Back into the Dungeon & Chaos Strikes Back - Remake -

[ransom1122]

Back into the Dungeon & Chaos Strikes Back - Remake -

I just stumbled across this today and was amazed that there had been a DM & CSB mod made for Legend of Grimrock.

Well worth a look for the DM fans

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil.../?id=182382075
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil.../?id=104308534

To activate and play the DLC dat files go into C:\users\yourname\Documents\Almost Human\Legend Of Grimrock\Dungeons

Launch Legend of Grimrock and select Custom Dungeons on Main menu

[Valken]

I have Legend of Grimrock and was thinking about remakes. Is there something like an EoB or DM construction kit? So we can make new dungeons and run it on classic 16 bit systems?

Even multiplayer would be awesome.

I would pay for a EoB remake with multiplayer feature and a construction kit.

[ransom1122]

http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/664

Contains Level Editor ADF, and Docs & Manuals, not sure how time consuming it is or how practical it is.

LoG has a really good Map Editor, hence why they remade DM & CSB

[Valken]

I should play with the LoG editor more. I wonder can we import the old Amiga AGA or PC 256 color graphics tiles in? Would be a great way to remake these classics.

[AmigaHope]

Originally Posted by Valken

I should play with the LoG editor more. I wonder can we import the old Amiga AGA or PC 256 color graphics tiles in? Would be a great way to remake these classics.

You could, but they wouldn't look very good. Grimrock's dungeon walls are 3D objects. Dungeon Master uses different tiles depending on the angle you're looking at (straight-on, or 90 degrees, + distance), so it all looks 3D. If you just imported the straight-on wall tiles into Grimrock it would look like you were in a flat rectangular hallway with dungeon stuff painted on the walls.

[Valken]

So we would have to render the old EOB textures onto 3D objects to look better in Grimrock? Or maybe convert the textures to voxels or just add a shader with POM or parallax to make some fake 3D like GZdoom.

EOB actually looks better to me than Grimrock due to the hand painted textures in terms of details...

[AmigaHope]

Originally Posted by Valken

So we would have to render the old EOB textures onto 3D objects to look better in Grimrock? Or maybe convert the textures to voxels or just add a shader with POM or parallax to make some fake 3D like GZdoom.

Grimrock engine doesn't use voxels, so you'd have to make the textures into 3D objects. All the drawn 3D elements would have to be converted into 3D and at that point using the original texture for the texturemaps would be counterproductive as they have fake lighting on them that would look weird when illuminated with the actual lighting engine of the game.

A better approach would be to hand-model brand new walls and objects using the original textures as cues. You could load the texture into the modeler as a visual reference to build your object on and then replace it with material textures for the finished product to look right.

[Valken]

I thinking more GZDoom look than OpenGL 3D graphics using 8 bit 256 color graphics to keep that classic feel. But I understand what you are saying.

[AmigaHope]

Originally Posted by Valken

I thinking more GZDoom look than OpenGL 3D graphics using 8 bit 256 color graphics to keep that classic feel. But I understand what you are saying.

You'd have the same problem with the Doom engine. Just importing flat textures would look butt ugly compared to the angle/distance specific tilemapping in the original games.