Individual Computers - New accelerator cards for A600 & A1200

[Vairn]

Quick Question, whats the speed difference between this, and the Blizzard MkIV 030/50?
Apart from the different memory type, would there be any reason to "upgrade"?

[Schoenfeld]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

The only issue I found so far is when I use the snoop/snoopaga tooltype with whdload installed games, the machine freezes. Do I need use ACATune to modify the configuration?

If it freezes, then it's likely that the software you're running tries to use an FPU. Please check if that tooltype requires something that your system does not have: FPU is not available, and MMU is only available on the 56MHz A1200 card.

Happy new year everyone!

Jens

[Cosmos]

What is the maskset of the 68030 used in the ACA1230@56 ?

Tha last one is F19C or G40W ??

[vroom6sri]

Jens - I hope these questions aren't becoming tiresome for you. Would you be able to offer any suggestions please for my situation to see if these lock-ups can be remedied without the need for a different card?

I've got the 28mhz version for the A1200. I am on KickROM 3.0 and I believe the AmigaKit welcome screen that comes up when my A1200 boots from the new CF hard drive says 3.9 or it might be 39. It seems to be locking up at completely random points - sometimes just in Workbench less than a minute after startup, sometimes later and sometimes whilst in a game or a demo but nearly always at different points. When I loaded the A1200 up without the accelerator it seemed stable - there were no lockups but I couldn't really test games because, as was explained to me previously, the standard 2mb RAM has been eaten up by the file system and buffers for my new CF hard drive setup.

I SOOOOOO want this card to work because it really is a fantastic bit of kit which I want to say thank you for again!

[Schoenfeld]

Cosmos,

both are used, and both work fine up to 62.5MHz.

Jens

Originally Posted by vroom6sri

Jens - I hope these questions aren't becoming tiresome for you. Would you be able to offer any suggestions please for my situation to see if these lock-ups can be remedied without the need for a different card?

Please raise a support ticket with AmigaKit, they'll find out what to do. There's quite a few factors that influence the stability of the overall system, including your mainboard, power supply, grounding of your house, but also the accelerator and it's parts. You have a 2-year warranty on the accelerator, but we also need to make sure that your system actually *lets* the accelerator run stable.

This might take some time, but I can assure you that AmigaKit's technician Chris (aka FOL in this forum) has all the required knowledge and skills to find and fix the fault.

Jens

[vroom6sri]

Spot on. Thanks, Jens.

I'm a new customer of AmigaKit but I am already very confident in their service and ability so will wait it out.

[Cosmos]

Ok, thanks !

And the last one is ??

F19C = 100 um ?
G40W = 80 um ?

[duga]

Originally Posted by Vairn

Quick Question, whats the speed difference between this, and the Blizzard MkIV 030/50?
Apart from the different memory type, would there be any reason to "upgrade"?

Don't bother with a ACA1230/28 if you have a MkIV 030/50 (and at least 16 MB RAM) that works perfectly.

[FOL]

Originally Posted by d0pefish

@FOL:
My A600's ACATune line reads:

ACATune -maprom * -chipcache on -z2cache on -fastchip on -fastz2 on -cache on -burst on >NIL:

Got it working now, .
Need to check some more, now I want to test 1MB custom rom loading, .

[d0pefish]

Originally Posted by FOL

Got it working now, .
Need to check some more, now I want to test 1MB custom rom loading, .

Nice one FOL

So far, I've found that softkicking is also very, very fast on this board, and doesn't add much to boot time!

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

If it freezes, then it's likely that the software you're running tries to use an FPU. Please check if that tooltype requires something that your system does not have: FPU is not available, and MMU is only available on the 56MHz A1200 card.

Happy new year everyone!

Jens

I don't think that WHDLoad uses the FPU and I know the game I was testing doesn't.

I just tried the following command

acatune -maprom * >NIL:

and it said that it was copied successfully, but the computer froze. On reboot nothing happens. I have to cycle the power to get it to boot again. I have 3.1 roms and the jumper is open.

[FOL]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

I don't think that WHDLoad uses the FPU and I know the game I was testing doesn't.

I just tried the following command

acatune -maprom * >NIL:

and it said that it was copied successfully, but the computer froze. On reboot nothing happens. I have to cycle the power to get it to boot again. I have 3.1 roms and the jumper is open.

You say it says "copied successfully", but adding >NIL: will hide all messages from acatune.

Try without >NIL:, so you can see the error message if any.

[amigarobbo]

When you say 'nothing' happens? What do you mean? Purple insert disk screen? Black screen? grey screen? If you reboot with the mouse buttons down what happens? Can you boot from a floppy?

[FOL]

Originally Posted by amigarobbo

When you say 'nothing' happens? What do you mean? Purple insert disk screen? Black screen? grey screen? If you reboot with the mouse buttons down what happens? Can you boot from a floppy?

My guess is blank screen.
Im also guessing that ACATune does'nt like his roms.


This is a general comment, not aimed at anyone.

As with anything, its a process of elimination.
Asking random questions and getting random answers on a forum is not the way to fault find.
It makes fault finding a nightmare, especially in a massive thread like this.
You need to contact your reseller, so they can help.

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by FOL

You say it says "copied successfully", but adding >NIL: will hide all messages from acatune.

Try without >NIL:, so you can see the error message if any.

I tried it both ways, thats how I say the message that is was copied.

[FOL]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

I tried it both ways, thats how I say the message that is was copied.

So what happens, if you dont use maprom at all, does it run fine and not freeze / crash?

EDIT:- I can see your issue posted a few posts back.
Not sure how copying the rom to ram would help.

What happens if you run something like say "SYSInfo"
Does it freeze?

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by amigarobbo

When you say 'nothing' happens? What do you mean? Purple insert disk screen? Black screen? grey screen? If you reboot with the mouse buttons down what happens? Can you boot from a floppy?

The screen is grey and no I cannot boot from floppy.

Originally Posted by FOL

So what happens, if you dont use maprom at all, does it run fine and not freeze / crash?

It works fine without the maprom, but when I try to use the mmu with WHDLoad it freezes, which is why I purchased this card.

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The message I get when using maprom is:
Kickstart memory: $bf7cc20
Copying 512kb Kickstart... done!

[FOL]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

The screen is grey and no I cannot boot from floppy.



It works fine without the maprom, but when I try to use the mmu with WHDLoad it freezes, which is why I purchased this card.

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The message I get when using maprom is:
Kickstart memory: $bf7cc20
Copying 512kb Kickstart... done!

OK, have you ever had this function working on another card?

EDIT:-You have enabled MMU in WHDload? "On the 68030 the default mode is disable MMU"
You dont need to maprom, as I said, dont know why your mapping rom.

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by FOL

OK, have you ever had this function working on another card?

I never had another card with an mmu. I will try it in my other 1200 later today and see if it works with it. I only have kickstart 3.0 in that one.

Edit: If i set the mmu tooltype for any whdload game the machine freezes.

[FOL]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

I never had another card with an mmu. I will try it in my other 1200 later today and see if it works with it. I only have kickstart 3.0 in that one.

Re-read my last reply. I edited it.