiga Screen dies, that RGB Scart adapter looks like the future to use on a cheap LCD screen. looks cheaper then a scan doubler too.

If you've bought a Wii/Playstation2/Playstation3 etc. etc. They all come with them mate! They are not exclusive to computers or designed for LCD monitors you know

They are soley for connecting AV equipment to a TV or or other AV equipment.

It may look cheap 'n' tacky, but I've got one of those and it does the job I expected it to do. It doesn't take a brain surgeon on how it works it's very simple and extremely easy to DIY one yourself that would do exactly the same job + there's no loss in quality whichever route you take, you know it's only RGB.

So before you knock something you know nothing about, I suggest you try one first.

Edit: I'm also trying to help and you're not

kixs · 24 January 2009, 01:55

bLAZER:
I uploaded some photos here:
http://picasaweb.google.si/kixs97/AmigaStuff#

If you need some more or from other angle, let me know.

Connectors on the back are also shown. Quite good monitor

PS:
I'm searching for a working Amiga 1200...

Jope · 24 January 2009, 10:14

The first cable is for C-64 use! Luminance (yellow), Chroma (red) and Audio (white). You can't use the aforementioned scart adapter with it, unless you convert the separate luma + chroma rca connections into a single s-video connection with a cable you solder yourself.

The 1084 has the three RCA connectors on it's back to accept the C-64 cable, as you can see the colours match: http://picasaweb.google.si/kixs97/Am...56171774070194

These Philips monitors have a reputation for bad solder joints, so if you get the flickering problem again, try and resolder the scart connector's pins inside the monitor like DemonHellraiser mentioned before. The connector is held to the PCB with only the solder joints + two flimsy plastic clips, so it has to bear the weight + twist of the scart cable almost only with the solder joints.

What a thread.. Lots of back and forth action. Please research before posting, everyone. :-)

DH · 24 January 2009, 13:41

Cheers Jope

I think we all needed a boost in knowledge from these old style cables and monitors, it's confusing when we see cables that correspond to today's composite and audio ones.

Anyway, I've actually had to re-solder vga socket joints on some older PC monitors 'cause they suffered from the same problem.

Once again, thanks for your expert advice and knowledge

bLAZER · 24 January 2009, 13:56

Thanks for the photos kixs! I'll let you know if I need some more.

prowler · 24 January 2009, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

These Philips monitors have a reputation for bad solder joints...

Philips televisions manufactured during this period had the same reputation.

Jope · 24 January 2009, 23:42

I rarely buy any Philips products because of their .. well, crapness. :-)

kixs · 25 January 2009, 12:02

Jope:
thanks for clearing things up.

kixs · 02 February 2009, 12:56

Finally fixed the power problem with A500.

SCART cable had loose connectors but that didn't fixed it. After checking it with multimeter the green lead is broken somewhere. I decided to make a new softer and a bit longer cable. This one is less than a meter long and really hard.

PS:
I'm still buying A1200... but prices are quite insane these days

I guess I might just gave up on buying it.

prowler · 02 February 2009, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by kixs

I'm still buying A1200... but prices are quite insane these days

I guess I might just gave up on buying it.

Hey kixs,

Check this thread for a nice A1200.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=42373

prowler

Phiber · 03 February 2009, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by kixs

With all the poking with the cables A500 lost power... I mentioned the problem earlier.

bLAZER:
I'll do that. You'll just have to wait till tomorrow evening. But as already said its the first model of 1084 without the 's'.

The front looks like this one:

The "S"-letter indicates that the monitor is equipped with 2 speakers.. S for Stereo u know.. 1084 without S is a monospeaker monitor..

24 January 2009, 10:14	#26
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	The first cable is for C-64 use! Luminance (yellow), Chroma (red) and Audio (white). You can't use the aforementioned scart adapter with it, unless you convert the separate luma + chroma rca connections into a single s-video connection with a cable you solder yourself. The 1084 has the three RCA connectors on it's back to accept the C-64 cable, as you can see the colours match: http://picasaweb.google.si/kixs97/Am...56171774070194 These Philips monitors have a reputation for bad solder joints, so if you get the flickering problem again, try and resolder the scart connector's pins inside the monitor like DemonHellraiser mentioned before. The connector is held to the PCB with only the solder joints + two flimsy plastic clips, so it has to bear the weight + twist of the scart cable almost only with the solder joints. What a thread.. Lots of back and forth action. Please research before posting, everyone. :-) Last edited by Jope; 24 January 2009 at 10:22.

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23 January 2009, 00:59	#21
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Hey kixs, slightly off-topic but would you mind taking a few photos of the 1084s from all angles? I started modelling it in 3D but I can't find any descent photos.

23 January 2009, 01:57	#22
kixs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EU Posts: 146	With all the poking with the cables A500 lost power... I mentioned the problem earlier. bLAZER: I'll do that. You'll just have to wait till tomorrow evening. But as already said its the first model of 1084 without the 's'. The front looks like this one:

23 January 2009, 08:20	#23
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Sorry to here that mate! You'll just have to open her up and see if it's just the solder joints on the power connector. Hopefully it is 'n' it won't be too hard for you to fix. Keep us updated 'cause we want to know how you get on

24 January 2009, 01:55	#25
kixs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EU Posts: 146	bLAZER: I uploaded some photos here: http://picasaweb.google.si/kixs97/AmigaStuff# If you need some more or from other angle, let me know. Connectors on the back are also shown. Quite good monitor PS: I'm searching for a working Amiga 1200...

24 January 2009, 13:41	#27
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Cheers Jope I think we all needed a boost in knowledge from these old style cables and monitors, it's confusing when we see cables that correspond to today's composite and audio ones. Anyway, I've actually had to re-solder vga socket joints on some older PC monitors 'cause they suffered from the same problem. Once again, thanks for your expert advice and knowledge

24 January 2009, 13:56	#28
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Thanks for the photos kixs! I'll let you know if I need some more.

24 January 2009, 23:42	#30
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	I rarely buy any Philips products because of their .. well, crapness. :-)

25 January 2009, 12:02	#31
kixs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EU Posts: 146	Jope: thanks for clearing things up.

02 February 2009, 12:56	#32
kixs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EU Posts: 146	Finally fixed the power problem with A500. SCART cable had loose connectors but that didn't fixed it. After checking it with multimeter the green lead is broken somewhere. I decided to make a new softer and a bit longer cable. This one is less than a meter long and really hard. PS: I'm still buying A1200... but prices are quite insane these days I guess I might just gave up on buying it.

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