18 January 2004, 09:17 | #1 |
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Amiga Lightgun replacement?
I want to look into those few Amiga lightgun games in existance (forgot the name of the lightgun, whatever), but I haven't seen a single Amiga lightgun for sale on ebay or any other place, ever.
So I was wondering how that thing works, because I'd like to know if I could somehow modify a Megadrive Menace lightgun for use on the Amiga. It would totally rock!! Thanks in advance for any info. |
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I remember as a kid wondering how that lightgun with the NES actually worked and knew it must have had something to do with the flashing screen.
Found out in a mag years ago that: Quote:
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18 January 2004, 21:06 | #3 |
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I think they do!
Anyway, does anybody have a clue if I can modify a Menacer to use for the Amiga? |
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Why would you need to modify the Menacer? The Mega Drive uses the same joystick standard as the Amiga, so there's really no reason why the gun shouldn't work out of the box. Alternatively, look into getting a Spectrum or Master System lightgun. There's no reason why these wouldn't work either.
Some ebay links: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=3642 - MD lightgun http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=50223 - Spectrum lightgun http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=4303 - Master System lightgun http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=36617 - Another Master System lightgun. |
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The reason is that they probably ARE different. The Genesis joystick port has a +5V in the place where POTX resides in the Amiga, therefore there are possible problems with this. Since I don't have an Amiga phazer pinout nor a Menacer pinout, I don't know fi it should work straight out of the box or not.
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Five minutes of Googling produces this:
http://www.epanorama.net/documents/j.../lightgun.html ----- Light guns are floating around from old video games. The best know light gun might be the Sega light gun. The light gun has a special connector, which is not suitable for any other than Sega game systems. Fortunately the electronics in the light guns are quite generic, so conversion is usually possible just by changing the connector. One method for converting Sega light gun connectors was presented in article "First look: Inside the XE Game System: Hardware surprises revealed!" in Antic Magazine, August 1988, Vol. 7, num. 4. Using the same ideas and correct pinout configuration it is possible to convert Sega light gun to Commodore Amiga computer. To modify the Sega gun for the Atari, you'll have to cut off the incompatible connector. The wires must be stripped back and soldered into an Atari joystick connector as follows: SEGA GUN ATARI JOYSTICK PORT Blue wire Pin 1 stick FWD Gray wire Pin 6 trigger Green wire Pin 7 +5 volts Black wire Pin 8 Ground Once it's all hooked up, you'll notice that gun fires when you release the trigger, which is annoying. The Sega trigger wiring is the opposite of what the Atari light gun uses. To rewire the trigger switch, remove the five screws (one is under the Sega logo on the side). Find the trigger micro-switch with three connections. Wire to the normally closed contacts instead of normally open. ----- Not sure if that's refering to MD or MS lightguns. I imagine it's MS guns, as the Menacer is an infra-red jobbie. It's also worth noting that the same page indicates that the Spectrum gun uses a different system to detect "collisions", so that probably won't work with the Amiga. EDIT: Looks like the above was stolen from this page: http://www.gamesdomain.com/faqdir/at..._5200_7800.txt The lightgun in question *is* the Master System gun. ANOTHER EDIT: This zip contains a few more re-wiring ideas, targeted at the C64 this time: http://www.64hdd.com/download/lightgun.zip FINAL EDIT: According to this page, "The Justifier was not compatible with Menacer software": http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/faqs/megadfaq.shtml Konami's "Justifier" is the gun in the first eBay link I posted. This raises intersting questions: Does the Menacer use the Master System lightgun system, or something similar to the Spectrum system? Does the Justifier use the other system, or does it just have different pinouts? Why isn't this information available on the net (people have written Menacer-compatible MD emulators, after all)? So, in answer to your original question: I have no idea. I'll go now. Last edited by ant512; 19 January 2004 at 00:13. |
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Thanks for that, looks like I was an arse for not finding anything by myself. I'll have a look at this and will try to dig deeper to find info about the Menacer.
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