27 July 2015, 21:03 | #1 |
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HDD/WHDLoad on A500
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Lately I was thinking about adding a HDD (via a CF) support to my Amiga 500, and start using WHDLoad. However, while doing some internet research, several questions popped up, which weren't fully answered: I'm aware that WHDLoad requires a bit more RAM than the Amiga 500 offers (512 KB + 512 KB slow in trapdoor). I was thinking about getting the kipper2k's A508IDE fastmem board (8MB) with IDE (CF). I never used any accelerator/fastmem board before, so my question is - is that card compatible with the WHDLoad? Will the software be able to use the 8MB of fastram on the board, to run more hefty games like Monkey Island II with no problems? Or should I think about something else for the WHDLoad? I'd love to know! Cheers! |
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I always get an error trying to use WHDLoad with KS1.3. What KS are you using?
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27 July 2015, 21:32 | #3 |
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WHDLoad needs KS 2.0x as minimum.
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27 July 2015, 21:41 | #4 |
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Thanks for replies! I have the 4-in-1 KS ROM from retroami (1.3, 2.0 (37.175), 2.0 (37.350), 3.1 (40.063)), so I guess that won't be any problem.
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It was bought from retroami store a while ago, can't even remember the exact year. But yeah, back to the original question, as I'm quite curious and kipper2k awaits for my answer.
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I am wondering about something similar and thinking about an aca500 or the plus version that is due soon.
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28 July 2015, 19:26 | #8 |
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From what I heard, the ACA500 does work fine with WHDLoad, but in some cases there might be not enough RAM to run things... but I'm just a beginner in the vast world of Amiga, so I might be wrong.
Here are several photos from my Amiga (from what I researched, it's the A500+ model, with 512K of ChipRAM, Super Denise, and Fat Agnus, allowing to map more than 512K of trapdoor slow RAM?) Would that setup, along with the kipper's 8MB board, be enough for the WHDLoad to work normally, or should I add something/think of something else? Help a begginer out! |
28 July 2015, 19:57 | #9 |
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An A500+ has 1mb of chipram expandable to 2mb of chipram with an A501+ trapdoor RAM expansion
2mb chipram is not enough to run a lot of slaves. A kipper2k A508 IDE will allow you to run all the 68000 compatible slaves (that is a good few) If you want to run more slaves then youll need an 020 CPU, the next cheapest upgrade is a second hand A1200 + ACA1221 You could get an ACA500 for your A500+ (instead of kipper2k's board) and an ACA1221 but you won't have AGA and an ACA500 is probably more than an old A1200 The absolute cheapest upgrade is nothing, no RAM, no CPU, no HDD, just a Gotek Floppy emulator. You'll be able to play all 68000 Amiga ECS/OCS games (which is 99% of them) Last edited by alexh; 29 July 2015 at 12:18. |
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Thanks for the reply! Even more questions incoming:
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Try the other Gotek firmware, CortexAmiga? Mature ADF write support |
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Thanks again for the reply! Man, what a helpful bunch you are.
Wow, this is great! I thought getting a 1 MB of ChipRAM on this model would require some mods (as the avail command, as seen above, showed separate "chip" and "fast" values of 512K), I never knew A500+ could use slow RAM like that without any modifications! If I add a 1 MB trapdoor expansion, that would make 1.5 MB of ChipRAM? Quote:
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Kipper2k sells new A501+ boards (getting you the max 2mb chipRAM) pretty cheap http://kipper2k.com/a500chip.html |
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29 July 2015, 12:13 | #15 |
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Hmmm... I didn't read the post correctly you don't have an A500+ but an A500 rev8A. Which you knew.
Here is a guide to convert a rev8A into an A500+ http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=77705 Yes, as you suspected you will have to do a small amount of soldering. Last edited by alexh; 29 July 2015 at 12:19. |
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I see, no problem. The link you supplied involves soldering the chips to the Amiga's mobo. I recall reading, that you can convert the slow trapdoor RAM into the Chip RAM, and it's as easy as cutting/soldering several JPs, and bending one of the connectors on a certain chip, though I can't seem to find it anymore. Anybody knows about it? Would that be appliable to my rev8A mainboard?
The trapdoor slow RAM features an ON/OFF switch, if that helps anything. EDIT: nevermind, I found it! Earlier, I was just looking with wrong keywords. Last edited by Kurasiu; 29 July 2015 at 15:38. Reason: found the method! |
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But all is not lost. If you combine Kipper2k's post (see the high rez photo) with this post below : http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=919735&postcount=4 You get this : Code:
Original JP2: O <- Open O | <- Connected O JP7A: Open Connected | | ∨ ∨ O O---O Modified: JP2: O | <- Connected O <- Open O JP7A: Open Open | | ∨ ∨ O O O Last edited by alexh; 29 July 2015 at 15:58. |
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This is great, thank you! Followed your clues, and now I have a blazing 1 MB of ChipRAM.
There's one last thing I totally forgot to ask about - anybody used kipper2k's cards? Because this 4-in-1 Kickstart ROM does stick out quite a bit - and I'm concerned if the board will fit into the CPU socket - are the pins long enough, or will that KS ROM make a problem with inserting the board (implying I choose the kipper's board)? Here's a photo of how it looks like: Direct link: https://41.media.tumblr.com/d688531b...s2ko1_1280.png |
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It looks okay actually, but I think you can ask Kipper2k to include another riser for the CPU socket. And yes, 8MB should play all multidisk games without any problems
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