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28 January 2002, 09:14

How to install Workbench 3.1 in WinUAE?

jmmijo · 28 January 2002, 09:33

Have you created a Hard Drive File yet?

Use the Hard Drive tab and click on the Add Hardfile button. Create an appropriate size like 1GB or 512MB depending on what your needs are and of course how much free hard drive space you have on your PC's hard drive. Remember this file will take up whatever size you setup in this section.

After creating the hardfile you should use the F12 key to mount the Install disk of OS 3.1 and boot up like a floppy. Now you shoul be able to format this hardfile using the FFS and any other settings you wish.

jmmijo · 28 January 2002, 11:14

Quote:

Originally posted by s4murai
If a manual installation is too complicated for you, you can use Amiga In A Box, which will help you install a HD.

http://aiab.emuunlim.com

Yeah, I havn't tried it out yet, but this is supposed to be the easiest way to get an emu Amiga running. Perhaps I like a challenge and love to play with the settings

Drake1009 · 28 January 2002, 11:19

I thought you needed to boot off the WB disk and then insert the install disk when you were ready to install (After formatting the hardfile)

Paul · 28 January 2002, 11:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake1009
I thought you needed to boot off the WB disk and then insert the install disk when you were ready to install (After formatting the hardfile)

err....No

You must boot from the install disk 1st, then you install.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1079

In AIAB you exstract the files to the correct dir, the run winuae and insert the WB3.1 adf when prompted with F12 key.

Drake1009 · 28 January 2002, 12:05

Well I've always installed by booting from the WB disk, using the CLI to format the harddisk, then inserting the Install disk and just running the installer from there. Works fine for me.

28 January 2002, 12:26

He doesn't need AIAB or a hardfile!

Just click "Add directory" in the hard drives tab and add an empty directory as your boot drive. Insert Workbench 3.1 install disk in DF0: , make your confiuration and boot. You can install from that install disk. It will ask for other workbench disks like fonts and extras. If you use a hardfile you'll have limited storage space, you cannot modify the contents of your hardfile from windows (surely there are utilities for this but none are as good as windows explorer), and your partition may be lost if that single hardfile gets damaged somehow.

Alternatively. Using ADFopus or ADFView, open your workbench adf from windows and copy the contents to an empty directory and then use that directory as your boot drive.

CodyJarrett · 28 January 2002, 12:32

Although sometimes there are problems with using directories. For example, Windows doesn't support some AmigaDOS features, like having two full stops in a filename...

Twistin'Ghost · 28 January 2002, 12:39

Likewise, Windows will strip off any comments you have on files, as well.

28 January 2002, 14:21

It's either I'm missing something of files or I'm missing something else.I created Harddrive and it can not be detected,directory also.It only wants to install to disks who are full but not on a HD.Now what.

Twistin'Ghost · 28 January 2002, 15:23

After creating the directory or hardfile, you must also go to the Hard Drives tab and add the hard drive dir or file, otherwise WinUAE has no way of knowing it exists.

Djay · 28 January 2002, 15:43

i can save you the hassle and upload my Workbench HD (directory, not hardfile), thats of course if the mods don't mind

you'll still need configuration and rom, it's 1.5 meg ish in size.

mods pls let me know if you mind?

28 January 2002, 17:58

I see that you tell me to format harddrive or directory how to do that because when I start install file of Workbench I get 2 files Install and RAM disk

Paul · 28 January 2002, 18:17

As s4murai said try AIAB at http://aiab.emuunlim.com/

This site has a step by step guide.

Once you have installed this, have a look how it is set up, then you can experiment yourself!

28 January 2002, 20:19

I'll try with AIAB.I'm using WinUAE 8.8 should I try with 8.6,because I can not make harddisk with this version.

28 January 2002, 20:57

It's not wise to use versions other than 0.8.8r8 (or r9) or the latest one because these are the most common ones and you have better chance of getting help if you run into problems.

28 January 2002, 21:31

OK let's see I have 8.8 r6 i'll download r8 or r9 but problem with the version that I have is I can create harddisk in WinUAE but when I start it it's not detected,only the stuff I told you about.

RetroMan · 28 January 2002, 22:16

Now for some KISS (Keep It Short and Simple

)

download WinUAE and AIAB !
install WinUAE
unzip AIAB in the SAME dir
double click WinUAE
DON´T CHANGE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN THE WINUAE SETTINGS !!!
just click ok !
follow the instructions on screen (he asks you for WB 3.1 disk)

that´s it

29 January 2002, 07:52

Thank you but I found out what's the problem,I unchecked auto-config because when I installed WinUAE i used some WinUAE guide that says to uncheck it 'cause he gets some message about non dos disk when I saw that I simply checked the box again and everything worked.One other question how to transfer .EXE to my harddrive file?

29 January 2002, 09:56

Hmm that problem about the autoconfig was fixed in later versions as far as I know. If you insist on not using a HD directory

you can use ADFview or ADFopus to modify the contents of a HDF.

28 January 2002, 09:14	#1
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28 January 2002, 09:33	#2
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Have you created a Hard Drive File yet? Use the Hard Drive tab and click on the Add Hardfile button. Create an appropriate size like 1GB or 512MB depending on what your needs are and of course how much free hard drive space you have on your PC's hard drive. Remember this file will take up whatever size you setup in this section. After creating the hardfile you should use the F12 key to mount the Install disk of OS 3.1 and boot up like a floppy. Now you shoul be able to format this hardfile using the FFS and any other settings you wish.

28 January 2002, 11:19	#4
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	I thought you needed to boot off the WB disk and then insert the install disk when you were ready to install (After formatting the hardfile)

28 January 2002, 12:05	#6
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Well I've always installed by booting from the WB disk, using the CLI to format the harddisk, then inserting the Install disk and just running the installer from there. Works fine for me.

28 January 2002, 12:26	#7
oldpx Posts: n/a	He doesn't need AIAB or a hardfile! Just click "Add directory" in the hard drives tab and add an empty directory as your boot drive. Insert Workbench 3.1 install disk in DF0: , make your confiuration and boot. You can install from that install disk. It will ask for other workbench disks like fonts and extras. If you use a hardfile you'll have limited storage space, you cannot modify the contents of your hardfile from windows (surely there are utilities for this but none are as good as windows explorer), and your partition may be lost if that single hardfile gets damaged somehow. Alternatively. Using ADFopus or ADFView, open your workbench adf from windows and copy the contents to an empty directory and then use that directory as your boot drive.

28 January 2002, 12:32	#8
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Although sometimes there are problems with using directories. For example, Windows doesn't support some AmigaDOS features, like having two full stops in a filename...

28 January 2002, 12:39	#9
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Likewise, Windows will strip off any comments you have on files, as well.

28 January 2002, 14:21	#10
cgmiki Posts: n/a	It's either I'm missing something of files or I'm missing something else.I created Harddrive and it can not be detected,directory also.It only wants to install to disks who are full but not on a HD.Now what.

28 January 2002, 15:23	#11
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	After creating the directory or hardfile, you must also go to the Hard Drives tab and add the hard drive dir or file, otherwise WinUAE has no way of knowing it exists.

28 January 2002, 15:43	#12
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	i can save you the hassle and upload my Workbench HD (directory, not hardfile), thats of course if the mods don't mind you'll still need configuration and rom, it's 1.5 meg ish in size. mods pls let me know if you mind?

28 January 2002, 17:58	#13
cgmiki Posts: n/a	I see that you tell me to format harddrive or directory how to do that because when I start install file of Workbench I get 2 files Install and RAM disk

28 January 2002, 18:17	#14
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	As s4murai said try AIAB at http://aiab.emuunlim.com/ This site has a step by step guide. Once you have installed this, have a look how it is set up, then you can experiment yourself!

28 January 2002, 20:19	#15
cgmiki Posts: n/a	I'll try with AIAB.I'm using WinUAE 8.8 should I try with 8.6,because I can not make harddisk with this version.

28 January 2002, 20:57	#16
oldpx Posts: n/a	It's not wise to use versions other than 0.8.8r8 (or r9) or the latest one because these are the most common ones and you have better chance of getting help if you run into problems.

28 January 2002, 21:31	#17
cgmiki Posts: n/a	OK let's see I have 8.8 r6 i'll download r8 or r9 but problem with the version that I have is I can create harddisk in WinUAE but when I start it it's not detected,only the stuff I told you about.

28 January 2002, 22:16	#18
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Now for some KISS (Keep It Short and Simple ) download WinUAE and AIAB ! install WinUAE unzip AIAB in the SAME dir double click WinUAE DON´T CHANGE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN THE WINUAE SETTINGS !!! just click ok ! follow the instructions on screen (he asks you for WB 3.1 disk) that´s it

29 January 2002, 07:52	#19
cgmiki Posts: n/a	Thank you but I found out what's the problem,I unchecked auto-config because when I installed WinUAE i used some WinUAE guide that says to uncheck it 'cause he gets some message about non dos disk when I saw that I simply checked the box again and everything worked.One other question how to transfer .EXE to my harddrive file?

29 January 2002, 09:56	#20
oldpx Posts: n/a	Hmm that problem about the autoconfig was fixed in later versions as far as I know. If you insist on not using a HD directory you can use ADFview or ADFopus to modify the contents of a HDF.

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