Overclocking Apollo 4060 thread

Chain · 28 January 2009, 20:59

http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/temp/apollo4060/apollo_1.jpg
http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/temp/apollo4060/apollo_2.jpg
http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/temp/apollo4060/apollo_3.jpg

i can get it to 60mhz, but nothing more.
tried several processors - it accepts only full RC models, its something to do with ROM/EPROM?
All tested processors runs in cyberstorm MKII on 66MHZ fine (and one EC at 75mhz, but only without memory)

tested with one 32mb simm, rated at 50ns (works fine in 1240/60 card)

There is a lot of jumpers from backside, but they are not mentioned in manual. Is there any trick?

CLKEN with GND and CLK option, BUSCLK with BCK and PCK option
Clock enable, but why GND?
second one is for ram speed? BUSCLOCK/PROCESSOR CLOCK?

any suggestions anout those jumpers, ROM updating etc are welcome.

pics are for Zetr0, im sure he newer saw this type of pga socket

(and this is not hacked, it was sold with this handmade socket)

Dimlow · 28 January 2009, 21:24

First thing i would do is move that CLKEN jumper on the back, from GND to CLK. You would then need to set the 060/040 jumper to 040. This is what i do on the Apollo 1260's. It halves the memory speed, and allows the processor to run faster. I have no idea what the BUSCLK is.

Chain · 29 January 2009, 06:35

Thanks!
Will try it asap.

Zetr0 · 29 January 2009, 14:16

Now thats a hacked socket 3 with some extra socket strips

NIIIICE

Chain · 29 January 2009, 14:28

im sore this socket isnt factory made, but sure it was here from scratch. maybe its possible to made own socket like this.

Zetr0 · 29 January 2009, 15:14

the socket is a filed down socket 3, with the additional socket strips placed in

pretty nippy idea actually, however this wouldn't be a stock factory fitted this would be after sales / 3rd party hackery

is it possible that this board started out life as an 040 ?

Slayer · 29 January 2009, 19:53

Quote:

Chain said: any suggestions anout those jumpers, ROM updating etc are welcome.

Got a bookmark on the cpu at home that has an entire website dedicated to overclocking the Apollo Boards. If you haven't seen it I'll check back later on today and look it up and paste it here for you.

I have an Apollo 4060 also, not in any A4000 currently though, and, I did manage to get it fully populated with a simm combo that worked!

also, I have no desire to ever overclock anything so it is 50mhz and that's ok for me

Zetr0 · 29 January 2009, 20:00

@Slayer

long time no see, I would appreciate that linkie too please

Slayer · 29 January 2009, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@Slayer

long time no see, I would appreciate that linkie too please

Nodnod, been some time. Took that silly step recently from logging in from the work machine so been looking around eab again for the last week.

What's even worse, I'm starting to post

but onto the reason for the reply... you're in luck Zetr0 since the link will be pasted in this thread anyway... I haven't looked at the site for quite sometime so I certainly hope it isn't a site that has gone bye bye due to the passing of time...

solaris104 · 30 January 2009, 06:47

Try read this link, Apollo 4060/100MHz :-)
http://www.webalice.it/gratteri/apollooverclock.html

Slayer · 30 January 2009, 07:47

Here we are still alive and kicking

http://www.canit.se/~glenn/apollo.html

Zetr0 · 30 January 2009, 08:52

@slayer / solaris

Oh boy is Dimsy gonna love these!!!!

cheers guys

Dimlow · 30 January 2009, 12:55

what am i gonna love? i dont have a 4000 machine to test them so i wont be getting involved with them. unless somone wants to donate!

seems these links only say what i said in my first post here!

Zetr0 · 30 January 2009, 13:01

I believe that this also applies to the A1240/60 Apollo's too

http://www.webalice.it/gratteri/apollooverclock.html

Zetr0 · 30 January 2009, 13:33

Heres the simularity of what I noticed on r0jaws A1240 i am modifying for him

any use to you ?

Dimlow · 30 January 2009, 13:35

err yea! see my first post here!
too many late nights Zetr0?

Zetr0 · 30 January 2009, 13:56

LOL... i need to stop smoking crack in the daytime!

Slayer · 31 January 2009, 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimlow

seems these links only say what i said in my first post here!

It is true what you said or tried to explain in your earlier post is also in the page I reference, the thing is though, sometimes if the information isn't presented clear enough it isn't much use anyway, I'm not saying you're hard to understand I just think you're suffering from dellusions of Grandurer (sp)

The page I listed has other considerations too...

I wish I could give you one of my 9 A4000s but then I'd only have 8 machines and that would suck

My Apollo 4060 with 128megs is sitting in a drawer beside a 1260 with 128 megs (won't even mention my other 3 060 boards)... now my PPC233mhz with 128megs has been replaced with my SAM 667mhz 512megs machine... and you think you have problems

Everyone Trust me, a SAM is worth getting I can't even begin to convey the pleasure it is to use

Dimlow · 31 January 2009, 03:13

Oh My!

alexh · 31 January 2009, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

Everyone Trust me, a SAM is worth getting I can't even begin to convey the pleasure it is to use

The cheap P45, E8400 core 2 duo you could have bought for the same price is even better.

28 January 2009, 20:59	#1
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	Overclocking Apollo 4060 thread http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/temp/apollo4060/apollo_1.jpg http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/temp/apollo4060/apollo_2.jpg http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/temp/apollo4060/apollo_3.jpg i can get it to 60mhz, but nothing more. tried several processors - it accepts only full RC models, its something to do with ROM/EPROM? All tested processors runs in cyberstorm MKII on 66MHZ fine (and one EC at 75mhz, but only without memory) tested with one 32mb simm, rated at 50ns (works fine in 1240/60 card) There is a lot of jumpers from backside, but they are not mentioned in manual. Is there any trick? CLKEN with GND and CLK option, BUSCLK with BCK and PCK option Clock enable, but why GND? second one is for ram speed? BUSCLOCK/PROCESSOR CLOCK? any suggestions anout those jumpers, ROM updating etc are welcome. pics are for Zetr0, im sure he newer saw this type of pga socket (and this is not hacked, it was sold with this handmade socket) Last edited by Chain; 28 January 2009 at 21:14.

28 January 2009, 21:24	#2
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	First thing i would do is move that CLKEN jumper on the back, from GND to CLK. You would then need to set the 060/040 jumper to 040. This is what i do on the Apollo 1260's. It halves the memory speed, and allows the processor to run faster. I have no idea what the BUSCLK is. Last edited by Dimlow; 31 January 2009 at 03:19. Reason: Grammar and spelling Corrected, Oh i did get up Slayers Nose

29 January 2009, 14:16	#4
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Now thats a hacked socket 3 with some extra socket strips NIIIICE Attached Thumbnails

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29 January 2009, 06:35	#3
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	Thanks! Will try it asap.

29 January 2009, 14:28	#5
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	im sore this socket isnt factory made, but sure it was here from scratch. maybe its possible to made own socket like this.

29 January 2009, 15:14	#6
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	the socket is a filed down socket 3, with the additional socket strips placed in pretty nippy idea actually, however this wouldn't be a stock factory fitted this would be after sales / 3rd party hackery is it possible that this board started out life as an 040 ?

29 January 2009, 20:00	#8
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Slayer long time no see, I would appreciate that linkie too please

30 January 2009, 06:47	#10
solaris104 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Czechia Posts: 98	Try read this link, Apollo 4060/100MHz :-) http://www.webalice.it/gratteri/apollooverclock.html

30 January 2009, 07:47	#11
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	Here we are still alive and kicking http://www.canit.se/~glenn/apollo.html

30 January 2009, 08:52	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@slayer / solaris Oh boy is Dimsy gonna love these!!!! cheers guys

30 January 2009, 12:55	#13
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	what am i gonna love? i dont have a 4000 machine to test them so i wont be getting involved with them. unless somone wants to donate! seems these links only say what i said in my first post here!

30 January 2009, 13:01	#14
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I believe that this also applies to the A1240/60 Apollo's too http://www.webalice.it/gratteri/apollooverclock.html

30 January 2009, 13:33	#15
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Heres the simularity of what I noticed on r0jaws A1240 i am modifying for him any use to you ?

30 January 2009, 13:35	#16
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	err yea! see my first post here! too many late nights Zetr0?

30 January 2009, 13:56	#17
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	LOL... i need to stop smoking crack in the daytime!

31 January 2009, 03:13	#19
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	Oh My!

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