Individual Computers Announces Clone-A Project

[FOL]

Originally Posted by Methanoid

#@Part of my subscription review,prune and revival process@#

3 years later and not a lot happened. I know Jens has brought us stuff like Indvision but what about Clone-A - thats what we wanted? Has he spoken about it in recent months (years) at all? I haven't seen anything....

Jens is on here from time to time, you could ask him.

[Schoenfeld]

Originally Posted by Methanoid

I haven't seen anything....

That's because I don't talk about the project at all. There are other FPGA computers out there, and each of them lacks the one idea that I have put into Clone-A. The idea is simple, but very effective. Simple enough to be copied just from hearing it, but complicated enough to require lots of man-years to implement it properly.

Just this one thing: Clone-A is not dead.

Jens

[Methanoid]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

Just this one thing: Clone-A is not dead.

Jens

That's great news... and worth this thread being revived on its own!!

[Photon]

I'd like to see incremental replacements of 68000, then custom chips, a new case, a new keyboard and finally a motherboard replacement. Then it wouldn't have to be "all perfect at once or bust".

[moijk]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

Just this one thing: Clone-A is not dead.

+1, Like, AOL

[gunni]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

The idea is simple, but very effective. Simple enough to be copied just from hearing it, but complicated enough to require lots of man-years to implement it properly.

let the guessing begin!!!

great to hear Clone A is still in the works

[spoUP]

Finally!!! A confirmation that my favourite amiga project ain't dead!!!
Jens can you tell us anything else about it?

[NovaCoder]

I think it will be very interesting which way Jens goes with this.

The FPGA Arcade is very similar to the original Clone-A idea (along with the Chameleon 64).

I'd personally love to see a drop-in replacement MB but I doubt it would profitable for Jens. I guess some kind of stand-alone machine running 68k AROS would be of some interest but unless it's packaged to in a case that looks like a mini A500/A1200 and marketed as such it still probably wouldn't make that much money.

[kriz]

Very cool !!!

[Lord Aga]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

That's because I don't talk about the project at all. There are other FPGA computers out there, and each of them lacks the one idea that I have put into Clone-A. The idea is simple, but very effective. Simple enough to be copied just from hearing it, but complicated enough to require lots of man-years to implement it properly.

Just this one thing: Clone-A is not dead.

Jens

Woohoo ! Go Jens

[Paul_s]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

complicated enough to require lots of man-years to implement it properly.

understanding women?

[ptyerman]

Originally Posted by Paul_s

understanding women?

Haha! You got that right.

[kamelito]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

That's because I don't talk about the project at all. There are other FPGA computers out there, and each of them lacks the one idea that I have put into Clone-A. The idea is simple, but very effective. Simple enough to be copied just from hearing it, but complicated enough to require lots of man-years to implement it properly.

Just this one thing: Clone-A is not dead.

Jens

My thought, HW that you plug on a real Amiga (or any digital computer chip?), you do this chip by chip , it analazye the chips and output Verilog or VHDL code. You through that code into a FPGA and it run like the original. In a word a cloning device hence the name.

Kamel

[Jack Burton]

Great news, thanks !

[Akiko]

Originally Posted by alexh

Probably not. The fact there was no AGA upgrade for A3000 points to this.

Depends if AGA chips rely on 32-bit data I/O.

I've maybe imagined it, but wasn't there a prototype 3000 AGA upgrade demoed in the 90's by Phase5 or some other company?

[Schoenfeld]

You mean the "AGA Go" kit by DCE. That was essentially an A1200, mounted on a CPU card that goes into an A500. More expensive than a new mainboard, therefore never mass-produced.

The only connection between A3000 and AGA is a prototype mainboard that Commodore made during the development of the AGA chips. Here's a photograph of one that I took when I visited Dale Luck in summer 2003. Note the hand-written serial number #28 ;-)

Jens

[moijk]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

The only connection between A3000 and AGA is a prototype mainboard that Commodore made during the development of the AGA chips.

Dusted, but... Beautiful! Mommy, I want one of those!

[imigger]

i would sooner see a complete clone of a amiga aga in real chip form as in clone whats already there but make it better and make it nice and small to fit into a nice cheap pc case, fpga,s suck too expensive how much would it cost to reproduce a small amiga clone but fits into pc case from china i bet they could clone it easy.

[Methanoid]

Originally Posted by imigger

i would sooner see a complete clone of a amiga aga in real chip form as in clone whats already there but make it better and make it nice and small to fit into a nice cheap pc case, fpga,s suck too expensive how much would it cost to reproduce a small amiga clone but fits into pc case from china i bet they could clone it easy.

They probably would if they thought they'd sell enough. I doubt they'd worry about IP rights

[cv643d]

One thing is for sure, there wont be Apollo emulation in the Clone-A

Looking forward to it, hope it gets released before I am 85 years old