Atari ST versus Amiga in pictures

Retro-Nerd · 26 December 2007, 06:06

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It's an interesting picture comparison. In some cases you can't see it clearly that the ST has less colors, other games (e.g. Giana Sisters) shows the superiority of the Amiga.

@Paul_s:

Another Hülsbeck song that sounds like Tangerine Dream, for free!!

http://www.artistserver.com/huelsbeck

DamienD · 26 December 2007, 13:26

Cool comparison video Retro

oneshotdead · 28 December 2007, 07:15

Why semi-derail this thread with such faggotry as that?

Poor ST, I think reduced colour palette isn't so bad (as is shown in Retro-Nerd's link), not compared to choppy scrolling and bleeping, blurping sound.

More important is how graphician uses colours, not so much how many colours he has to work with (obviously).

I like artistry that creates illusions of more colours, more detail etc.

Pyromania · 28 December 2007, 08:17

Thanx for the cool link.

Paul_s · 28 December 2007, 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

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It's an interesting picture comparison. In some cases you can't see it clearly that the ST has less colors, other games (e.g. Giana Sisters) shows the superiority of the Amiga.

@Paul_s:

Another Hülsbeck song that sounds like Tangerine Dream, for free!!

http://www.artistserver.com/huelsbeck

excellent. That huelsbeck song is really nice

paranoid · 28 December 2007, 19:47

Pretty cool. I had no idea the ST's graphics were that bad.

I mean I knew, clearly, the Amiga's HAM mode was tits (and extra half-brite cool, too) but I guess I just assumed the ST had something better than that 16 colors with some hacks.

And, of course, the best hack was SHAM.. Hi-res, 4k colors.. Man! That showed some great pics. I mean... Pictures of parrots. And hot air balloons. Or something.

MickJT · 28 December 2007, 19:58

That dude looks like Kevin Clash, guy that does Elmo. Though, it's not.

laffer · 30 December 2007, 08:34

Cool video! Someone should make a PC/DOS vs Amiga comparison video of old games, that would be great

Dizzy · 30 December 2007, 10:18

or a Amiga Vs Megadrive

Stefan Lindberg · 31 December 2007, 23:50

The titlescreen of Robocop 2 looks much better on Atari ST, the Amiga pic looks like it's directly from the digitizer without any finetuning on it while the ST pic has been artisticly enhanced... but of course it has less colours wich i guess the point was with the comparison.

dlfrsilver · 01 January 2008, 08:14

of course it's touched up..... an image in 4096 colors reduced to 16 with
no retouching no thanks !

woody.cool · 01 January 2008, 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

or a Amiga Vs Megadrive

I still reckon the Amiga would win.

s2325 · 03 January 2008, 11:33

[ Show youtube player ] really good version of Fire & Ice

manicx · 07 January 2008, 10:41

Respect to Thalion for WOD!

Shoonay · 07 January 2008, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

[ Show youtube player ] really good version of Fire & Ice

Dunno about the Amy's version, cause I've never played it, but is this game so... slow? Looks like the character controls are seriously lacking smooth responsivness, especially well seen at 1:10 when he escapes the fish or the stupid ways the player dies.

s2325 · 12 January 2008, 18:05

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laffer · 12 January 2008, 18:23

Hehe, seen that one. The music is.. different

It's nowhere near as good as the Amiga music in my opinion but I still kinda like it

Retro-Nerd · 12 January 2008, 18:29

This awful ST music forces me to turn off the volume every time. Looks like only Thalion was able to do some nearly smooth scrolling ST games (try Wings of Death, Warp or Ghostbattle) with a decent sound (Hippel).

laffer · 12 January 2008, 19:08

Pretty much the only old ehrm.. "sound system" I don't like is the PC speaker.. but even that I like in a few games (old Sierra games for instance but only because of nostalgia

).

Ironclaw · 12 January 2008, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by laffer

Pretty much the only old ehrm.. "sound system" I don't like is the PC speaker.. but even that I like in a few games (old Sierra games for instance but only because of nostalgia

).

Same for me.

26 December 2007, 06:06	#1
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Atari ST versus Amiga in pictures [ Show youtube player ] It's an interesting picture comparison. In some cases you can't see it clearly that the ST has less colors, other games (e.g. Giana Sisters) shows the superiority of the Amiga. @Paul_s: Another Hülsbeck song that sounds like Tangerine Dream, for free!! http://www.artistserver.com/huelsbeck Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 26 December 2007 at 06:39.

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Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	This awful ST music forces me to turn off the volume every time. Looks like only Thalion was able to do some nearly smooth scrolling ST games (try Wings of Death, Warp or Ghostbattle) with a decent sound (Hippel). Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 12 January 2008 at 18:39.

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26 December 2007, 13:26	#2
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Cool comparison video Retro

28 December 2007, 07:15	#3
oneshotdead Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: asteroid belt Posts: 273	Why semi-derail this thread with such faggotry as that? Poor ST, I think reduced colour palette isn't so bad (as is shown in Retro-Nerd's link), not compared to choppy scrolling and bleeping, blurping sound. More important is how graphician uses colours, not so much how many colours he has to work with (obviously). I like artistry that creates illusions of more colours, more detail etc.

28 December 2007, 08:17	#4
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	Thanx for the cool link.

28 December 2007, 19:47	#6
paranoid Phone Zen Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Banned Age: 52 Posts: 234	Pretty cool. I had no idea the ST's graphics were that bad. I mean I knew, clearly, the Amiga's HAM mode was tits (and extra half-brite cool, too) but I guess I just assumed the ST had something better than that 16 colors with some hacks. And, of course, the best hack was SHAM.. Hi-res, 4k colors.. Man! That showed some great pics. I mean... Pictures of parrots. And hot air balloons. Or something.

28 December 2007, 19:58	#7
MickJT Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 189	That dude looks like Kevin Clash, guy that does Elmo. Though, it's not.

30 December 2007, 08:34	#8
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 1,335	Cool video! Someone should make a PC/DOS vs Amiga comparison video of old games, that would be great

30 December 2007, 10:18	#9
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	or a Amiga Vs Megadrive

31 December 2007, 23:50	#10
Stefan Lindberg Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 270	The titlescreen of Robocop 2 looks much better on Atari ST, the Amiga pic looks like it's directly from the digitizer without any finetuning on it while the ST pic has been artisticly enhanced... but of course it has less colours wich i guess the point was with the comparison.

01 January 2008, 08:14	#11
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	of course it's touched up..... an image in 4096 colors reduced to 16 with no retouching no thanks !

03 January 2008, 11:33	#13
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	[ Show youtube player ] really good version of Fire & Ice

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manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	Respect to Thalion for WOD!

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s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	[ Show youtube player ]

12 January 2008, 18:23	#17
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 1,335	Hehe, seen that one. The music is.. different It's nowhere near as good as the Amiga music in my opinion but I still kinda like it

12 January 2008, 19:08	#19
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 1,335	Pretty much the only old ehrm.. "sound system" I don't like is the PC speaker.. but even that I like in a few games (old Sierra games for instance but only because of nostalgia ).

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