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Old 15 September 2017, 18:05   #1
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Ghost battle original floppy

yet you can't have this original game in 1 floppy
even kyroflux users can't write in a floppy this game neither because there is no ipf file of this game,
there is only an extended adf in eab ftp

I want this game in 1 floppy
anyone managed to write back such extended adf to a floppy in a real amiga?

suggestions about how to make 1 floppy disk of this game?
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Old 15 September 2017, 19:00   #2
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I dumped this disk for Softpres using an Amiga in 1999/2000. So somewhere there is a RAW flux dump of this disk.

I got a reply back saying something like it wasn't written using a trace machine and so wouldn't be turned into an IPF.

I don't have a Kryoflux or a Supercard Pro or I would do another dump.

My Amiga's are in storage. The chances of me making another dump without one are slim but not completely zero.
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Old 15 September 2017, 19:05   #3
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Isn't Kryoflux able to write back extended ADFs ?

What kind of files it writes back, only IPFs ?
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Old 15 September 2017, 19:24   #4
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Isn't Kryoflux able to write back extended ADFs ?

What kind of files it writes back, only IPFs ?
I don't have one but it seems also it can write dms, and normal adf files but not external adfs
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This game can be written back to disk. I have made a powercopy version of the original disk.
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Old 15 September 2017, 19:29   #6
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I dumped this disk for Softpres using an Amiga in 1999/2000. So somewhere there is a RAW flux dump of this disk.

I got a reply back saying something like it wasn't written using a trace machine and so wouldn't be turned into an IPF.

I don't have a Kryoflux or a Supercard Pro or I would do another dump.

My Amiga's are in storage. The chances of me making another dump without one are slim but not completely zero.

What could happen if you create a new image?
it could be written in some way on 1 diskette?
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Old 15 September 2017, 19:31   #7
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This game can be written back to disk. I have made a powercopy version of the original disk.
I tried this game using the normal powercopy method and not worked here
which special settings you used?
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Old 15 September 2017, 22:08   #8
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I tried this game using the normal powercopy method and not worked here
which special settings you used?
this game use tracks a bit long, but nothing nasty enough to stop anyone to write it back on disk.
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Old 16 September 2017, 18:23   #9
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this game use tracks a bit long, but nothing nasty enough to stop anyone to write it back on disk.
ah I imagined the trick you used , the long track winuae config
it worked fine now

btw,

what about the games adams family and stormlord ?

I can't with them, do you know how to build those?
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Old 16 September 2017, 19:29   #10
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Adams Family uses Copylock and I think Stormlord uses hidden sectors, not sure if PowerCopy can make a working image without the hardware? I know my attempts using WinUAE and PowerCopy never worked
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nope. Ghostbattle can be written back from the extended ADF i made with powercopy.
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Adams Family uses Copylock and I think Stormlord uses hidden sectors, not sure if PowerCopy can make a working image without the hardware? I know my attempts using WinUAE and PowerCopy never worked
copylock = disk to disk only. no disk image to disk works for copylock titles.
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Old 16 September 2017, 19:53   #13
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Does it still need the hardware or not on a real Amiga? Does it also do the hidden sector protection as a Disk to Disk copy without hardware?
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Old 16 September 2017, 19:59   #14
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Addams Family You can use lockpick first to disable the copylock check then Wright back to disk with powercopy.
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Old 16 September 2017, 20:00   #15
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I know, we're trying to make working copies of still protected disks though!
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Old 16 September 2017, 20:02   #16
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The disk probably still has some other protection also, but Lockpick will remove the Copylock check its as close to writing Back the ipf on real Amiga as your going to get.
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Old 16 September 2017, 20:04   #17
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Addams Family You can use lockpick first to disable the copylock check then Wright back to disk with powercopy.
what is lockpick ?
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Its a copier/cracker patcher what ever you want to call it that will copy Addams Family original but patch it so the copylock is never checked, all other protection on the disk will be the same as the original.



WinUae > IPF > Lockpick > Powercopy < real amiga

If game only has copylock and Dos tracks you can probably create an ADF and no need for PowerCopy but some games have MFM and copylock or whatever So use both lockpick and powercopy.

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Old 16 September 2017, 20:12   #19
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Hi Mrz,

take icon.library and you will get your Ghost Battle for free !

But don't add the tooltype "NoGhost" to your icons, then the battle is over.
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copylock = disk to disk only. no disk image to disk works for copylock titles.
Disk images to disk work fine with SuperCard Pro and any type of flux data (copy protected or not).
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